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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Islamic State - A 'Nazist Reich' in all but name Reply #45 - Aug 19^th, 2014 at 12:50am Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 7:47pm: Anyway, the original point was that the similarity of ISIS and Nazism is only their barbarity, and nothing else. And their hatred of 'the other' of course.
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Reply #46 - Aug 19^th, 2014 at 6:40am

when the barbaric Nazis tried to establish "leibensraum" in the socialist state , the socialists waged total war against them.

when the barbaric muslims try to establish leibensraum in suburban Australia, the socialists in Canberra weep for them, send planes to fly them in, kick aussies out of their public housing to make way for them.

truly a bizarre situation. Wink

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Reply #47 - Aug 19^th, 2014 at 7:45am

Shakey wrote on Aug 17^th, 2014 at 11:27am:

What they should do is when the Islamic state becomes legit put massive sanctions on it and then let it rot. They'll spend their time praying and will have no decent economy so it shouldn't be hard. When they start starving they'll start fighting amongst themselves.

America receives only half a percent of Iraqi oil of its total imports.

That was on the Bolt Show.

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Reply #48 - Aug 19^th, 2014 at 7:50am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 19^th, 2014 at 12:50am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 7:47pm:

Anyway, the original point was that the similarity of ISIS and Nazism is only their barbarity, and nothing else.

And their hatred of 'the other' of course.

And their shared sense of extreme fundamentalist exceptionalism.

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Reply #49 - Aug 19^th, 2014 at 7:55am

aquascoot wrote on Aug 19^th, 2014 at 6:40am:

when the barbaric Nazis tried to establish "leibensraum" in the socialist state , the socialists waged total war against them.

when the barbaric muslims try to establish leibensraum in suburban Australia, the socialists in Canberra weep for them, send planes to fly them in, kick aussies out of their public housing to make way for them.

truly a bizarre situation. Wink

Canberra is just ensuring that our politicians don't become the target of a home-grown terrorist bombing.

This tactic of soft-soaping and pandering to Muslim sensitivities has worked well in the US and Britain. Not a single pollie has been targetted.

The most logical target for terrorism upon a perceived enemy State is to cut off the head of its leadership with bombing and rocket-fire, but the Muslims know this would set loose the Hounds of Hell upon them and their community.

And so they stick with civilian targets to ensure the politicians will continue recruiting more potential terrorist apprentices from abroad through Muslim immigration and the refugees racket.

The first people up on the gallows should always be our own politicians ~ not the Muslims.

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Re: Islamic State - A 'Nazist Reich' in all but name
Reply #50 - Aug 19^th, 2014 at 7:55am

wally1 wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 7:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 6:00pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 7:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 7:33am:

Last night on TV it showed that 1,700 Iraqi soldiers put down their
weapons & surrendered to ISIS.

They were herded like cattle & all executed.

Those soldiers underestimated the murderous zeal of ISIS militants...

Maybe they thought the mythical sense of Islamic brotherhood guided the judgement of their enemies.

ISIS are murdering barbaric animals - worse than Nazis.

They must be exterminated off the face of the planet.

There are so many groups fighting in syria/iraq, many flying the black flag.

When ISIS took over mosul, they treated the people very well. Not every violent act is from ISIS.

“We all thought ISIS fighters will hurt people, but they did not do so,” said shop owner Fahad, referring to militants from the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS). “It is 100 percent safe here. The only thing we suffer from is the lack of public services.”

A shopkeeper within ISIS territory refusing to publicly condemn them? You're kidding.

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Re: Islamic State - A 'Nazist Reich' in all but name
Reply #52 - Aug 19^th, 2014 at 9:24am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 19^th, 2014 at 7:50am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 19^th, 2014 at 12:50am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 7:47pm:

Anyway, the original point was that the similarity of ISIS and Nazism is only their barbarity, and nothing else.

And their hatred of 'the other' of course.

And their shared sense of extreme fundamentalist exceptionalism.

And their shared fanatical religious/quasi-religious sense of destiny...

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Reply #53 - Aug 19^th, 2014 at 10:19am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 19^th, 2014 at 9:24am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 19^th, 2014 at 7:50am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 19^th, 2014 at 12:50am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Aug 18^th, 2014 at 7:47pm:

Anyway, the original point was that the similarity of ISIS and Nazism is only their barbarity, and nothing else.

