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Reply #31 - Aug 18^th, 2014 at 2:43pm

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So are these Jewish Israeli combatants legitimate targets also?

Abbott Lies,

Why don't you travel there,

....to Lebanon, or Jordan, or Syria, or Egypt, or to Gaza ?

And 'rush the border fence' with Israel, and then try to 'take out' some of those Jewish Israeli children, you know, those children who you consider to be 'legitimate targets'.

Let us know how far you get, ....into Israel. Wink

Judah is going to destroy ISLAM.

Isaiah 17:12
Woe to the multitude of many people, which make a noise like the noise of the seas; and to the rushing of nations, that make a rushing like the rushing of mighty waters!
13 The nations shall rush like the rushing of many waters: but God shall rebuke them, and they shall flee far off, and shall be chased as the chaff of the mountains before the wind, and like a rolling thing before the whirlwind.
14 And behold at eveningtide trouble; and before the morning he is not. This is the portion of them that spoil us, and the lot of them that rob us.

Jeremiah 51:19
The portion of Jacob is not like them; for he is the former of all things: and Israel is the rod of his inheritance: the LORD of hosts is his name.
20 Thou art my battle axe and weapons of war: for with thee will I break in pieces the nations, and with thee will I destroy kingdoms;

....Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:

Exodus 4:22

Exodus 15:3
The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 21786 A cat with a view	Re: Islamic State - A 'Nazist Reich' in all but name Reply #32 - Aug 18^th, 2014 at 2:49pm Yadda wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 2:43pm: Judah is going to destroy ISLAM. ......with 'a little help' from the God of Israel. ....Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn: Exodus 4:22
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Reply #33 - Aug 18^th, 2014 at 2:53pm

Yadda wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 2:43pm:

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So are these Jewish Israeli combatants legitimate targets also?

Abbott Lies,

Why don't you travel there,

....to Lebanon, or Jordan, or Syria, or Egypt, or to Gaza ?

And 'rush the border fence' with Israel, and then try to 'take out' some of those Jewish Israeli children, you know, those children who you consider to be 'legitimate targets'.

Let us know how far you get, ....into Israel. Wink

Judah is going to destroy ISLAM.

Isaiah 17:12
Woe to the multitude of many people, which make a noise like the noise of the seas; and to the rushing of nations, that make a rushing like the rushing of mighty waters!
13 The nations shall rush like the rushing of many waters: but God shall rebuke them, and they shall flee far off, and shall be chased as the chaff of the mountains before the wind, and like a rolling thing before the whirlwind.
14 And behold at eveningtide trouble; and before the morning he is not. This is the portion of them that spoil us, and the lot of them that rob us.

Jeremiah 51:19
The portion of Jacob is not like them; for he is the former of all things: and Israel is the rod of his inheritance: the LORD of hosts is his name.
20 Thou art my battle axe and weapons of war: for with thee will I break in pieces the nations, and with thee will I destroy kingdoms;

....Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:

Exodus 4:22

Exodus 15:3
The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

who would want to go israel and live with jewish cockroaches, and thats why they jewish state shouldnt exist and should be destroyed cause as UK MP George galloway mentions " Jews are a cancer of the middle east".

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Reply #34 - Aug 18^th, 2014 at 4:42pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 11:53am:

The Nazi comparison to ISIS only works on the level of brutality. While they were both barbaric to unbelievers and dissidents, when the Nazis came to power they made Germany the leader in almost all fields. This is not to mention the rich cultural history of Germany as well. Now who are ISIS? A bunch of backward clowns who invent nothing, have no innovation, have no creative skills, have no great thinkers, have no great musicians ... they have nothing.

Nazism did not invent Germany or German culture... They fed off it like a parasite...

It did not breed a Beethoven, Goethe, Hegel, or a Kant.

German scientists were great because they were German scientists not because of anything the Nazis instilled in them. Which is the reason Heidegger spent the rest of his post-war life explaining how a great German philosopher as he was could be seduced by Nazism - expect due to an arrogant and burning ambition to succeed at the expense of his dignity, self-respect, the respect of his peers and all his closest friends.

Nazism bred crypto-religion and pseudo-science.

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Reply #35 - Aug 18^th, 2014 at 4:44pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 12:03pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 17^th, 2014 at 7:28pm:

Unimaginable cruelty and mind-boggling sadism has become as (quasi and frankly) fetishistic in the middle east as it was with the Nazi SS in concentration camps.

