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Re: Blacks on the rampage again ...
Reply #90 - Nov 26th, 2014 at 4:59pm
 
Why don't you brainless peanuts watch this ...





Its a bit longer than your idiotic three second attention span will last but give it a try, it may elevate you from being an uniformed m0ron to someone that has at least got a grasp of the basic facts, I know I'm asking a lot, if there's one thing I've learnt from being on this board its that most people would rather float through life as uninformed ignoramus's as that requires so little intellectual effort.
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Reply #91 - Nov 26th, 2014 at 5:06pm
 
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Reply #92 - Nov 26th, 2014 at 5:10pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 1:29pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 1:27pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 12:54pm:
Whilst this statistic may well be true, it is also an issue of the justice system that there is a disparity in sentences for similar offences for different ethnic backgrounds. From the same report you quote Herbie, they mention that african-americans in earning less, are more likely to require underskilled public defenders, face implicit bias from prosecutorial discretion about which cases to try, and make up of juries.

They also face a higher likelihood of harsher sentences for broadly similar offences, lower likeli hood of substantial assistance departures as well as increasing discretion given to law enforcement personnel under the Fourth amendment.


Good post, Outrage.

... it is also an issue of the justice system that there is a disparity in sentences for similar offences for different ethnic backgrounds.

Correct.

And the deceit behind this seemingly innocent plea for fair-and-equal justice is that the courts are dealing with a black's fifth or sixth appearance before the bench, while only the first or second time for a white committing the same offence.

That's the bit the activists don't include in their Victimhood Statement because it's counter-productive to their agenda for seeing fewer blacks in jail.



Could you please provide evidence as to this statement? The studies I saw cited seemed to take those considerations into account and still found bias.



No answer yet, I see.
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Reply #93 - Nov 26th, 2014 at 5:12pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 1:29pm:
Could you please provide evidence as to this statement? The studies I saw cited seemed to take those considerations into account and still found bias.


There are miles on Google about the American legal system, and the sort of statistics about race and ethnicity that Australia abandoned several years ago as a strategy for ingratiating with our minorities with a view to election times.

To its credit, the US told the UN to take a flying leap so far as hiding these sort of statistics.

I'll see what I can dig up, Outrage, but if indeed there is a bias against blacks on the streets and in the courts ~ why would anyone be surprised?

The jails aren't full with innocent blacks.

A white fellow will know perhaps 4 or 5 or 6 of his neighbours, whereas a black fellow will know dozens of 'homies' in his neighbourhood ... and that's what perpetuates the crime culture among America's Negroes.
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Reply #94 - Nov 26th, 2014 at 6:04pm
 
What i saw on TV with the ferguson riots that racial conflict is a conduit for mindless hoodlums to break things that belong to a business or someone else, steal things that belong to a business or someone elsel, watching things burn for fun, looting for fun, ALL THIS REPRESENTS A VOICE AGAINST RACIAL INJUSTICE ???????  Grin Grin Grin

It seems it made the lefties satisfied to see this mindless carnage on TV.

and thats pretty much what the media wanted and they got it.
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Reply #95 - Nov 26th, 2014 at 6:08pm
 
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Reply #96 - Nov 26th, 2014 at 6:25pm
 
stryder wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 6:04pm:
It seems it made the lefties satisfied to see this mindless carnage on TV.




How did you draw that conclusion?

Which "lefties" have expressed their satisfaction?
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Reply #97 - Nov 26th, 2014 at 6:47pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 6:25pm:
stryder wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 6:04pm:
It seems it made the lefties satisfied to see this mindless carnage on TV. that you see in every left loving cause, they played a factor in making  julian assange popular,




How did you draw that conclusion?

Which "lefties" have expressed their satisfaction?


The 30 year olds one wearin the guy fawkes mask made famous by that movie, V FOR VENDATTA
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Reply #98 - Nov 26th, 2014 at 6:49pm
 
stryder wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 6:47pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 6:25pm:
stryder wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 6:04pm:
It seems it made the lefties satisfied to see this mindless carnage on TV.




How did you draw that conclusion?

Which "lefties" have expressed their satisfaction?


The 30 year olds one wearin the guy fawkes mask made famous by that movie, V FOR VENDATTA



What did they say?

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Reply #99 - Nov 26th, 2014 at 6:54pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 6:49pm:
stryder wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 6:47pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 6:25pm:
stryder wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 6:04pm:
It seems it made the lefties satisfied to see this mindless carnage on TV.




How did you draw that conclusion?

Which "lefties" have expressed their satisfaction?


The 30 year olds one wearin the guy fawkes mask made famous by that movie, V FOR VENDATTA



What did they say?



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The daily Kos is left wing from what i understand and they published this ????
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Reply #100 - Nov 26th, 2014 at 6:58pm
 
stryder wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 6:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 6:49pm:
stryder wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 6:47pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 6:25pm:
stryder wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 6:04pm:
It seems it made the lefties satisfied to see this mindless carnage on TV.




How did you draw that conclusion?

Which "lefties" have expressed their satisfaction?