And their hatred of 'the other' of course.

And their shared sense of extreme fundamentalist exceptionalism.

And their shared fanatical religious/quasi-religious sense of destiny...

OK, i'll take the 'bait'.

NorthOfNorth,

Wow! I'm glad that i don't follow a philosophy like that! Wink

My God EVEN accepts BLACK men, and he even accepts those who say;
"Wow! I've done some really, really dumb things in my life. But i'm truly sorry."

NorthOfNorth,

Do you hate, or despise, or REJECT, a religious philosophy that communicates this to ALL of mankind ???....

Acts 10:34
Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

AND,

Matthew 7:12
.....whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

Or, do you just hate God, coz he crimps your style ?

Yadda wrote on Aug 16^th, 2014 at 8:12pm:

.....
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Anyone can be a member of spiritual Israel [in God's eyes].

Anyone who seeks to please God can be a member of spiritual Israel.

Taipan,

For example, read Acts 8:26-40 of the black man, an Ethiopian....

Acts 8:27
And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship,
28 Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet.
....
....
36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

Acts 10:34
Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #54 - Aug 20^th, 2014 at 9:57am

In one aspect of deviance from Nazist modus operandi, Islamists are overt about their depravity.

Islamic State releases video which it claims shows beheading of American journalist James Foley
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-20/islamic-state-releases-video-showing-behea...

Whether you argue that the Coalition of the Willing at one time precipitated the Iraqi crisis (and you can) nothing justifies this.

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Reply #55 - Aug 20^th, 2014 at 10:12am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 20^th, 2014 at 9:57am:

In one aspect of deviance from Nazist modus operandi, Islamists are overt about their depravity.

Islamic State releases video which it claims shows beheading of American journalist James Foley
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-20/islamic-state-releases-video-showing-behea...

Whether you argue that the Coalition of the Willing at one time precipitated the Iraqi crisis (and you can) nothing justifies this.

Is ISLAM a benign philosophy ?

NO IT ISN'T!

Are non-moslems responsible for the violent intentions and violent behaviour and actions of moslems/ISLAM ?

NO THEY ARE NOT!

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In unguarded moments, moslems [addressing moslems] do expose their malevolent intent - towards those who are not moslems....

e.g.
A RESPECTED MOSLEM SCHOLAR URGING MOSLEMS, IN THE UK, TO MAINTAIN A DECEITFUL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE UK NON-MOSLEM COMMUNITY, FOR THE PURPOSE OF MOSLEMS STRENGTHENING A MALICIOUS AND VIOLENT INTENT [on the moslem part, towards those who are not moslems] #1,

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Live in peace till strong enough to wage jihad, says UK Deoband scholar to Muslims
London, Sept.8 [2007]
A Deobandi scholar believes Muslims should preach peace till they are strong enough to undertake a jihad, or a holy war.
Justice Muhammad Taqi Usmani was quoted by the BBC as saying that Muslims should live peacefully in countries such as Britain, where they have the freedom to practise Islam, only until they gain enough power to engage in battle.
A former Sharia judge in Pakistan's Supreme Court, 64-year-old Usmani, is...a regular visitor to Britain.
Polite and softly spoken....
He agreed that it was wrong to suggest that the entire non-Muslim world was intent on destroying Islam, but justifies an aggressive military jihad as a means of establishing global Islamic supremacy.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2409833.ece

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Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami

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How Circumstance Dictates Islamic Behavior
January 18, 2012

Preach Peace When Weak, Wage War When Strong

"...all notions of peace with non-Muslims are based on circumstance.

When Muslims are weak, they should be peaceful; when strong, they should go on the offensive."

Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami - an ISLAMIC scholar and Egyptian Salafi leader
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/how-circumstance-dictates-isla...

As per the directives of Allah, within ISLAM's own foundation texts;

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

iWhy is it that thinking human beings seem unable to join the dots ?

ISLAM is ISLAM.

Moslems are moslems.

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Why is it that our political leaders seem unable to join the dots ?

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

PROOF ?

