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xiena Junior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 60 Canberra Gender:	Re: Islamic State - A 'Nazist Reich' in all but name Reply #75 - Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 6:10pm They should follow the same tactics as George Bush Snr. Attack ISIS using tanks and bulldozers, burying them as they go, until they are off the face of the Earth.
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Reply #76 - Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 7:10pm

King FriYAY II wrote on Aug 21^st, 2014 at 12:46pm:

wally1 wrote on Aug 21^st, 2014 at 12:35pm:

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This is your response to innocent journalists having their heads hacked of while they are still alive!

Un smacking real..... Angry

Wally is just being a wally again.
All he has to offer are 5000 year old stories, and the activities of a couple of combat stressed Vietnam vets from 50 years ago.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106006 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Islamic State - A 'Nazist Reich' in all but name Reply #78 - Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 8:16pm xiena wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 6:10pm: They should follow the same tactics as George Bush Snr. Attack ISIS using tanks and bulldozers, burying them as they go, until they are off the face of the Earth. Bush knew what to do.
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Re: Islamic State - A 'Nazist Reich' in all but name
Reply #79 - Aug 24^th, 2014 at 5:02am

Bobby. wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 8:16pm:

xiena wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 6:10pm:

They should follow the same tactics as George Bush Snr.

Attack ISIS using tanks and bulldozers, burying them as they go, until they are off the face of the Earth.

Bush knew what to do.

Someone once advocated laying the Ho Chi Minh Trail with radioactive waste. I said why not? Would you prefer their boys to die or yours?

When it comes to cluster bombs and bulldozers burying the opposition, I say bring it on. A neutron bomb in their area would do wonders...... they could sit all day at Allah's feet in between virgins and stuff and talk about the evils of the Zionist Crusaders....

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Reply #80 - Aug 24^th, 2014 at 7:44am

It seems the psyche of the early 20th century still persists into the 21st.

Bombing them 'back to the stone age' or 'wiping them off the map' (presumably with bombs) still echoes in the west, even at the Pentagon.

Fact is, making victims and martyrs out of women and children seems to have a counter-productive effect...

Who even talks about the 'surge' in Iraq now? No one characterises Afghanistan as a decisive victory for the west and we are still coming to terms with the dramatic defeat of Vietnam.

Puppet regimes (like Al Maliki's government and - decades before - the Shah's) ultimately collapse, bringing with it ultra-violent 'blowback' that threatens the west far more immediately than the original conflict.

Putting the genie of Islamism back into its cultural bottle is a task for those whose roots and lives are within the culture of the Middle East and not from the west which was, for a millennia or more, an enemy of the middle east.

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Reply #81 - Aug 24^th, 2014 at 8:41am

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 5:02am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 8:16pm:

xiena wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 6:10pm:

They should follow the same tactics as George Bush Snr.

Attack ISIS using tanks and bulldozers, burying them as they go, until they are off the face of the Earth.

Bush knew what to do.

Someone once advocated laying the Ho Chi Minh Trail with radioactive waste. I said why not? Would you prefer their boys to die or yours?

When it comes to cluster bombs and bulldozers burying the opposition, I say bring it on. A neutron bomb in their area would do wonders...... they could sit all day at Allah's feet in between virgins and stuff and talk about the evils of the Zionist Crusaders....

It's time that we did what ISIS has done:

take no prisoners.

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Reply #82 - Aug 24^th, 2014 at 9:13am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 7:44am:

It seems the psyche of the early 20th century still persists into the 21st.

Bombing them 'back to the stone age' or 'wiping them off the map' (presumably with bombs) still echoes in the west, even at the Pentagon.

Fact is, making victims and martyrs out of women and children seems to have a counter-productive effect...

Who even talks about the 'surge' in Iraq now? No one characterises Afghanistan as a decisive victory for the west and we are still coming to terms with the dramatic defeat of Vietnam.

Puppet regimes (like Al Maliki's government and - decades before - the Shah's) ultimately collapse, bringing with it ultra-violent 'blowback' that threatens the west far more immediately than the original conflict.

Putting the genie of Islamism back into its cultural bottle is a task for those whose roots and lives are within the culture of the Middle East and not from the west which was, for a millennia or more, an enemy of the middle east.

north, youre looking at it the wrong way.

1.USA is soon to become an energy exporter. if the middle eastern oil stops flowing, Wall St goes up.

a win for uncle sam.

2. the USA will nev er forgive the arabs for 9/11.
it would appear (at least to my observation) that we are going to see a massive civil war that will engulf most states from algeria to turkey.