The 30 year olds one wearin the guy fawkes mask made famous by that movie, V FOR VENDATTA



What did they say?



http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/11/20/2350AC0C00000578-2841460-image-18_1416...



One person, wearing a mask, saying nothing.

How does that in any way support your claim that "It seems it made the lefties satisfied to see this mindless carnage on TV."



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Reply #101 - Nov 26th, 2014 at 7:00pm
 
A movement without organization is little more than a ship without a rudder. Take an idea—any idea, no matter how noble or just—and let it loose upon the world in great numbers without anyone to guide it and it won't be long until that idea veers off course and devolves into a chaos that will either bury or bowdlerize it. In order to effect social change, your actions cannot be spontaneous and reckless. There must be method to your cause's madness or else it will be picked apart by both the existing power structure and the pockets of self seeking “activists” looking to exploit public suffering for personal gain. Rosa Parks did not simply step onto a bus in Montgomery, Alabama and decide that she was going to challenge Jim Crow by refusing to sit in the back. No, Rosa Parks's action was the culmination of years of planning and struggle by black advocacy groups like the Women's Political Council to desegregate the city's buses and it came 9 months after a 15-year old girl named Claudette Colvin was jailed for acting in spontaneous defiance and refusing to move to the back of the bus for a white person. Most of us only know of Rosa Parks's act of civil disobedience because Dr. King and the NAACP decided that they needed an impeccable representative for the movement—someone who was older and well-respected in the black community—and Colvin simply did not fit the bill. Parks was chosen to be face of the Montgomery Bus Boycotts because it was agreed upon by the leaders of the Civil Rights Movement that she gave them the best shot at achieving their goals.

After a few days and nights in and around Ferguson, it has become clear to me that the same sort of organization that characterized the Civil Rights Movement and Black Power movement in America or the Black Consciousness Movement in South Africa is not here. That is not to say that there aren't extraordinary people fighting day and night for permanent, transformative change in their communities—because there are—but rather that the leadership and organization of groups in Ferguson is much more fragmented. For instance, last night I was over on the campus of Harris Stowe State, the region's only Historically Black University, for a peace rally being put on by the Young Citizens Council of St. Louis when I received a text at 6:30 pm saying that there was going to be candlelight vigil for Mike Brown outside of the Ferguson Police Department in 90 minutes. This presented me a bit of a problem as the Ferguson PD was almost half an hour away from Harris Stowe and the peace rally hadn't even started yet, it would be impossible for someone to attend both events in their entirety.

Weighing my options and looking around at the sparse attendance at Harris Stowe, I decided to leave the Peace Rally early and drive over to Ferguson for the candlelight vigil. Encouragingly enough, the vigil went along pretty well. At a little after 8 o' clock, roughly 75 of us took our lit candles out into the middle of South Florissant Road and held them aloft as we tried to observe 4.5 minutes of silence, in homage to the 4.5 hours that Ferguson Police let Mike Brown's body lie in the road after he had been killed by Officer Darren Wilson. Complete silence wasn't really achieved as there were a few people on the fringes of the vigil that were conversing or, in one man's case, screaming at the top of his lungs for no reason whatsoever, but all-in-all it could be considered a success. The problems only really began happening once the vigil was over and all plans for concrete action had been exhausted.

It was at this point that the fractious nature of the Ferguson protest movement, at least on this night, made itself apparent. One group of people of people ended up leaving the area and heading over to the Canfield Green Apartment Complex where Brown was shot to hold a rally away from the prying eyes of the media, while another group began marching up and down S. Florissant, eventually posting up in front of the police station and obstructing traffic with no real rhyme or reason to their actions. A third group, of which I was a part, just sort of stood on the sidewalk in the freezing rain, looking out at the shenanigans in front of us and swapping stories while we waited for something to happen.

Daily kos
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Reply #102 - Nov 26th, 2014 at 7:01pm
 
stryder wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 6:04pm:
What i saw on TV with the ferguson riots that racial conflict is a conduit for mindless hoodlums to break things that belong to a business or someone else, steal things that belong to a business or someone elsel, watching things burn for fun, looting for fun ...


Exactly.

The shooting was an opportunity for these blacks to hold the sort of street parties they like the most.

The ones that have plenty of opportunity for recreational violence and destruction, with the added bonus of an occasional looting of electronics shops, furniture shops, and bottle shops.

All conducted with righteous outrage, of course.

They been done wrong, and hey! ~ they deserve a little compensation for their Victimhood.
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Reply #103 - Nov 26th, 2014 at 7:03pm
 
                                         Undecided

"It seems it made the lefties satisfied to see this mindless carnage on TV."
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Reply #104 - Nov 26th, 2014 at 7:07pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 26th, 2014 at 7:03pm:
                                         Undecided

"It seems it made the lefties satisfied to see this mindless carnage on TV."


Its true, it really does happen greggerypeccary, some lefties just love or crave a world crisis with the capacity to change human society where the result of human beings feeling vunerable and chaotic and somehow some new form of socialism will emerge that is different from the one that we have now and still not happy or satisfied with.
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