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Reply #60 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:30am

Soren wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:23am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:07am:

And Soren...speaking out is not the same as feeling responsible or ashamed. It is important for Muslim leaders to speak out in condemnation, but not to appease the wider population. They should do it to reassure and guide the Muslims they lead.

So why talk about the 'Muslim community' if there is no such thing, only a bunch of unconnected individuals????

Typical identity politics. Either there is a 'Muslim community' that clearly produces enemies of this country - or there isn't, in which case why the hell are we giving them funding??
Please explain.

Where did I say there was no such thing as a Muslim community?

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Reply #61 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:34am

Soren wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:23am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:07am:

And Soren...speaking out is not the same as feeling responsible or ashamed. It is important for Muslim leaders to speak out in condemnation, but not to appease the wider population. They should do it to reassure and guide the Muslims they lead.

So why talk about the 'Muslim community' if there is no such thing, only a bunch of unconnected individuals????

Typical identity politics. Either there is a 'Muslim community' that clearly produces enemies of this country - or there isn't, in which case why the hell are we giving them funding??
Please explain.

she obviously hasnt heard of Dr Jamel Rifi...who is doing a great job of condemning what is happening.. and trying to change the SILENCE from the muslim community that usually follows terrorist attacks..

HIGH-PROFILE Muslim leader Dr Jamal Rifi says he will happily buy “a one-way ticket” for any Islamic radicals wanting to leave Australia.

Dr Rifi said the Muslim community in Sydney was deeply offended by comments made by Wissam Haddad, the manager of Al-Risalah Islamic Centre in Bankstown, who said he and his followers would “give up their passports” if they could leave without “being incriminated”.

he is doing more for the Muslim community than anyone else I have seen..... so far.

he is saying things that need to be said.. good on him

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Reply #62 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:36am

cods wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:27am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:22am:

cods wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:13am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:06am:

cods wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:05am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 8:56am:

ISIS selling Yazidi women in Syria

By Raja Razek and Jason Hanna, CNN
August 30, 2014 -- Updated 2221 GMT (0621 HKT)

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/30/world/meast/isis-iraq-syria/index.html?hpt=hp_...

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CNN) -- Hundreds of Yazidi women abducted by ISIS have either been sold or handed out to members of the Sunni extremist group, according to an organization that monitors the crisis.

In the past few weeks, ISIS has "distributed" to its rank and file about 300 female members of the persecuted religious minority, says the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a UK-based monitoring group aligned with the opposition in Syria.

Those women were initially kidnapped in Iraq before being taken to Syria.

In ISIS' eyes, the girls and women are "captives of the spoils of war with the infidels," the Syria monitors said, claiming that some had converted to Islam so ISIS fighters can marry them.

SOHR says it could confirm at least 27 cases in which women were "sold and married" for about $1,000 each to ISIS militants in Aleppo and Raqqa suburbs and Al-Hassakah.

is there anything on the outrage from the Muslim community in Australia on this one bobby??...

I think Muslims here are covering their eyes.

if AA is anything to go by.. as per usual its all our fault we should be more understanding and forgiving..

hummmmmm just like they do.

If you're going to join the discussion, at least try to comprehend what I'm actually saying. Do you need me to dumb it down?

CHARMING for a mod....

so you have not a thing to say about the women being abused????

as that is what I was asking bobby about??>..

whats to DUMB DOWN?

Isis bad. Taking of women also bad. Selling women big bad. OK?

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Reply #64 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:40am

It's in the Australian Islamic Communities best interests to get their people under control because if a bomb goes off here the way Australians look at them will never be the same. They'll be on the outer far more than they are now and it will affect them socially and economically. People will not hire a plumber with an Arabic name or go to a Lebanese restaurant and so on.

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Reply #65 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:45am

If there is a Muslim community then why is it not seen to be doing much about the enemies of this country in its midst? Why is it most vocal about not being a community at all when it is shown to have many violent enemies of this country within it?
Why is it a community only for the benefits and never for the responsibility of being a community???

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Reply #66 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:49am

Annie Anthrax wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:37am:

cods wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:34am:

he is doing more for the Muslim community than anyone else I have seen..... so far.

Well connected with the Muslim community, are you?

sorry I bothered you. YOU are one rude dude... I will comment on this thread... but not to yourself.. and i would appreciate you doing the same for me...I dont suffer rude people gladly.

and dont worry I havent forgotten where you are coming from.

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Reply #67 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:50am

Shakey wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:40am:

It's in the Australian Islamic Communities best interests to get their people under control because if a bomb goes off here the way Australians look at them will never be the same. They'll be on the outer far more than they are now and it will affect them socially and economically. People will not hire a plumber with an Arabic name or go to a Lebanese restaurant and so on.

I havent looked on them the same since the child swinging the severed head....

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Reply #68 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:53am

Soren wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:45am:

If there is a Muslim community then why is it not seen to be doing much about the enemies of this country in its midst? Why is it most vocal about not being a community at all when it is shown to have many violent enemies of this country within it?
Why is it a community only for the benefits and never for the responsibility of being a community???

I am sad that you have to resort to dishonesty instead of presenting a sound argument to support your view. There are many ways in which the Muslim community show responsibility for its members. They support their most needy with financial and housing assistance, for example.

What would you have them do about extremism other than promote moderation? It is the job of the police to monitor criminal activity.

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Reply #69 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:54am

Soren wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:45am:

If there is a Muslim community then why is it not seen to be doing much about the enemies of this country in its midst? Why is it most vocal about not being a community at all when it is shown to have many violent enemies of this country within it?
Why is it a community only for the benefits and never for the responsibility of being a community???

Maybe we are wrong and there is no community at all. If the middle east is anything to go by then maybe it's just a big group of factions who don't like one another. Maybe their isn't any control in their communities. It was a BIG mistake bringing them here.

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Reply #71 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:55am

cods wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:49am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:37am:

cods wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:34am:

he is doing more for the Muslim community than anyone else I have seen..... so far.

Well connected with the Muslim community, are you?

sorry I bothered you. YOU are one rude dude... I will comment on this thread... but not to yourself.. and i would appreciate you doing the same for me...I dont suffer rude people gladly.

and dont worry I havent forgotten where you are coming from.

That would be lovely.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106006 Melbourne Gender:	Re: ISIS is a Zionist plot - says a moslem woman who.. Reply #72 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:58am polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:54am: cods wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:50am: I havent looked on them the same since the child swinging the severed head.... "them" as in muslims, or mentally ill psychopaths? I thought they were following the teachings in God's book?
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Reply #73 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:58am

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:54am:

cods wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:50am:

I havent looked on them the same since the child swinging the severed head....

"them" as in muslims, or mentally ill psychopaths?

well I guess BOTH.. how does that do it for you..?

if I could only tell them apart,just joking I think..

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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Take the plan, spin it sideways Posts: 7057 Gender:	Re: ISIS is a Zionist plot - says a moslem woman who.. Reply #74 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:59am Extremist Muslims have rejected mainstream Islam and the Muslim community.
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