This is an american dream scenario.

3. The USA will not put boots back on the ground (why would they when they can sit back and say we tried but these people are simply too stupid to embrace democracy). So now the US can pump billions into drone technology, sit back in Nevada and just roast any fool they feel like with total impunity and total safety and on sell billions in drones to every other country on earth.

Truly, the west has out foxed the rather retarded peoples of the middle east.

America played its hand well in WW1, it played its hand well in WW2 and if this is WW3, i would say the pentagon has performed brilliantly.
In a world which will increasingly become nationalistic , one must dip ones hat to the CIA and the joint chiefs and say "well played sir". to the victor goes the spoils.

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Reply #83 - Aug 24^th, 2014 at 10:33am

aquascoot wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 9:13am:

2. the USA will never forgive the arabs for 9/11.

The USA not only absolved the Arab country of responsibility from which nearly all the 9/11 bombers were citizens, they invaded and destablised a country that played no part in 9/11 and partnered up with a nation from which a large minority of the population sympathise with the 9/11 planners.

aquascoot wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 9:13am:

it would appear (at least to my observation) that we are going to see a massive civil war that will engulf most states from algeria to turkey.

This is an american dream scenario.

Hardly a dream scenario. Turkey is a NATO ally and Pakistan (which is largely sympathetic to Islamism) is a nuclear power.

aquascoot wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 9:13am:

3. The USA will not put boots back on the ground (why would they when they can sit back and say we tried but these people are simply too stupid to embrace democracy).

Hard to sell is not democracy as much as Pax Europa or Pax Americana

aquascoot wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 9:13am:

Truly, the west has out foxed the rather retarded peoples of the middle east.

Hardly out foxed the Middle East as blundered about using WW1 and WW2 strategies which have failed since the 60s.

aquascoot wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 9:13am:

America played its hand well in WW1, it played its hand well in WW2 and if this is WW3, i would say the pentagon has performed brilliantly.

More like the US placed untold billions on 23 red and spun the Middle Eastern roulette wheel.

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Re: Islamic State - A 'Nazist Reich' in all but name
Reply #84 - Aug 24^th, 2014 at 10:42am

Bobby. wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 8:41am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 5:02am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 8:16pm:

xiena wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 6:10pm:

They should follow the same tactics as George Bush Snr.

Attack ISIS using tanks and bulldozers, burying them as they go, until they are off the face of the Earth.

Bush knew what to do.

Someone once advocated laying the Ho Chi Minh Trail with radioactive waste. I said why not? Would you prefer their boys to die or yours?

When it comes to cluster bombs and bulldozers burying the opposition, I say bring it on. A neutron bomb in their area would do wonders...... they could sit all day at Allah's feet in between virgins and stuff and talk about the evils of the Zionist Crusaders....

It's time that we did what ISIS has done:

take no prisoners.

The problem is identifying the prisoners from the innocent.

Much of the answer to this lies with the Kurds... The only part of Iraq stable enough to get the job done and (currently) not infected with Islamist ideology.

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Re: Islamic State - A 'Nazist Reich' in all but name
Reply #85 - Aug 24^th, 2014 at 4:04pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 7:44am:

It seems the psyche of the early 20th century still persists into the 21st.

Bombing them 'back to the stone age' or 'wiping them off the map' (presumably with bombs) still echoes in the west, even at the Pentagon.

Fact is, making victims and martyrs out of women and children seems to have a counter-productive effect...

Who even talks about the 'surge' in Iraq now? No one characterises Afghanistan as a decisive victory for the west and we are still coming to terms with the dramatic defeat of Vietnam.

Puppet regimes (like Al Maliki's government and - decades before - the Shah's) ultimately collapse, bringing with it ultra-violent 'blowback' that threatens the west far more immediately than the original conflict.

Putting the genie of Islamism back into its cultural bottle is a task for those whose roots and lives are within the culture of the Middle East and not from the west which was, for a millennia or more, an enemy of the middle east.

I think they were a bigger threat to the west when they had taken Spain and were making their way into France. I guess it depends on your perspective.

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Reply #86 - Aug 24^th, 2014 at 4:22pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 10:42am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 8:41am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 5:02am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 8:16pm:

xiena wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 6:10pm:

They should follow the same tactics as George Bush Snr.

Attack ISIS using tanks and bulldozers, burying them as they go, until they are off the face of the Earth.

Bush knew what to do.

Someone once advocated laying the Ho Chi Minh Trail with radioactive waste. I said why not? Would you prefer their boys to die or yours?