That the loyalty of the moslem, is to his community, his 'nation', his religion, to ISLAM and its god, Allah ?

.......and, to Jihad.

[25-July-2014]
An Australian Islamist moslem community leader/spokesman, 'rouses the troops' of the moslem nation [the ummah], moslems resident in Australia.

Listen to what was stated on 25-July-2014 by a moslem community leader/spokesman, in Australia;

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"This nation [i.e. the moslem nation/community, the ummah] has been and will continue to be a nation of Jihad until Judgement day.

MAKE NO MISTAKE: THE NATION HAS NOT CHANGED ITS THINKING, ITS RELIGION, OR ITS FAITH. [i.e. a moslem, IS, a moslem!!!]

IT HAS BEEN AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE A NATION OF JIHAD UNTIL JUDGEMENT DAY.

...There is no God but Allah, and Jihad is the duty decreed by Allah. ....it is a delusion to think that Palestine can contain the Jews as well as its people [moslems]. ....Palestine cannot contain the moslems and the Jews.

....IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE WHETHER A JEW IS PRO-PEACE OR PRO-WAR.

....Khaybar, khaybar oh Jews!! Khaybar, khaybar oh Jews!!"

Australian Islamist Leaders Incite to Jihad to Expel Jews from Palestine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN6B8WBzbpw

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Reply #56 - Aug 20^th, 2014 at 10:47pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 20^th, 2014 at 9:57am:

In one aspect of deviance from Nazist modus operandi, Islamists are overt about their depravity.

Islamic State releases video which it claims shows beheading of American journalist James Foley
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-20/islamic-state-releases-video-showing-behea...

Whether you argue that the Coalition of the Willing at one time precipitated the Iraqi crisis (and you can) nothing justifies this.

They are devils - it's on CNN too:

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/19/world/meast/isis-james-foley/index.html?hpt=hp...

but thankfully they have chosen not to show the video.

Poor James Foley.

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Reply #57 - Aug 20^th, 2014 at 11:45pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 20^th, 2014 at 10:47pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 20^th, 2014 at 9:57am:

In one aspect of deviance from Nazist modus operandi, Islamists are overt about their depravity.

Islamic State releases video which it claims shows beheading of American journalist James Foley
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-20/islamic-state-releases-video-showing-behea...

Whether you argue that the Coalition of the Willing at one time precipitated the Iraqi crisis (and you can) nothing justifies this.

They are devils - it's on CNN too:

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/19/world/meast/isis-james-foley/index.html?hpt=hp...

but thankfully they have chosen not to show the video.

Poor James Foley.

This is not about religion... This is about living out the life of a serial killer.

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Reply #58 - Aug 21^st, 2014 at 7:11am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 20^th, 2014 at 11:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 20^th, 2014 at 10:47pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 20^th, 2014 at 9:57am:

In one aspect of deviance from Nazist modus operandi, Islamists are overt about their depravity.

Islamic State releases video which it claims shows beheading of American journalist James Foley
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-20/islamic-state-releases-video-showing-behea...

Whether you argue that the Coalition of the Willing at one time precipitated the Iraqi crisis (and you can) nothing justifies this.

They are devils - it's on CNN too:

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/19/world/meast/isis-james-foley/index.html?hpt=hp...

but thankfully they have chosen not to show the video.

Poor James Foley.

This is not about religion... This is about living out the life of a serial killer.

Now they are saying that the terrorist was British.

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Reply #59 - Aug 21^st, 2014 at 7:43am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 20^th, 2014 at 11:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 20^th, 2014 at 10:47pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 20^th, 2014 at 9:57am:

In one aspect of deviance from Nazist modus operandi, Islamists are overt about their depravity.

Islamic State releases video which it claims shows beheading of American journalist James Foley
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-20/islamic-state-releases-video-showing-behea...

Whether you argue that the Coalition of the Willing at one time precipitated the Iraqi crisis (and you can) nothing justifies this.

They are devils - it's on CNN too:

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/19/world/meast/isis-james-foley/index.html?hpt=hp...

but thankfully they have chosen not to show the video.

Poor James Foley.

This is not about religion... This is about living out the life of a serial killer.

moh had 100's of people beheaded.

It is religion, it is islam

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