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Reply #15 - Aug 28th, 2014 at 2:59pm
 
No Greens-win, many of us right wingers want to stay the hell out of the Middle East. Nothing is going to stop that sh.thole of the world from tearing each others' throats out.

After all, they have been doing it successfully for centuries.
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Reply #16 - Aug 28th, 2014 at 3:02pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Aug 28th, 2014 at 2:57pm:
____ wrote on Aug 28th, 2014 at 2:42pm:
Coalition to settle Afghan interpreters


The Coalition Government will settle about 800 Afghan interpreters and their families who had helped Australian forces in Afghanistan, continuing a process started under the previous Labor government.

www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/coalition-to-settle-afghan-interp...


So who is condemning muslim migration again?


yes, i think thats fair.
they have shown loyalty to aussies and we should repay the courtesy



So muslim migration is acceptable ... well done for agreeing.
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Reply #17 - Aug 28th, 2014 at 3:05pm
 
red baron wrote on Aug 28th, 2014 at 2:59pm:
No Greens-win, many of us right wingers want to stay the hell out of the Middle East. Nothing is going to stop that sh.thole of the world from tearing each others' throats out.

After all, they have been doing it successfully for centuries.



Then you better start educating your hard right mates about Greens' renewable energy. Sooner we end our addiction to arab oil and middle eastern exports, like live animals, the sooner we can distance ourselves.
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Reply #18 - Aug 28th, 2014 at 3:13pm
 
No...I don't want Muslim Immigration. We are sewing the seeds for something really terrible in this Country.

You don't invite the wolf into the yard.

I am not saying that all Muslims are like this. However, I am saying that many, many of them are. They are flying under the radar and getting strong, just like Hitler's Storm Troopers before little Adolph rose to power.

Sensationalist right? No one thought much about little Adolph and his brown shirted followers, until they stormed to power, whilst the do gooders stood by and tut tutted.



If you are a student of history you can see exactly what is happening here. Soon it will be too late, it most probably already is.
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Reply #19 - Aug 28th, 2014 at 3:15pm
 
Pull your head in.

You are now comparing australian muslims to storm troopers.

How ignorant are you.
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Reply #20 - Aug 28th, 2014 at 3:23pm
 
Two percent of the population. Just two percent of the population.

Even if every last one of them - man, woman, child, toddler, baby - fronted up wanting to kick something off, they'd be hopelessly outnumbered.

I just don't find those kind of odds scary.
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Reply #21 - Aug 28th, 2014 at 3:27pm
 
A brief look at our own recent history:
New Terrorist Plot Uncovered


Tuesday, 04 August 2009 07:32   Wendy Larkson 
     
Police RaidNew Terrorist Plot Uncovered.
Raids in Melbourne by AFP and ASIO.

Just when Sydney-siders thought it was safe to close their eyes and go to sleep for a night, pondering the lack of evening gun battles lately, they learn of something worse than drive by shootings.

As they woke to another day’s work the people of Sydney [and Melbourne] learned of a joint operation between their States’ Police forces and the Australian Federal Police, against an imminent terrorist attack in their cities.


Four men - all Australian citizens - were arrested this morning as federal and state police, armed with search warrants, swooped on members of the suspected terror cell this morning in the second-largest counter-terrorism operation in the nation's history…. About 400 police raided homes in the northern Melbourne suburbs of Glenroy, Meadow Heights, Roxburgh Park, Broadmeadows, Westmeadows, Preston and Epping. They also raided homes at Carlton in inner Melbourne and Colac in southwestern Victoria. (source)
 

The intention, apparently, was to attack a Sydney army base:


Authorities believe the group is at an advanced stage of preparing to storm an Australian Army base, using automatic weapons, as punishment for Australia's military involvement in Muslim countries. It is understood the men plan to kill as many soldiers as possible before they are themselves killed. Members of the group have been observed carrying out surveillance of Holsworthy Barracks in western Sydney and other suspicious activity around defence bases in Victoria. Electronic surveillance on the suspects is believed to have picked up discussions about ways to obtain weapons to carry out what would be the worst terror attack on Australian soil.




