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Reply #45 - Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:30am
 
When was the last time there was a beheading in Australia? I know of two that happened in my town. One was 9 years ago, by a group of Jihadists who didn't like one of their own befriending an infidel. The other was practically a beheading, because the assailants (who, incidentally, converted to Islam in gaol) killed the guy by digging in to his neck with a bowie and leaving his head near severed. Posting up a cartoon about the slaying of aborigines is not going to change my mind about beheadings of people in the Middle East as being a cultural modus operandi.

I'm talking about with the intentional removal of people's heads in the 21st century Australia. Include the 20th century, if you want. I don't believe you about the 19th and 18th century. Do you have an example within the last 3 centuries of an actual person (named) who has committed a beheading on anyone. Bonus points if the person you are talking about is caucasian. I can only name one, and he got off lightly on a mental incapacitation plea.

And whilst you are right to say that because some Middle Easterners do behead people with no apparent remorse, that it doesn't make them all a bunch of crazed psychopaths... that completely misses the point. You might not be aware that those regions deem the infanticide of their children to not being barbaric. They will slit the throats of deformed or handicapped children. They would probably take the life of some black or white child simply on the basis that they aren't Middle Eastern. I wouldn't trust a non-secular region of the world simply starting with the basis that they have no problem prosecuting someone for having alcohol or prosecuting someone for reporting a rape against herself.

As for Mr Munga, the situation is that he has kicked down the door and is ready to see what your insides look like. But as an alternative interpretation, let's say he has knocked politely on your door, with machete in hand, and wants to discuss Midnight Oil with you. Are you really going to have so little intuition that you wouldn't call the polisi?

Btw, "Ackbar" is the stereotypical generalisation for a Middle Eastern male who tries to condemn "The West" and the United States for all his stupid self-inflicted problems.
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Reply #46 - Aug 24th, 2014 at 9:08am
 
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One was 9 years ago, by a group of Jihadists
who didn't like one of their own befriending an infidel.


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Reply #47 - Aug 24th, 2014 at 11:47am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 22nd, 2014 at 8:45pm:
it appears GA is not being sensible.



Oswald was a card carrying communist, his shooting of Kennedy supposedly related to the Americans mistreatment of Cuba, the Bay of Pigs invasion. But despite 'all of the politics', actually politics did 'not' come into it at all. Oswald was an attention seeker, his motivations were psychological. The JFK assassination was in 'no' way an act that was politically motivated. 

Likewise, as I'd had it pointed out to me at the time it was happening, the fighting in Northern Ireland had nothing at all to do with religion, and everything to do with it being a class war. The working class Irish, who happened to be Catholics vs the British loyalists who happened to be protestants.

Got it now, Stupid.
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Reply #48 - Aug 24th, 2014 at 3:41pm
 
At least the Yanks will stop them:


http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/21/world/meast/iraq-crisis/index.html?hpt=hp_t2


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Pentagon chief: ISIS 'beyond anything we have seen'


(CNN) -- America's top defense officials left open the possibility of targeting ISIS fighters in Syria, saying during a news briefing Thursday that it was not enough to just hit the extremist group in Iraq.

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel and Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, stopped short of calling for U.S. military action in eastern Syria, an ISIS stronghold.

"Can they be defeated without addressing that part of the organization that resides in Syria? The answer is no," Dempsey said during the briefing at the Pentagon.

Repeatedly pushed by reporters about whether that meant operations against ISIS in Syria, Hagel said, "We're looking at all options."
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Reply #49 - Aug 24th, 2014 at 3:44pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 9:08am:
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One was 9 years ago, by a group of Jihadists
who didn't like one of their own befriending an infidel.


link?


Off the record, kind of thing.
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Reply #50 - Aug 24th, 2014 at 7:11pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 1:30am:
When was the last time there was a beheading in Australia? I know of two that happened in my town. One was 9 years ago, by a group of Jihadists who didn't like one of their own befriending an infidel. The other was practically a beheading, because the assailants (who, incidentally, converted to Islam in gaol) killed the guy by digging in to his neck with a bowie and leaving his head near severed. Posting up a cartoon about the slaying of aborigines is not going to change my mind about beheadings of people in the Middle East as being a cultural modus operandi.


It wasn't intended to.  It was intended to point out the contradictions between what The Dear Leader was claiming and what actually happened.   Roll Eyes

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I'm talking about with the intentional removal of people's heads in the 21st century Australia. Include the 20th century, if you want. I don't believe you about the 19th and 18th century. Do you have an example within the last 3 centuries of an actual person (named) who has committed a beheading on anyone. Bonus points if the person you are talking about is caucasian. I can only name one, and he got off lightly on a mental incapacitation plea.


John Fleming
John Russell
James Lamb
John Blake
William Hawkins
Edward Foley
John (Black) Johnstone
George Palliser
James Oates (Hall’s Jemmy)
Charles Telluse
James Parry.

Were all placed on trial for the Myall Creek Massacre where Aborigines (primarily children) were beheaded.  All were Caucasian.  This occurred in the last 300 years, in Australia.   Did I get all my points?   Roll Eyes

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And whilst you are right to say that because some Middle Easterners do behead people with no apparent remorse, that it doesn't make them all a bunch of crazed psychopaths... that completely misses the point. You might not be aware that those regions deem the infanticide of their children to not being barbaric. They will slit the throats of deformed or handicapped children. They would probably take the life of some black or white child simply on the basis that they aren't Middle Eastern. I wouldn't trust a non-secular region of the world simply starting with the basis that they have no problem prosecuting someone for having alcohol or prosecuting someone for reporting a rape against herself.


