read and comprehend .............

Quote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_view_of_the_Christian_Bible

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 26^th, 2014 at 8:26pm:


Yes, why am I not surprised by this response from Sprint?

- every second post sprint demands incessantly that the "resident muslim" distance himself from the crazies
- when this is done, he is ridiculed as ignorant/blind/stupid about what islam is *REALLY* about.

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 26^th, 2014 at 11:20pm:


that's fine Gandalf. I am pleased you are not an extremist.
there are 30 million Saudis who appear to think extremism is what islam is.

Now I don't care who is right and who is wrong.
What I see is 30 million Saudis who want the rest of the world to be just like them.
And I don't want that.

It'ld be the same if it was a country of 'Star Warsians' or '8th tree from the left' believers. If there's millions who are extremists in those belief systems who behead and the like and desire the rest of the world like that, I am totally against those beliefs.

How can we stop Muslims from smashing up the whole world?

ian wrote on Aug 26^th, 2014 at 8:35pm:


No it doesn't.

For once Baron is correct on this one.

ian wrote on Aug 26^th, 2014 at 11:18pm:


Good. Now maybe you should "read and comprehend" what islam actually says about those texts.

Yes, they are considered divine revelation for the people it was revealed too. But as Baron said, these texts have been abrogated by the Quran, and thus are no longer "used" by islam. The Quran covers many of the same stories in the OT, and in virtually every case has a different version. Hence they are abrogated by the Quran.

freediver wrote on Aug 26^th, 2014 at 8:43pm:


Yes I've heard that fairy tale also.

But for anyone who actually reads and comprehends the Quran, it straight away becomes obvious that it is complete BS.

The absurdity of the compulsion claim becomes instantly apparent by the simple phrase in the Quran "let there be no compulsion in religion" - amongst many many other similar sentiments.

Islam has been hijacked by the hanbali fanatics who flagrantly violate the Quranic principles of free and rational thought - in favour of the rigid ahadith. This has not always been the case - during the golden age the islamic world was dominated by free and independent thinking. There is no reason why it couldn't happen again - through an intellectual revival and applying the principles of 'ijtihad'. In some enlightened islamic communities it has already began - such as in Turkey.

What riles me FD, is critics like you, who spend your life ridiculing muslims for succumbing to extremism and violence - yet at the same time ridiculing muslims who advocate a reassessment of islamic doctrine in a genuine effort to rid the religion of that very extremism and violence. Taking the stubborn view that islam is not reformable and that it will always be violent and extreme - absolutely, never ever - is not going to achieve anything - given the simple fact that a religion of over 1 billion people are not just going to suddenly vanish from the face of the earth. Its time you and sprint and soren and baron etc etc stopped being such spoil sports and lend some support to the reformation movement, instead of constantly mocking it.

polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 27^th, 2014 at 12:44am:
Bull sh!t. The Quran includes  the Torah which is the original Old testament.