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Reply #105 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 1:01pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 12:56pm:

Soren wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 11:57am:

He wants a caliphate like you

Why do you keep peddling this crap?

Its about the 5th time you've said it just this week. I've literally no idea where you got this from.

You are a devout Muslim. The caliphate is the desired Islamic form of government. As a devout Muslim you cannot be against the idea of the establishment of a caliphate just as you cannot be against jihad and sharia. They are integral parts of your religious ideology.

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Reply #106 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 1:31pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 12:55pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 12:15pm:

I thought it was fairly obvious what it meant. It doesn't demand anything. You do.

No actually its not obvious at all FD, and it demands a measurement - by your own definition.

You start with the premise that the muslim community is not doing enough - based not on any knowledge of what the muslim community is actually doing, but only on the claim that 100 muslims are engaging in jihad in the ME. And yet while you use the number of jihadists as the sole criteria for what constitutes "not doing enough" - you refuse to explain what the figure would need to go down to before it *WAS* doing enough.

Unless you can come up with another (more sensible) justification for your claim that the muslim community needs to "do more", then I'm afraid you are stuck with requiring some sort of measurement to explain why 100 jihadists represents "not doing enough".

No I'm not. They need to do more. They are so far from enough that trying to satisfy you with a definition would trivialise how poorly the Muslim community is doing at this.

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Reply #107 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 1:35pm

Soren wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 1:01pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 12:56pm:

Soren wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 11:57am:

He wants a caliphate like you

Why do you keep peddling this crap?

Its about the 5th time you've said it just this week. I've literally no idea where you got this from.

You are a devout Muslim. The caliphate is the desired Islamic form of government. As a devout Muslim you cannot be against the idea of the establishment of a caliphate just as you cannot be against jihad and sharia. They are integral parts of your religious ideology.

Exactly. Just don’t tell them that, as a devout Protestant Anglophile, your own favoured form of government is the head-hacking "protectorate" of Oliver Cromwell.

Always, absolutely, never ever, eh?

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: ISIS is a Zionist plot - says a moslem woman who.. Reply #108 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 1:37pm freediver wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 1:31pm: No I'm not. They need to do more. They are so far from enough OK lets dumb it down for you. "need to do more...", "so far from enough..." - based on what?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49233 At my desk.	Re: ISIS is a Zionist plot - says a moslem woman who.. Reply #109 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 1:38pm BTW Gandalf, how do you know they are doing aid work rather than fighting for ISIS? Is it because they put "helping refugees" on their departure card rather than "slaughtering the infidel"?
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Reply #110 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 1:39pm

cods wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 12:11pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 12:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 10:21am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:58am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:54am:

cods wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:50am:

I havent looked on them the same since the child swinging the severed head....

"them" as in muslims, or mentally ill psychopaths?

I thought they were following the teachings in God's book?

God wrote this book & you have to follow it no matter how barbaric & insane it is.

Notice how Gandalf ignored my statement?

I have noticed he only answers a question with another question....or carefully plays with a word like measure.... well is it Zero or 100.. as if thats the real point..

Sounds like he’s learnt from the master.

Sometimes a question is just a question, dear.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: ISIS is a Zionist plot - says a moslem woman who.. Reply #111 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 1:39pm Soren wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 1:01pm: As a devout Muslim you cannot be against the idea of the establishment of a caliphate just as you cannot be against jihad and sharia. I can and I am. How about you stop dictating what are and what are not my beliefs "as a devout muslim"?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49233 At my desk.	Re: ISIS is a Zionist plot - says a moslem woman who.. Reply #112 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 1:40pm I agree. Gandalf is hardly devout.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: ISIS is a Zionist plot - says a moslem woman who.. Reply #113 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 1:44pm BTW, in which Islamic doctrine does it say muslims must be in favour of the caliphate? Does Soren realise that the Caliphate came after islamic law was handed down?
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Reply #114 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 2:11pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 1:44pm:

BTW, in which Islamic doctrine does it say muslims must be in favour of the caliphate?

Does Soren realise that the Caliphate came after islamic law was handed down?

The old boy’s still wrestling with how he can agree completely with Anders Breivik, but distance himself as much as possible.

It’s a work in progress that’s been going on for at least as long as the old boy’s Birdy Num Num posts. We’ve had exactly this discussion quite a few times, and the old boy carries on as if it’s the first time. The confected outrage, the sanctimonious moralizing, the complete lack of reflection or self awareness.

The trick in acting, you see, is to appear as if the words have just come to you, even though you’ve rehearsed them over and over again.

Always, absolutely, never ever. The "whirlwind of passion" comes and goes, but one thing is certain - the lines never change.

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Reply #115 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 3:10pm

Soren wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 12:22pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 11:47am:

You're a right wing Skando, Soren. Nobody blames you for Mangs or Breivik.

Mangs didn't act in the name of Carl Gustaf. Nor Breivik in the name of Harald. Neither acted in the name of any religion. Islamists act in the name of Allah and for the caliphate.
There is no parallel between Mangs, Breivik and Islamist jihad.

how about this paring
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There are no differences between Islam and Nazism they are both totalitarian regimes/religions and hate the Jewish, suppress gay rights to the point where you could be killed for it and women are just baby machines, they also think the are superior to others races. *

and feel the need for TOTAL CONTROL...and like any addict.. always looking for their next fix....

its odd how muslims find the need to go and live in a predominantly Christian country rather than in another Muslim country....

maybe the weather Roll Eyes

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it cant be fear as they keep telling us we have nothing to fear from Islam..

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Reply #116 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 4:01pm

I agree, dear. It’s probably the weather that makes Malaysia and Indonesia the biggest tourist destinations for Australian holiday makers too.

Or the weather that gives these countries sizeable populations of Christians and Buddhists, or makes their politicians come on Lateline and condemn ISIS et al, promise to work with Australia on bi-lateral security and trade agreements, and prioritize these regional partnerships over the military objectives of TOTAL CONTROL favoured by former Western-backed Muslim generals like Suharto.

In fact, it must be the weather that gives this region one of the biggest Muslim populations, with Indonesia the biggest Muslim country in the world. You blame the weather?

We blame Islam, dear.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49233 At my desk.	Re: ISIS is a Zionist plot - says a moslem woman who.. Reply #117 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 4:18pm The majority of Malaysian Muslims support the death penalty for apostasy (which is straight from the Koran) and stoning people to death for adultery.
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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: ISIS is a Zionist plot - says a moslem woman who.. Reply #118 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 4:36pm What a load of cobblers!
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Reply #119 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 4:43pm

Karnal wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 1:35pm:

Just don’t tell them that, as a devout Protestant Anglophile, your own favoured form of government is the head-hacking "protectorate" of Oliver Cromwell.

Always, absolutely, never ever, eh?

You are an absolute idiot. Is Elizabeth II an heir and successor to Cromwell, you silly PB? Does the constitution of Australia make any reference to Cromwell's England?
Stupidity is the only thing where you are never out of your depth.

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