You are relying on stereotypes.  The Middle East is a big place, with multiple cultures and societies in it, it stretches from North Africa to Turkey and Iraq and down to Oman.

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As for Mr Munga, the situation is that he has kicked down the door and is ready to see what your insides look like. But as an alternative interpretation, let's say he has knocked politely on your door, with machete in hand, and wants to discuss Midnight Oil with you. Are you really going to have so little intuition that you wouldn't call the polisi?


Again, it depends on the circumstance.  If Mr. Munga has just come from working in the Cane Fields, I wouldn't be surprised to see a machete in his hand.   I would be at most cautious, as I would be with anyone who came to the door with a bloody big knife in his hand but I wouldn't necessarily automatically assume that beyond desiring a discussion over an issue which concerns him, that anything was overly amiss.

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Btw, "Ackbar" is the stereotypical generalisation for a Middle Eastern male who tries to condemn "The West" and the United States for all his stupid self-inflicted problems.


It is?  It's the first time I've heard the term.  Perhaps we just move in different circles?   Same as I've never heard the term, "Mr.Munga" before.
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Reply #51 - Aug 24th, 2014 at 10:05pm
 
Did you know that back in WWI when the Arabs were helping France in the war... they didn't really believe they killed a man even when shot and dead until they cut his head off?

Weird hey?
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Reply #52 - Aug 25th, 2014 at 8:59am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 7:11pm:
Were all placed on trial for the Myall Creek Massacre




"After two trials, seven of the 11 colonists involved in the killings were found guilty of murder and hanged.

i.e. NOT part of the culture, you silly ass.

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Reply #53 - Sep 2nd, 2014 at 7:23pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 24th, 2014 at 12:52am:
Tone Rabbit has implied that blame be passed to all Muslims by suggesting that Muslims need to join "Team Australia"...   Roll Eyes



Don't they?  They do. Yet some Muslim organisation took exception to that expectation and boycotted a meeting with Abbott  because he wanted them all to be together with the rest of Australia against Islamists.

WHat's wrong with that?

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Reply #54 - Sep 2nd, 2014 at 7:40pm
 
As usual Soren, your bigotry has you so far in it's grip that you can't even consider the possibility that Australian Muslims are already in Team Australia.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #55 - Sep 2nd, 2014 at 8:40pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 7:40pm:
As usual Soren, your bigotry has you so far in it's grip that you can't even consider the possibility that Australian Muslims are already in Team Australia.   Roll Eyes

some may be. Many aren't. The black flag jihadis rampaging  in Sydney and their supporters aren't. The ones hot for jihad and their supporters and funders aren't. They are out of the team because they are in the enemy team.
There are enemies of this country and of the west, you know, not just friends whose grievances we haven't accommodated yet.
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Reply #56 - Sep 2nd, 2014 at 8:44pm
 
Soren wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 8:40pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 7:40pm:
As usual Soren, your bigotry has you so far in it's grip that you can't even consider the possibility that Australian Muslims are already in Team Australia.   Roll Eyes

some may be. Many aren't. The black flag jihadis is rampaging  in Sydney and their supporters aren't.


Hyperbole, Soren?   Jihadis are not "rampaging in Sydney".

You acknowledge that only some are in "Team Australia" and many aren't.  I'd suggest it's the other way 'round - most are, a few aren't.

Tone Rabbit definitely has no management skills if he thinks the best way to recruit new team members is to berate them all the time.  However, the major difference between you and him is that he actually wants Muslims to join him, even if he is clumsily going about it.  You openly reject all Muslims, no matter what their loyalty may be, prejudging them before they say or do anything.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #57 - Sep 2nd, 2014 at 8:49pm
 
What I and everyone acknowledge is that the ones who are NOT in the team are motivated by Islam.
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Reply #58 - Sep 2nd, 2014 at 8:59pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 7:40pm:
As usual Soren, your bigotry has you so far in it's grip that you can't even consider the possibility that Australian Muslims are already in Team Australia.   Roll Eyes


BWAhahahahahaha ....... yeah that's a good one.

Muslims are here for themselves and they contribute only to themselves and their communities. They're here to spread their community as far as it can go knowing full well that Australia is up for the taking thanks to traitor politicians and their supporters.

Personally, I don't want them to contribute or assimilate I just want them to leave our country.
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Reply #59 - Sep 2nd, 2014 at 9:02pm
 
Soren wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 8:49pm:
What I and everyone acknowledge is that the ones who are NOT in the team are motivated by Islam.

As are those who are.  Interesting contradiction there.  Both groups claim that they are motivated by Islam.   Rather like how Christians in the 30 years war, both Catholics and Protestants claimed they were motivated by their Christianity when fighting and slaughtering each other.  Could it be a matter of interpretation, Soren?   You seem very rigid in your views on Islam, you assume all Muslims are monolithic in their beliefs.  It suits you to portray Islam and Muslims in this way, it makes your bigotry easier.   Roll Eyes
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