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Aug 11th, 2014 at 11:40pm
 
Apparent war crimes committed by US and NATO troops in Afghanistan have gone uninvestigated, leaving the families of thousands of the victims without justice, Amnesty International said in a new report.

“Thousands of Afghans have been killed or injured by US forces since the invasion, but the victims and their families have little chance of redress. The US military justice system almost always fails to hold its soldiers accountable for unlawful killings and other abuses,” said Richard Bennett, Amnesty International’s Asia Pacific Director.

“None of the cases that we looked into – involving more than 140 civilian deaths – were prosecuted by the US military. Evidence of possible war crimes and unlawful killings has seemingly been ignored.”

The 108-page report released on Monday focuses mostly on night raids and airstrikes conducted by NATO’s troops and individual US agencies like the Special Operations Forces. Amnesty investigated 10 incidents that took place between 2009 and 2013, in which Afghan civilians were killed. The human rights organization talked to some 125 witnesses, victims and family members to prepare the report. Some of them had never had the chance to give testimony before.

In two of the cases involving US and Afghan forces there is abundant and compelling evidence of war crimes, including enforced disappearances, torture, and killings of civilians, Amnesty said. Nobody was ever prosecuted for either of the incidents.
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Reply #1 - Aug 11th, 2014 at 11:44pm
 
http://www.globalresearch.ca/iraq-libya-syria-extensive-war-crimes-how-the-media...

Iraq, Libya, Syria: Extensive US-NATO War Crimes. How the Media Buries “The Evidence”

By David Edwards
Global Research, June 21, 2013

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Last month, a ComRes poll supported by Media Lens interviewed 2,021 British adults, asking:

‘How many Iraqis, both combatants and civilians, do you think have died as a consequence of the war that began in Iraq in 2003?’

An astonishing 44% of respondents estimated that less than 5,000 Iraqis had died since 2003. 59% believed that fewer than 10,000 had died. Just 2% put the toll in excess of one million, the likely correct estimate.

In October 2006, just three years into the war, the Lancet medical journal reported ‘about 655,000 Iraqis have died above the number that would be expected in a non-conflict situation, which is equivalent to about 2.5% of the population in the study area’.

In 2007, an Associated Press poll also asked the US public to estimate the Iraqi civilian death toll from the war. 52% of respondents believed that fewer than 10,000 Iraqis had died.

Noam Chomsky commented on the latest findings:

‘Pretty shocking. I’m sure you’ve seen Sut Jhally’s study of estimates of Vietnam war deaths at the elite university where he teaches. Median 100,000, about 5% of the official figure, probably 2% of the actual figure. Astonishing – unless one bears in mind that for the US at least, many people don’t even have a clue where France is. Noam’ (Email to Media Lens, June 1, 2013. See: Sut Jhally, Justin Lewis, & Michael Morgan, The Gulf War: A Study of the Media, Public Opinion, & Public Knowledge, Department of Communications, U. Mass. Amherst, 1991)

Alex Thomson, chief correspondent at Channel 4 News, has so far provided the only corporate media discussion of the poll. He perceived ‘questions for us on the media that after so much time, effort and money, the public perception of bloodshed remains stubbornly, wildly, wrong’.

In fact the poll was simply ignored by both print and broadcast media. Our search of the Lexis media database found no mention in any UK newspaper, despite the fact that ComRes polls are deemed highly credible and frequently reported in the press.

Although we gave Thomson the chance to scoop the poll, he chose to publish it on his blog viewed by a small number of people on the Channel 4 website. Findings which Thomson found ‘so staggeringly, mind-blowingly at odds with reality’ that they left him ‘speechless’ apparently did not merit a TV audience.

Les Roberts, lead author of the 2004 Lancet study and co-author of the 2006 study, also responded:

‘This March, a review of death toll estimates by Burkle and Garfield was published in the Lancet in an issue commemorating the 10th anniversary of the invasion. They reviewed 11 studies of data sources ranging from passive tallies of government and newspaper reports to careful randomized household surveys, and concluded that something in the ballpark of half a million Iraqi civilians have died. The various sources include a wide variation of current estimates, from one-hundred thousand plus to a million.’

Roberts said of the latest poll:

‘It may be that most British people do not care what results arise from the actions of their leaders and the work of their tax money. Alternatively, it also could be that the British and US Governments have actively and aggressively worked to discredit sources and confuse death toll estimates in hopes of keeping the public from unifying and galvanizing around a common narrative.’ (Email to Media Lens, June 12, 2013. You can see Roberts’ comments in full here)

Indeed, the public’s ignorance of the cost paid by the people of Iraq is no accident. Despite privately considering the 2006 Lancet study ‘close to best practice’ and ‘robust’ the British government immediately set about destroying the credibility of the findings of both the 2004 and 2006 Lancet studies. Professor Brian Rappert of the University of Exeter reported that government ‘deliberations were geared in a particular direction – towards finding grounds for rejecting the [2004] Lancet study without any evidence of countervailing efforts by government officials to produce or endorse alternative other studies or data’.

Unsurprisingly, the same political executives who had fabricated the case for war on Iraq sought to fabricate reasons for ignoring peer-reviewed science exposing the costs of their great crime. More surprising, one might think, is the long-standing media enthusiasm for these fabrications. The corporate media were happy to swallow the UK government’s alleged ‘grounds for rejecting’ the Lancet studies to the extent that a recent Guardian news piece claimed that the invasion had led to the deaths of ‘tens of thousands of Iraqis’.

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Reply #2 - Aug 12th, 2014 at 9:03am
 
Did Amnesty International mention anything in their new report about the activities of the Taliban and what they do to their own countrymen?  Undecided Huh
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Reply #3 - Oct 7th, 2015 at 6:15am
 
More war crimes and more lies, just like 9/11 and the killing of Bin Laden.

Does the truth ever come out of America?


Doctors Without Borders airstrike:

US alters story for fourth time in four days


“Any serious violation of the law of armed conflict, such as attacking a hospital that is immune from intentional attack, is a war crime. Hospitals are immune from attack during an armed conflict unless being used by one party to harm the other and then only after a warning that it will be attacked,” O’Connell said.


The US account has now shifted four times in four days. On Saturday, the US military said it did not know for certain that it had struck the hospital but that US forces were taking fire in Kunduz.

On Sunday, it said that the strike took place in the “vicinity” of the hospital and suggested it had been accidentally struck. On Monday, Campbell said that the Afghans requested the strike and said US forces in the area were not “threatened”.

On Tuesday, he clarified that US forces called in the airstrike themselves at Afghan request.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/06/doctors-without-borders-airstrike...

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Reply #4 - Oct 7th, 2015 at 3:35pm
 
There are reports of individual soldiers getting charged for breaching the Geneva Convention and similar things, but it's pretty much impossible for high level war crimes, from an entity such as NATO, and sanctioned by NATO, to occur.

For example, a soldier saw his friend get blown up by a mine so he massacres a family in the next town.

NATO leadership does not have these kind of interactions, and it's not plausible that they would give an order to bomb a hospital for the purpose of causing civilian casualties.
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Reply #5 - Oct 7th, 2015 at 3:44pm
 
What about all the civilians the Taliban have killed? No mention of that ?
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Reply #6 - Oct 7th, 2015 at 3:55pm
 
double plus good wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 3:44pm:
What about all the civilians the Taliban have killed? No mention of that ?



I'm sure it has been mentioned.

That's why the war started, isn't it? to save innocent people from the Taliban, apparently. That's America's version anyway, and they're sticking to it.
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Reply #7 - Oct 7th, 2015 at 3:59pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 3:55pm:
double plus good wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 3:44pm:
What about all the civilians the Taliban have killed? No mention of that ?



I'm sure it has been mentioned.

That's why the war started, isn't it? to save innocent people from the Taliban, apparently. That's America's version anyway, and they're sticking to it.
Personally I wouldn't bother with any muslim country and I wouldn't let them immigrate to Australia if I had my way. Afghanistan was a stupid waste of time. But if you do-gooders are going to mention war crimes in Afghanistan  please don't be so one sided.
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Reply #8 - Oct 7th, 2015 at 4:59pm
 
In War sh.t happens. It did when the Hospital was hit in error, this pales into insignificance with the Genocide that ISIS is carrying out on a daily basis in that theatre.
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Reply #9 - Oct 8th, 2015 at 4:20pm
 
double plus good wrote on Oct 7th, 2015 at 3:44pm:
What about all the civilians the Taliban have killed? No mention of that ?


Give the man a red herring.
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Reply #10 - Oct 11th, 2015 at 3:04pm
 
Would like to see a poll about how many Kuwaiti's were killed by Iraq, I wonder if people have any idea of how many there were.
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Reply #11 - Oct 12th, 2015 at 12:19am
 
The US does not have a policy of killing civilians for any reason including to subjugate the population. Neither does  NATO.

Some of their enemies do.
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Reply #12 - Oct 12th, 2015 at 12:28am
 
Perses wrote on Aug 11th, 2014 at 11:40pm:
Apparent war crimes committed by US and NATO troops...



NATO is US military imperialism flown under a different flag.
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Reply #13 - Oct 12th, 2015 at 12:30am
 
easel wrote on Oct 12th, 2015 at 12:19am:
The US does not have a policy of killing civilians for any reason including to subjugate the population. Neither does  NATO.

Some of their enemies do.


Yeah, keep telling yourself that.

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Reply #14 - Oct 12th, 2015 at 12:33am
 
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Lt. William Calley is charged with six specifications of premeditated murder in the death of 109 Vietnamese civilians at My Lai in March 1968.
http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/calley-charged-for-my-lai-massacre
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