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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: ISIS is a Zionist plot - says a moslem woman who.. Reply #90 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 11:45am Gandy, is your Islam the true one or Sharouf's Islam? Both true? How can one decide? Ask the politicians and the media? Because one cannot ask Muslims as they are not responsible for Islam. Politicians, the media, the police, non-muslims are responsible for the way Islam is.
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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Take the plan, spin it sideways Posts: 7057 Gender:	Re: ISIS is a Zionist plot - says a moslem woman who.. Reply #91 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 11:47am You're a right wing Skando, Soren. Nobody blames you for Mangs or Breivik.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: ISIS is a Zionist plot - says a moslem woman who.. Reply #92 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 11:48am The vast majority of muslims reject Sharouf's version - thats the only thing that should matter S.
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Reply #93 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 11:57am

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 11:48am:

The vast majority of muslims reject Sharouf's version - thats the only thing that should matter S.

Historically his Islam has been dominant, not yours. He acts more like Muhammed than you.
He wants a caliphate like you, he wants sharia like you, he prefers to live an islamic life like you. He is not afraid of his convictions, unlike you. He has taken his convictions to their obvious, logical conclusion.
I think that is the essential difference between the tough eggs and timid majority.

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Reply #94 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 11:58am

Soren wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 11:13am:

Why are Muslims beheading each other? Which side is right, the beheaders or the beheadees? Which side is doing Allah's work? Or can both sides be wrong? Both right?
Personally, I ordered a cheeseburger.
Please explain.

the very name ISIS ...ISLAMIC STATE OF IRAQ.

cant get away from that....

http://www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/the-islamic-state-and-its-terrorism-fro...

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1 DAY AGO AUGUST 30, 2014 12:00AM

ISIS Tactics Online Show High Level of Social Media Skill
THE area now under the control of the Islamic State is so vast it has already begun to mark out and control its proposed caliphate. It runs from the southern border of Turkey to the north-eastern gates of Baghdad.
The United States — and perhaps, soon, Australia and a handful of other airborne allies — are in the invidious position of trying to bomb what is not so much a scrupulously organised force, but an idea, from existence.
The ISIS fighters, according to international observers who are mapping the changing fronts of the war on a daily basis, do not have a grounded physical presence over the entire extensive patch of desert they now dominate.

But for those ordinary citizens who live in these places, they know who is in charge.
As Afghanistan’s Taliban and the subsequent insurgency showed, creating a state of absolute fear assures absolute population loyalty, making the winning of hearts and minds — a most valuable commodity in any war — difficult to buy at any price.
ISIS fighters have full control of the northern Syrian city of Raqqa, the first city to fall to the terror state, and from where Australian terrorist Khaled Sharrouf posted images of his seven-year-old son holding a man’s severed head.

to me its a monster that is growing day by day inch by inch...does anyone think when they over run Iraq Syria that that will be the end of their lust for POWER???

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Reply #95 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 12:07pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 11:47am:

You're a right wing Skando, Soren. Nobody blames you for Mangs or Breivik.

190,000 Muslims have been killed by other Muslims in Syria in the last two years. Thousands of women have been raped and killed and sold into slavery by Muslims.
And you will equate all that with a single, completely atypical crime by a Norwegian, just because i point to islam as the ideology behind bloody jihad.

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Reply #96 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 12:07pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 10:21am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:58am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:54am:

cods wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:50am:

I havent looked on them the same since the child swinging the severed head....

"them" as in muslims, or mentally ill psychopaths?

I thought they were following the teachings in God's book?

God wrote this book & you have to follow it no matter how barbaric & insane it is.

Notice how Gandalf ignored my statement?

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Reply #97 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 12:08pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 11:48am:

The vast majority of muslims reject Sharouf's version - thats the only thing that should matter S.

tell that to the family of the soldier whos head is on a fence..

do you really expect them to believe that..?

what evidence do you have that the VAST MAJORITY condemn him.... Roll Eyes

I havent heard of any outcry on twitter or facebook..

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Reply #98 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 12:11pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 12:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 10:21am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:58am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:54am:

cods wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 9:50am:

I havent looked on them the same since the child swinging the severed head....

"them" as in muslims, or mentally ill psychopaths?

I thought they were following the teachings in God's book?

God wrote this book & you have to follow it no matter how barbaric & insane it is.

Notice how Gandalf ignored my statement?

I have noticed he only answers a question with another question....or carefully plays with a word like measure.... well is it Zero or 100.. as if thats the real point...you have to admit bobby./. you can always tell when someone is losing the arguement..

in this case its everyones fault bar the silent muslim...

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Reply #99 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 12:15pm

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The statement "doing more" by definition demands a measurement. If you never wanted to define what that means, why bring it up?

I thought it was fairly obvious what it meant. It doesn't demand anything. You do.

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The vast majority of muslims reject Sharouf's version - thats the only thing that should matter S.

The vast majority also reject your version Gandalf. Does that matter? They all have their own slightly different version of head hacking utopia.

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People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

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Reply #100 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 12:18pm

Soren wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 12:07pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 11:47am:

You're a right wing Skando, Soren. Nobody blames you for Mangs or Breivik.

190,000 Muslims have been killed by other Muslims in Syria in the last two years. Thousands of women have been raped and killed and sold into slavery by Muslims.
And you will equate all that with a single, completely atypical crime by a Norwegian, just because i point to islam as the ideology behind bloody jihad.

There was a Swede in there too, you know.

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Reply #101 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 12:22pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 11:47am:

You're a right wing Skando, Soren. Nobody blames you for Mangs or Breivik.

Mangs didn't act in the name of Carl Gustaf. Nor Breivik in the name of Harald. Neither acted in the name of any religion. Islamists act in the name of Allah and for the caliphate.
There is no parallel between Mangs, Breivik and Islamist jihad.

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 106029 Melbourne Gender:	Re: ISIS is a Zionist plot - says a moslem woman who.. Reply #102 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 12:25pm head hacking utopia. Well said FD.
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Reply #103 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 12:55pm

freediver wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 12:15pm:

I thought it was fairly obvious what it meant. It doesn't demand anything. You do.

No actually its not obvious at all FD, and it demands a measurement - by your own definition.

You start with the premise that the muslim community is not doing enough - based not on any knowledge of what the muslim community is actually doing, but only on the claim that 100 muslims are engaging in jihad in the ME. And yet while you use the number of jihadists as the sole criteria for what constitutes "not doing enough" - you refuse to explain what the figure would need to go down to before it *WAS* doing enough.

Unless you can come up with another (more sensible) justification for your claim that the muslim community needs to "do more", then I'm afraid you are stuck with requiring some sort of measurement to explain why 100 jihadists represents "not doing enough".

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: ISIS is a Zionist plot - says a moslem woman who.. Reply #104 - Aug 31^st, 2014 at 12:56pm Soren wrote on Aug 31^st, 2014 at 11:57am: He wants a caliphate like you Why do you keep peddling this crap? Its about the 5th time you've said it just this week. I've literally no idea where you got this from.
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