Islam has always contained mind boggling sadism, try reading Sirat Rasul Allah by Ibn Ishaq which is the earliest biography of Profit Mo.

Take note of the Chapter "Khaybar" where profit Mo ordered the torture of a jew so he would reveal the location of his tribes wealth,they lit a fire on his chest before chopping his head off.

I think you'll find Dark Ages and Medieval Christian Europe could match Islamic savagery blow for blow.

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Reply #36 - Aug 18^th, 2014 at 4:57pm

wally1 wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 2:53pm:

Yadda wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 2:43pm:

Quote:

So are these Jewish Israeli combatants legitimate targets also?

Abbott Lies,

Why don't you travel there,

....to Lebanon, or Jordan, or Syria, or Egypt, or to Gaza ?

And 'rush the border fence' with Israel, and then try to 'take out' some of those Jewish Israeli children, you know, those children who you consider to be 'legitimate targets'.

Let us know how far you get, ....into Israel. Wink

Judah is going to destroy ISLAM.

Isaiah 17:12
Woe to the multitude of many people, which make a noise like the noise of the seas; and to the rushing of nations, that make a rushing like the rushing of mighty waters!
13 The nations shall rush like the rushing of many waters: but God shall rebuke them, and they shall flee far off, and shall be chased as the chaff of the mountains before the wind, and like a rolling thing before the whirlwind.
14 And behold at eveningtide trouble; and before the morning he is not. This is the portion of them that spoil us, and the lot of them that rob us.

Jeremiah 51:19
The portion of Jacob is not like them; for he is the former of all things: and Israel is the rod of his inheritance: the LORD of hosts is his name.
20 Thou art my battle axe and weapons of war: for with thee will I break in pieces the nations, and with thee will I destroy kingdoms;

....Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:

Exodus 4:22

Exodus 15:3
The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

who would want to go israel and live with jewish cockroaches, and thats why they jewish state shouldnt exist and should be destroyed cause as UK MP George galloway mentions " Jews are a cancer of the middle east".

jews arent a cancer. id liken them more to chemotherapy

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Reply #37 - Aug 18^th, 2014 at 6:00pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 7:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 7:33am:

Last night on TV it showed that 1,700 Iraqi soldiers put down their
weapons & surrendered to ISIS.

They were herded like cattle & all executed.

Those soldiers underestimated the murderous zeal of ISIS militants...

Maybe they thought the mythical sense of Islamic brotherhood guided the judgement of their enemies.

ISIS are murdering barbaric animals - worse than Nazis.

They must be exterminated off the face of the planet.

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Reply #39 - Aug 18^th, 2014 at 7:37pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 6:00pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 7:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 7:33am:

Last night on TV it showed that 1,700 Iraqi soldiers put down their
weapons & surrendered to ISIS.

They were herded like cattle & all executed.

Those soldiers underestimated the murderous zeal of ISIS militants...

Maybe they thought the mythical sense of Islamic brotherhood guided the judgement of their enemies.

ISIS are murdering barbaric animals - worse than Nazis.

They must be exterminated off the face of the planet.

There are so many groups fighting in syria/iraq, many flying the black flag.

When ISIS took over mosul, they treated the people very well. Not every violent act is from ISIS.

“We all thought ISIS fighters will hurt people, but they did not do so,” said shop owner Fahad, referring to militants from the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS). “It is 100 percent safe here. The only thing we suffer from is the lack of public services.”

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Reply #40 - Aug 18^th, 2014 at 7:47pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 4:42pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 11:53am:

The Nazi comparison to ISIS only works on the level of brutality. While they were both barbaric to unbelievers and dissidents, when the Nazis came to power they made Germany the leader in almost all fields. This is not to mention the rich cultural history of Germany as well. Now who are ISIS? A bunch of backward clowns who invent nothing, have no innovation, have no creative skills, have no great thinkers, have no great musicians ... they have nothing.

Nazism did not invent Germany or German culture... They fed off it like a parasite...

It did not breed a Beethoven, Goethe, Hegel, or a Kant.

German scientists were great because they were German scientists not because of anything the Nazis instilled in them. Which is the reason Heidegger spent the rest of his post-war life explaining how a great German philosopher as he was could be seduced by Nazism - expect due to an arrogant and burning ambition to succeed at the expense of his dignity, self-respect, the respect of his peers and all his closest friends.

