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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49094 At my desk.	Re: ISIS is a Zionist plot - says a moslem woman who.. Reply #30 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 7:33am Are there bad ideologies?
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Reply #31 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 7:47am

Freedumb wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 12:39am:

There is a simple, and even logical explanation, that rings true for all facts, conspiracy theories and propaganda/disinformation, and it is this:

There are no "sides" whether it be country, religion, politics or teams. The only "side" exists within the human body, the evil soul that works for his or her own interests. Religion, race, politics, teams and anything else that suggests opposition and division is just an illusion, because all of mankind comes from the same place.

There are good muslims, and bad muslims, and aspects of both good and bad in each one, the same applies for Christians, Jews, white, black, yellow and every other "sub-category" of humankind.

Everything is the same same. It's like anything. Difference is illusion.

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Reply #32 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 8:09am

I haven't heard ISIS blamed on the Jews, but I have heard conspiracy theories about the CIA that involve ISIS being innocent of the crimes attributed to them - that they're being horribly misrepresented because proper religious Muslims would never do what they're doing. I have heard other Muslims blame the US because of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan - how do you expect a generation of young men who have been terrorised by war to behave?

Mainstream Muslims are as horrified by what's happening in the Middle East as anyone else. If they deny that Muslims are responsible it is because they know from experience that when one group of extremist Muslims do something awful, the entire population get the blame to various degrees. They are defensive and it's understandable. That is a major problem and one that needs to be addressed urgently. That defensiveness is what makes Muslim youth vulnerable to recruitment.

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49094 At my desk.	Re: ISIS is a Zionist plot - says a moslem woman who.. Reply #33 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 8:12am what exactly is the problem? Muslims' defensiveness?
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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Take the plan, spin it sideways Posts: 7057 Gender:	Re: ISIS is a Zionist plot - says a moslem woman who.. Reply #34 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 8:23am freediver wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 8:12am: what exactly is the problem? Muslims' defensiveness? I am not going to discuss this with you if you're going to be silly about it. A problem, not THE problem.
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Reply #35 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 8:24am

many blessings as truth would have it

alqaeda is now isis ,

the linguistics have been manipulated

however

many lighted beings see through the deceit

and continue to assist the divine feminine

and expose the terrorist shell game and crimes

inflicted upon humanity

Ron Paul - Israel Created Hamas

Palestine has been under occupation since 1948.

be at peace

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Reply #37 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 8:28am

this islamic state movement

in which you know as isis

is another tentacle of the dark

cashed up yes much equipment to validate

and justify war against terror ... these criminals

funded and carried out 9/11 a satanic strike

against humanity which has now morphed into isis ..

just like corporations get dissolved and a new one

springs up yes tried and true methodology for

the dark one however and alas

the divine and sacred light cometh

so be it

namaste

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/ZER403A.html

Hamas is a Creation of Mossad

by Hassane Zerouky

Global Outlook, No 2, Summer 2002
www.globalresearch.ca 23 March 2004
The URL of this article is: http://globalresearch.ca/articles/ZER403A.html

Thanks to the Mossad, Israel's "Institute for Intelligence and Special Tasks", the Hamas was allowed to reinforce its presence in the occupied territories. Meanwhile, Arafat's Fatah Movement for National Liberation as well as the Palestinian Left were subjected to the most brutal form of repression and intimidation

Let us not forget that it was Israel, which in fact created Hamas. According to Zeev Sternell, historian at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, "Israel thought that it was a smart ploy to push the Islamists against the Palestinian Liberation Organisation (PLO)".

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Reply #38 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 8:32am

freediver wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 8:24am:

What do you suggest we do about it?

I don't know. I am surprised by ISIS.

I do think it of the utmost importance that people with a public voice should be very clear to draw a distinction between mainstream Australian Muslims and extremists when discussing terrorism. The Muslim = Terrorism fallacy is as harmful and divisive as it is incorrect.

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49094 At my desk.	Re: ISIS is a Zionist plot - says a moslem woman who.. Reply #39 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 8:35am Do you mean Muslims with a public voice?
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Reply #41 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 8:50am

We have about 100 Australians fighting overseas for various Islamic terrorist groups (more apparently than in our own armed forces). Instead of trying to shield the Muslim community from criticism for this, don't you think it is more important to encourage them to take more responsibility for it? What do you think is more harmful, 100 Australians slaughtering and raping their way across the middle east, or Australian Muslims feeling a bit of shame over it?

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Reply #42 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 8:55am

But all Muslims by definition want a caliphate, want sharia, support jihad. These are foundation doctrines. Only the lapsed or halfhearted Muslims are not keen on these things - but they can hardly be regarded as speaking for Muslims.

This is why they all, lapsed and devout, jump up and down about Israel but are silent about Muslim on Muslim and especially Muslim on christian violence. Muslims cannot point to an internal line within Islam that separates the meek Muslim from the wild one because there is no such line in Islam. Islam itself is the justification for Isis, the mullahs, boko haram, etc.
It is individual personality, not anything in Islam, that makes the difference between the meek and the bloody Muslims.

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Reply #43 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 8:56am

ISIS selling Yazidi women in Syria

By Raja Razek and Jason Hanna, CNN
August 30, 2014 -- Updated 2221 GMT (0621 HKT)

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/30/world/meast/isis-iraq-syria/index.html?hpt=hp_...

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CNN) -- Hundreds of Yazidi women abducted by ISIS have either been sold or handed out to members of the Sunni extremist group, according to an organization that monitors the crisis.

In the past few weeks, ISIS has "distributed" to its rank and file about 300 female members of the persecuted religious minority, says the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a UK-based monitoring group aligned with the opposition in Syria.

Those women were initially kidnapped in Iraq before being taken to Syria.

In ISIS' eyes, the girls and women are "captives of the spoils of war with the infidels," the Syria monitors said, claiming that some had converted to Islam so ISIS fighters can marry them.

SOHR says it could confirm at least 27 cases in which women were "sold and married" for about $1,000 each to ISIS militants in Aleppo and Raqqa suburbs and Al-Hassakah.

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Reply #44 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:01am

Annie Anthrax wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 8:40am:

freediver wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 8:35am:

Do you mean Muslims with a public voice?

No, not particularly. I mean politicians and the media in general.

yet when Abbott calls for a TEAM Australia he is derided for it... Angry

one thing one has to give terrorist organizations.. and that is they all think and act the same...

something us aussies dont do..even when it comes to protecting the country...

as far as I know Australian born males have left this country to go and fight with ISIS...they have had all the benefits that this country has to offer...

yet they prefer to fight with something evil...

yes I call it evil... if someone says JOIN US or have you head on a pole...I call it EVIL..

no I dont TAR every muslim with the same brush.. but I was not happy about the boycott from Muslim leaders at all..

its all about words.. Oh he didnt use the right words.. Cheesy

no thats right he used English word right on the nail... not the usual political correct words which pizzzz me off..

but its ok to call us infidels who should be beheaded... Angry

and lets not pretend all muslims love Christians .... because no I do not believe that either..

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