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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49241 At my desk.	Re: ISIS is a Zionist plot - says a moslem woman who.. Reply #150 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 9:07pm Do you see any similarities Gandalf? No cheating.
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Reply #151 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 9:28pm

freediver wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 6:50pm:

You don't see any similarities between ISIS and what Muhammed did?

The bearded monsters of ISIS do.
Who is going to explain to them that they are wrong? The 'vast majority of peaceful etc' or the infidel kuffr who do not even read classical Arabic.
The 'vast majority' crowd seem cool about Islam and Mohammed's example being appropriated as long as the kuffr pretend it's not being appropriated.
Victimhood=good, responsibility=western colonial construct contrary to sharia.

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Reply #152 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 9:38pm

Why aren't Muslims on the streets about their religion being supposedly hijacked by Isis?
They had no difficulty mobilising and getting really het up over cartoons and YouTube videos. But kill lots of people in the name of Islam on youtube and the 'vast majority of peaceful etc' crowd have nuffin' to do wiv nuffin'.

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Reply #153 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 9:52pm

Soren wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 9:38pm:

Why aren't Muslims on the streets about their religion being supposedly hijacked by Isis?
They had no difficulty mobilising and getting really het up over cartoons and YouTube videos. But kill lots of people in the name of Islam on youtube and the 'vast majority of peaceful etc' crowd have nuffin' to do wiv nuffin'.

Yes, people notice. Cartoons equals universal islamic outrage, Muslims are united and the west chastised for incitement and free speech. Muslims are always victims.

Beheadings and holding heads in general, hardly a peep, Muslims looking down and shuffling feet and the so called leaders boycott a governmental meeting. People can join dots.

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Reply #154 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 10:58pm

Soren wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 9:38pm:

Why aren't Muslims on the streets about their religion being supposedly hijacked by Isis?

Because thats not what street protests are about. People don't organise protests just to make people like you feel better, or to submit to your blackmail. Protests are directed at the host nation's government, to pressure it to take a particular policy direction.

Your demand is no different to demanding rank and file catholics take to the streets against the catholic church being hijacked by pedophiles and the leadership that covers it up.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #155 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 11:12pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 10:58pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 9:38pm:

Why aren't Muslims on the streets about their religion being supposedly hijacked by Isis?

Because thats not what street protests are about. People don't organise protests just to make people like you feel better, or to submit to your blackmail. Protests are directed at the host nation's government, to pressure it to take a particular policy direction.

Your demand is no different to demanding rank and file catholics take to the streets against the catholic church being hijacked by pedophiles and the leadership that covers it up.

Catholics are not boycotting the royal commission.
Muslims are boycotting talks about islamist terrorism.

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Reply #156 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 11:14pm

Soren wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 9:38pm:

Why aren't Muslims on the streets about their religion being supposedly hijacked by Isis?

You must have missed Syrians in Sydney and Melbourne protesting against the Assad regime, old chap.

Completely understandable. The Australian and the Tele didn’t cover it.

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Reply #157 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 11:18pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 11:14pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 9:38pm:

Why aren't Muslims on the streets about their religion being supposedly hijacked by Isis?

You must have missed Syrians in Sydney and Melbourne protesting against the Assad regime, old chap.

Completely understandable. The Australian and the Tele didn’t cover it.

Ah, then it's OK to behead in the name of Islam.
Got it.

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Yadda Gold Member Online Posts: 21843 A cat with a view	Re: ISIS is a Zionist plot - says a moslem woman who.. Reply #158 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 11:30pm freediver wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 9:07pm: Do you see any similarities Gandalf? No cheating. Come on. Get real. You're begging a moslem ? 'Don't cheat.' ? Google; taqiyya Google; taqiyya - the muslim doctrine of deceit
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Reply #159 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 11:36pm

Soren wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 9:38pm:

Why aren't Muslims on the streets about their religion being supposedly hijacked by Isis?

Soren,

The decent moslems, all around the world, are all silently fuming, that ISIS is bringing ISLAM into disrepute.

Honest!!!!!! Cheesy

I've heard that Hilayly is apoplectic about what ISIS is doing to the reputation of HIS religion. Tongue

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #160 - Sep 5^th, 2014 at 10:37am

Yadda wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 11:36pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 9:38pm:

Why aren't Muslims on the streets about their religion being supposedly hijacked by Isis?

Soren,

The decent moslems, all around the world, are all silently fuming, that ISIS is bringing ISLAM into disrepute.

Honest!!!!!! Cheesy

I've heard that Hilayly is apoplectic about what ISIS is doing to the reputation of HIS religion. Tongue

And you've been demanding Hilali do just that for years.

Honest!

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: ISIS is a Zionist plot - says a moslem woman who.. Reply #161 - Sep 5^th, 2014 at 11:38am Karnal wrote on Sep 5^th, 2014 at 10:37am: And you've been demanding Hilali do just that for years. Honest! Don't you see the rationale for why muslims will always be evil? - stay silent - they are apologists - speak out - they are self serving
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Reply #162 - Sep 5^th, 2014 at 11:51am

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 5^th, 2014 at 11:38am:

Karnal wrote on Sep 5^th, 2014 at 10:37am:

And you've been demanding Hilali do just that for years.

Honest!

Don't you see the rationale for

why muslims will always be evil?

- stay silent - they are apologists
- speak out - they are self serving

- stay silent - they are apologists
- speak out - they are self serving

No, gandalf.

THIS ----->

Is why all moslems are evil......

A RESPECTED MOSLEM SCHOLAR URGING MOSLEMS, IN THE UK, TO MAINTAIN A DECEITFUL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE UK NON-MOSLEM COMMUNITY, FOR THE PURPOSE OF MOSLEMS STRENGTHENING A MALICIOUS AND VIOLENT INTENT [on the moslem part, towards those who are not moslems].

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Live in peace till strong enough to wage jihad, says UK Deoband scholar to Muslims
London, Sept.8 [2007]
A Deobandi scholar believes Muslims should preach peace till they are strong enough to undertake a jihad, or a holy war.
Justice Muhammad Taqi Usmani was quoted by the BBC as saying that Muslims should live peacefully in countries such as Britain, where they have the freedom to practise Islam, only until they gain enough power to engage in battle.
A former Sharia judge in Pakistan's Supreme Court, 64-year-old Usmani, is...a regular visitor to Britain.
Polite and softly spoken....
He agreed that it was wrong to suggest that the entire non-Muslim world was intent on destroying Islam, but justifies an aggressive military jihad as a means of establishing global Islamic supremacy.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2409833.ece

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Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami

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How Circumstance Dictates Islamic Behavior
January 18, 2012

Preach Peace When Weak, Wage War When Strong

"...all notions of peace with non-Muslims are based on circumstance.

When Muslims are weak, they should be peaceful; when strong, they should go on the offensive."

Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami - an ISLAMIC scholar and Egyptian Salafi leader
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/how-circumstance-dictates-isla...

Moslems are evil, because they are moslems, ....because following ISLAM has corrupted their psyche.

And because moslems are happy, to be those who hate truth, and those who love infidelity.

Google;

taqiyya - the muslim doctrine of deceit

How Taqiyya Alters Islams Rules of War

http://www.meforum.org/2538/taqiyya-islam-rules-of-war

Google,
smile to the face "while our hearts curse them"

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"A Study in Muslim Doctrine

...while sincere friendship with non-Muslims is forbidden,

insincere friendship - whenever beneficial to Muslims - is not."

http://www.meforum.org/2512/nidal-hasan-fort-hood-muslim-doctrine

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #163 - Sep 5^th, 2014 at 11:51am

Yadda wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 11:36pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 9:38pm:

Why aren't Muslims on the streets about their religion being supposedly hijacked by Isis?

Soren,

The decent moslems, all around the world, are all [u]silently fuming[/u], that ISIS is bringing ISLAM into disrepute.

Honest!!!!!! Cheesy

I've heard that Hilayly is apoplectic about what ISIS is doing to the reputation of HIS religion. Tongue

I did wonder about that... after all how can anyone claim they are all being tarred with the same brush... when they dont actually speak up and have a group march about the appalling beheadings that we are witnessing all in the name of ISLAM.

now I get it.. its silent and invisible....thanks for that..I feel much better now

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Reply #164 - Sep 5^th, 2014 at 12:06pm

Yes, they are "silent" because you lot have your hands over your ears screaming "la la la I'm not listening to you!".

As is always the case, the condemnation is there, you can find it with a 2 second google search. Just as every other islamic atrocity has resulted in the same unequivocal muslim condemnation, and which in turn has resulted in the same ear covering by you lot.

Of course your meme is flexible - it can either be "why aren't the muslims speaking out?", or just as valid - "speaking out is not enough - you have to take to the streets demanding the terrorists blood".

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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