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Reply #22 - Aug 28th, 2014 at 3:29pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 28th, 2014 at 2:12pm:
GA wrote on Aug 28th, 2014 at 1:54pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Aug 28th, 2014 at 1:28pm:
GA wrote on Aug 28th, 2014 at 1:10pm:
red baron wrote on Aug 28th, 2014 at 1:02pm:
Not interested in the middle East conflict? You should be, that's your future right there.

We are inextricably linked to the conflicts in the Middle East. As a result of long term migration of Muslims into our Country we now have a burgeoning Muslim population. One only has to look at England to see the catastrophic problems that are a daily occurrence there.

What we now have is ISIS the latest metamorphosis of the latest radical Islam cult to take a tilt at the championship for the most blood thirsty western hating cult to rise in the Middle East.

It's too late to shut the gate as we now have young Muslims, embracing ISIS ideals and as far as they are concerned, we infidels are a team of sh.t.

It's gratifying to see Labor going with the Liberals on this one. If ever we need a united front, to deal with these people who take everything that is good in our Country then betray us by going radicals, it is now.

We need to get rid of them and get rid if them quick. I say, allow them to go to these places of their choice but their papers need to be marked - Never To Return - EVER!


What a load of over-sensationalized crap. The Muslims are actually less trouble than are the Aussies. And if we had never interfered in their countries they would be no trouble to us at all.



you are an incredibly stupid person which is why few debate the patent nonsense you come up with such as this.


So you're saying the statistics will show that Muslims are more likely to be criminal than Aussies? And we've been interfering in the Mid East for over one hundred years now, time for us to 'pack' off out of there, don't you think!   


That's a useless comparison ....Muslim is a religion, and Australian is a nationality. What about crimes committed by Muslims whose Grandparents emigrated here, do you classify them as Muslim or Aussie???


As many as 100,000 Aboriginals may have been slaughtered by 'Aussies', I don't blame Christianity for that. And what about the grandparents, if they've behaved 'worse' it would be because of the influence of their new home. How could it be anything else? They would have had their aussieness brow-beaten into them.
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Reply #23 - Aug 28th, 2014 at 3:30pm
 
red baron wrote on Aug 28th, 2014 at 2:59pm:
No Greens-win, many of us right wingers want to stay the hell out of the Middle East. Nothing is going to stop that sh.thole of the world from tearing each others' throats out.

After all, they have been doing it successfully for centuries.


Whereas Europe's been a peaceful place, right?
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Reply #24 - Aug 28th, 2014 at 3:32pm
 
Sydney Morning Herald December 16, 2011
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Three Muslim extremists convicted of conspiring to plan an Australian terrorist attack have been sentenced to each serve 18 years' jail.

The men were part of an Islamic terrorist cell who were planning to attack the Holsworthy army barracks in Sydney's south-west.

Their aim was to enter the barracks armed with military weapons and shoot 500 personnel, or as many people as possible, before they were killed or ran out of ammunition.

Wissam Mahmoud Fattal, Saney Edow Aweys and Nayef El Sayed, who had all met at the Preston Mosque, had weapons when they were arrested in August 2009.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/18-years-jail-for-army-terrorattack-plan-20111216-1oy3f.html#ixzz3Bf67O869


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Reply #25 - Aug 28th, 2014 at 3:38pm
 
GA, I think the last time we had a real bang on here was the Rum Rebellion right?

Now I don't think there would be too many Australians who would like to have a Jihadist' bang on' here, it could get really messy.

Most probably a lot of bewildered innocents who said it would never happen, would be collateral damage as the Muslims promote their promise to 'have the gutters run red with infidels' blood" (a direct quote incidentally from their propaganda)
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Reply #26 - Aug 28th, 2014 at 3:45pm
 
Greens -win, I am comparing Muslims to Storm Troopers. Do you have any idea what the Muslims are up to in Iraq? ISIS are committing genocide on a grand scale to anyone to doesn't belong to the right branch of Islam.