When it comes to cluster bombs and bulldozers burying the opposition, I say bring it on. A neutron bomb in their area would do wonders...... they could sit all day at Allah's feet in between virgins and stuff and talk about the evils of the Zionist Crusaders....

It's time that we did what ISIS has done:

take no prisoners.

The problem is identifying the prisoners from the innocent.

Much of the answer to this lies with the Kurds... The only part of Iraq stable enough to get the job done and (currently) not infected with Islamist ideology.

But in one case - a few weeks ago - 1,700 Iraqi soldiers
put down their weapons & gave themselves up to ISIS.

They were rounded up & all were executed.

I would rather die in combat than like that.

It shows what we're up against - the worst thugs since the Nazis.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49224 At my desk.	Re: Islamic State - A 'Nazist Reich' in all but name Reply #87 - Aug 24^th, 2014 at 4:49pm How long did it take them to kill them all? It would be interesting to see if they have topped Muhammed's record of 800 in one day.
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Reply #88 - Aug 25^th, 2014 at 8:44am

Bobby. wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 4:22pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 10:42am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 8:41am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 5:02am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 8:16pm:

xiena wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2014 at 6:10pm:

They should follow the same tactics as George Bush Snr.

Attack ISIS using tanks and bulldozers, burying them as they go, until they are off the face of the Earth.

Bush knew what to do.

Someone once advocated laying the Ho Chi Minh Trail with radioactive waste. I said why not? Would you prefer their boys to die or yours?

When it comes to cluster bombs and bulldozers burying the opposition, I say bring it on. A neutron bomb in their area would do wonders...... they could sit all day at Allah's feet in between virgins and stuff and talk about the evils of the Zionist Crusaders....

It's time that we did what ISIS has done:

take no prisoners.

The problem is identifying the prisoners from the innocent.

Much of the answer to this lies with the Kurds... The only part of Iraq stable enough to get the job done and (currently) not infected with Islamist ideology.

But in one case - a few weeks ago - 1,700 Iraqi soldiers
put down their weapons & gave themselves up to ISIS.

They were rounded up & all were executed.

bobby, bobby, bobby,

Haven't you heard yet ?

The executioners of the 1,700 Iraqi soldiers, were Zionists, disguised as ISIS cadres.

Israel has teams of moslem impersonators, death squads, that at a moments notice, can travel surreptitiously to places all over the world, to murder people - WHILE PRETENDING TO BE MOSLEMS!

ISIS has nothing to do with Islam.

The execution of the 1,700 Iraqi soldiers was a preconceived plan of Zionists, who want to deliberately make Islam look bad. Tongue

"ISLAM is peace"

AND,

"[ISLAM] rejects terror and promotes peace and harmony."

http://www.mcb.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2307:mcbnewst...
http://www.mcb.org.uk/article_detail.php?article=announcement-656

Honest! Tongue

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bobby,

#1,
HERE ARE EVEN MORE ZIONISTS, PRETENDING TO BE MOSLEMS!!!!!

Mild mannered - Mohammed Morsi -
Ex-President of Egypt

"The Koran is our constitution"
"The Prophet Muhammad is our leader"
"Jihad is our path"
"AND DEATH FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAH IS OUR MOST LOFTY ASPIRATION!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8NtiUMOFFg

#2,
HERE ARE EVEN MORE ZIONISTS, PRETENDING TO BE MOSLEMS!!!!!

"What makes Allah happy?
Allah is happy, when kafir get killed."

Please watch this YT...

Muslims being deceptive Islam EX-Muslims

goto 4m 30s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZx8cNSC9O0

#3,
HERE ARE EVEN MORE ZIONISTS, PRETENDING TO BE MOSLEMS!!!!!

A UK moslem community leader, speaking of the London 7/7 bombing;

YT

KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE
"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."
"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4i

ISLAMIC law texts declare, moslems can 'lawfully' kill 'unbelievers'/apostates,

"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

n.b.
"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."

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QUESTION;
Are [as local moslems would insist] all of these moslems [YT's above] who are inciting violence, and hatred, 'misunderstanding' what ISLAM is ?

OR, is it we, those who tolerate moslems living among us, who are stubbornly refusing to acknowledge what ISLAM is ?

.....because the truth is too terrible, for us to believe ?

"....the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood."

Egyptian ISLAMIC scholar, Sayyid Qutb.

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Re: Islamic State - A 'Nazist Reich' in all but name
Reply #89 - Aug 25^th, 2014 at 11:07am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 24^th, 2014 at 10:33am: