Brian Ross wrote on Aug 16^th, 2014 at 12:53am:


So one mustn't dislike or be prejudiced against an ideology? If you dislike or are prejudiced against Nazism, you are a Niziphobe, Communism a Commiephobe.

Islamists are eleutherophobes.  You are a insighto-phobe.

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 16^th, 2014 at 7:03pm:


That is precisely what it says - prejudice against a political ideology. Islam is a political ideology.

What's wrong with being utterly unsympathetic to all its premises and teachings and all the actions committed and performed in its name? Why do I have to like the bloody thing??

I think it is detrimental to free human beings. It needs to be tempered but it resists all tempering and it is tearing itself apart and is drawing everyone else into its death throws. Islam is a force for suppression of creativity, free and open human relations, it is against equality, against the dignity of women, it is a terrible burden on its devotees and it is a threat to all who do not embrace it.

I do not see anything in Islam that is an improvement of the human condition. It is all negative.


18c me.

Soren wrote on Aug 16^th, 2014 at 10:24pm:


That’s not what we were taught at Sunday School, dear boy. We were taught we had to choose between Jesus and Hell. "Where will you spend Eternity?"

Most of us chose Jesus.

Blame Luther? Never!

We blame Islam.

Soren wrote on Aug 16^th, 2014 at 10:04pm:


*SIGH*, no that is not what it says, Soren.  It states:

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"against Islam or Muslims, especially as a political force."   The word "especially" means a special condition.   However, the normal form of Islamophobia is "dislike or prejudice against Islam or Muslims" and that is what you and so many here suffer from, Soren.

Do you really have such problems reading English?   Or is this just another symptom of your dislike or prejudice against Islam?   

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You don't but you have to tolerate it and it's adherents when they are not breaking any laws, Soren.   Intense dislike, to the point of hatred which is unreasoning is bigotry.

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Depends upon which interpretation of it's teachings we're discussing, Soren.  You treat the adherents and the entire religion as being monolithic which it is demonstrably not.   At various times and in various places, Islam and Muslims have encouraged creativity, they have seen the flowering of culture, art, science and understanding and tolerance.   You however, appear to believe that Islam and Muslims have been intolerant and uncreative throughout it's entire history and across all Muslim cultures and societies.   Just as we've seen fundamentalist Christianity turn it's back on culture/art/science, so we are seeing fundamentalist Islam doing the same thing and for the same reason - it challenges their interpretation of their faith.

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All?  Obviously you've never travelled in any Muslim countries, Soren.  You are, as I've always maintained one of the best graduates that a Madrassa has ever produced with your intolerance, your hatred and your bigotry.  You are the mirror image of the Islamic fundamentalists you rail against and your views would not be out of place in their ranks.   

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Not worth the bother.   

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 17^th, 2014 at 1:26am:


I am tolerating them, numpty. I am not doing any of the intolerant things that the sons of Allah do every day - threaten death, violence and actually carry out violence and murder.

I am simply SAYING that Islam has nothing to recommend it.  I don't like a few other ideologies. I do not have to like what you think, Brain. You can think what you want but I do not have to say  'Oh, that's noice , Brain'. I do not have to think that just because a billion people believe in something it must be therefore OK.


Insofar as a Muslim can treat his religion as a PRIVATE devotion and not a political program, he is welcome to it and will have no bad word from me. Some old timers are doing just that. It is very thin spiritual gruel but they are welcome to it in peace.
But ascendant Islam is militant, political and activists. I am totally against it.

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 15^th, 2014 at 6:11pm:

Watched "Salman Rushdie and The Satanic Verses Affair".

This was a precursor to the Islamist militarism we see today nearly 20 years after Khomeini's fatwa was lifted by the Iranian government.

I imagine that Ayatollah Khomeini was a latter day incarnation of a dark age or medieval pope... Very good reasons why religious primates must never be allowed to wield  power.

Having tamed the Vatican, the world must now be vigilant against a Caliphate... Although, admittedly, creating a Caliphate would be as inane as reconstituting the Austro-Hungarian Empire.

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 16^th, 2014 at 7:03pm:



But that is exactly what YOU are saying, spineless squishy apologist for everything unfree and oppressive.