Nazism bred crypto-religion and pseudo-science.

The foundations were already there when the Nazis came to power, true. But how do Germans become parasites of German culture? You've got a logical fallacy there.

Anyway, the original point was that the similarity of ISIS and Nazism is only their barbarity, and nothing else.

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Reply #41 - Aug 18^th, 2014 at 9:38pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 7:47pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 4:42pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 11:53am:

The Nazi comparison to ISIS only works on the level of brutality. While they were both barbaric to unbelievers and dissidents, when the Nazis came to power they made Germany the leader in almost all fields. This is not to mention the rich cultural history of Germany as well. Now who are ISIS? A bunch of backward clowns who invent nothing, have no innovation, have no creative skills, have no great thinkers, have no great musicians ... they have nothing.

Nazism did not invent Germany or German culture... They fed off it like a parasite...

It did not breed a Beethoven, Goethe, Hegel, or a Kant.

German scientists were great because they were German scientists not because of anything the Nazis instilled in them. Which is the reason Heidegger spent the rest of his post-war life explaining how a great German philosopher as he was could be seduced by Nazism - expect due to an arrogant and burning ambition to succeed at the expense of his dignity, self-respect, the respect of his peers and all his closest friends.

Nazism bred crypto-religion and pseudo-science.

The foundations were already there when the Nazis came to power, true. But how do Germans become parasites of German culture? You've got a logical fallacy there.

Anyway, the original point was that the similarity of ISIS and Nazism is only their barbarity, and nothing else.

Herding 1700 prisoners of war & executing them is just like Nazis.

Operation Barbarossa was a war of annihilation & so is this war.

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Reply #42 - Aug 18^th, 2014 at 10:02pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 9:38pm:

Herding 1700 prisoners of war & executing them is just like Nazis.

Not really. Nazis killed civilians, including women and children.

Australia is a signatory to international laws regarding war. Some of which declare soldiers who take of their uniforms to be guilty of a war crimes.

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...A video posted anonymously on social-media sites showed emptied streets, the smoking hulks of destroyed military vehicles and at least one Iraqi police van that was apparently being driven by insurgents. Other photographs showed piles of uniforms that had been stripped off by soldiers...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/insurgents-seize-iraqi-city-of-mosul-as-troo...

The Geneva Conventions (1949) allows summary execution for combatants that are not uniformed or carry some symbol of their allegiance recognisable from afar.

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Reply #43 - Aug 18^th, 2014 at 10:31pm

Abbott Lies wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 10:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 9:38pm:

Herding 1700 prisoners of war & executing them is just like Nazis.

Not really. Nazis killed civilians, including women and children.

Australia is a signatory to international laws regarding war. Some of which declare soldiers who take of their uniforms to be guilty of a war crimes.

Quote:

...A video posted anonymously on social-media sites showed emptied streets, the smoking hulks of destroyed military vehicles and at least one Iraqi police van that was apparently being driven by insurgents. Other photographs showed piles of uniforms that had been stripped off by soldiers...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/insurgents-seize-iraqi-city-of-mosul-as-troo...

The Geneva Conventions (1949) allows summary execution for combatants that are not uniformed or carry some symbol of their allegiance recognisable from afar.

ISIS kills women & children too.

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Reply #44 - Aug 19^th, 2014 at 12:46am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 7:47pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 4:42pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 11:53am:

The Nazi comparison to ISIS only works on the level of brutality. While they were both barbaric to unbelievers and dissidents, when the Nazis came to power they made Germany the leader in almost all fields. This is not to mention the rich cultural history of Germany as well. Now who are ISIS? A bunch of backward clowns who invent nothing, have no innovation, have no creative skills, have no great thinkers, have no great musicians ... they have nothing.

Nazism did not invent Germany or German culture... They fed off it like a parasite...

It did not breed a Beethoven, Goethe, Hegel, or a Kant.

German scientists were great because they were German scientists not because of anything the Nazis instilled in them. Which is the reason Heidegger spent the rest of his post-war life explaining how a great German philosopher as he was could be seduced by Nazism - expect due to an arrogant and burning ambition to succeed at the expense of his dignity, self-respect, the respect of his peers and all his closest friends.

Nazism bred crypto-religion and pseudo-science.

The foundations were already there when the Nazis came to power, true. But how do Germans become parasites of German culture? You've got a logical fallacy there.

Why should the worst of us define the rest of us?

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