They are not like the Storm Troopers of Germany, they are much, much worse.
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Reply #27 - Aug 28th, 2014 at 3:51pm
 
red baron wrote on Aug 28th, 2014 at 1:02pm:
Not interested in the middle East conflict? You should be, that's your future right there.

We are inextricably linked to the conflicts in the Middle East. As a result of long term migration of Muslims into our Country we now have a burgeoning Muslim population. One only has to look at England to see the catastrophic problems that are a daily occurrence there.

What we now have is ISIS the latest metamorphosis of the latest radical Islam cult to take a tilt at the championship for the most blood thirsty western hating cult to rise in the Middle East.

It's too late to shut the gate as we now have young Muslims, embracing ISIS ideals and as far as they are concerned, we infidels are a team of sh.t.

It's gratifying to see Labor going with the Liberals on this one. If ever we need a united front, to deal with these people who take everything that is good in our Country then betray us by going radical, it is now.

We need to get rid of them and get rid if them quick. I say, allow them to go to these places of their choice but their papers need to be marked - Never To Return - EVER!


i am with you baron
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Reply #28 - Aug 28th, 2014 at 3:54pm
 
GA wrote on Aug 28th, 2014 at 3:29pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 28th, 2014 at 2:12pm:
GA wrote on Aug 28th, 2014 at 1:54pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Aug 28th, 2014 at 1:28pm:
GA wrote on Aug 28th, 2014 at 1:10pm:
red baron wrote on Aug 28th, 2014 at 1:02pm:
Not interested in the middle East conflict? You should be, that's your future right there.

We are inextricably linked to the conflicts in the Middle East. As a result of long term migration of Muslims into our Country we now have a burgeoning Muslim population. One only has to look at England to see the catastrophic problems that are a daily occurrence there.

What we now have is ISIS the latest metamorphosis of the latest radical Islam cult to take a tilt at the championship for the most blood thirsty western hating cult to rise in the Middle East.

It's too late to shut the gate as we now have young Muslims, embracing ISIS ideals and as far as they are concerned, we infidels are a team of sh.t.

It's gratifying to see Labor going with the Liberals on this one. If ever we need a united front, to deal with these people who take everything that is good in our Country then betray us by going radicals, it is now.

We need to get rid of them and get rid if them quick. I say, allow them to go to these places of their choice but their papers need to be marked - Never To Return - EVER!


What a load of over-sensationalized crap. The Muslims are actually less trouble than are the Aussies. And if we had never interfered in their countries they would be no trouble to us at all.



you are an incredibly stupid person which is why few debate the patent nonsense you come up with such as this.


So you're saying the statistics will show that Muslims are more likely to be criminal than Aussies? And we've been interfering in the Mid East for over one hundred years now, time for us to 'pack' off out of there, don't you think!   


That's a useless comparison ....Muslim is a religion, and Australian is a nationality. What about crimes committed by Muslims whose Grandparents emigrated here, do you classify them as Muslim or Aussie???


As many as 100,000 Aboriginals may have been slaughtered by 'Aussies', I don't blame Christianity for that. And what about the grandparents, if they've behaved 'worse' it would be because of the influence of their new home. How could it be anything else? They would have had their aussieness brow-beaten into them.


But still, comparing religion and country of birth is a circular argument. Any Australian born Muslim who commits a crime under your definition would be 'Aussie', not Muslim.
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Reply #29 - Aug 28th, 2014 at 3:59pm
 
red baron wrote on Aug 28th, 2014 at 3:45pm:
Greens -win, I am comparing Muslims to Storm Troopers. Do you have any idea what the Muslims are up to in Iraq? ISIS are committing genocide on a grand scale to anyone to doesn't belong to the right branch of Islam.

They are not like the Storm Troopers of Germany, they are much, much worse.



All Muslims?

You are on a hate speech, hiding behind a keyboard, about all muslims and that makes you a fanatical terrorist.

You are part of the current problem, not part of the solution ... unless your agenda is a religious world war.

If that is so, then come out of hiding and admit it.
have some guts and tell the truth for once.
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