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Reply #60 - Aug 28^th, 2014 at 7:31pm

red baron wrote on Aug 28^th, 2014 at 2:45pm:

Incidentally I have always been against sending our Armed Forces to Iraq and Afghanistan.

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Ditto.

Me too.

I have always advocated 'containment' of the moslem, in his own lands.

I have always wanted the moslem to demonstrate the 'perfection' of ISLAM, in his own land(s).

Of course, moslems are now stating that Australia is a moslem country.

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Reply #61 - Aug 28^th, 2014 at 7:34pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 28^th, 2014 at 2:57pm:

____ wrote on Aug 28^th, 2014 at 2:42pm:

Coalition to settle Afghan interpreters

The Coalition Government will settle about 800 Afghan interpreters and their families who had helped Australian forces in Afghanistan, continuing a process started under the previous Labor government.

www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/coalition-to-settle-afghan-interp...

So who is condemning muslim migration again?

yes, i think thats fair.
they have shown loyalty to aussies and we should repay the courtesy

I agree.

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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 21872 A cat with a view	Re: Not interested in the Middle East? - You should be Reply #62 - Aug 28^th, 2014 at 7:38pm ____ wrote on Aug 28^th, 2014 at 3:15pm: Pull your head in. You are now comparing australian muslims to storm troopers. How ignorant are you. How ignorant are you, greens ? Google; similarity between islam and nazism
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Reply #63 - Aug 28^th, 2014 at 7:52pm

Life_goes_on wrote on Aug 28^th, 2014 at 3:23pm:

Two percent of the population. Just two percent of the population.

Even if every last one of them - man, woman, child, toddler, baby - fronted up wanting to kick something off, they'd be hopelessly outnumbered.

I just don't find those kind of odds scary.

life_goes_on,

Just 19 moslems, in 4 passenger aircraft, armed with just planning and box cutters, achieved the 9/11 atrocity within a complacent US, in 2001.

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The 'gift', from ISLAM and moslems, to the USA!

'Normal' criminal behaviour - in mankind
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1293669294/0#0

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Reply #64 - Aug 28^th, 2014 at 8:14pm

____ wrote on Aug 28^th, 2014 at 5:34pm:

cods wrote on Aug 28^th, 2014 at 5:30pm:

____ wrote on Aug 28^th, 2014 at 5:19pm:

Then you will have to admit to the blood of over 1,000,000,000 civilian deaths on your hands because of your side's warmongering and illegal invasions.

Taking responsibility ... man or mouse cods?

hilarious.. cannot tell the difference between a war when both sides are armed and ready..

to helping people with money, pay criminals like people smugglers to smuggle them into a foreign country..... in the hope we will look after them for life..

and this idiot cant tell the difference.. Angry

perish the thought a greeny would take responsibility for opening our borders..and being the direct cause of these people drowning..

.wont mention the boat loads that went missing never to be seen again..

So you are a hypocrite.

It was the right's policies that caused some of the push factors for refugees to flee war zones and so take risks to reach security.

Most of those arriving by boat into Australian territory are economic migrants not genuine refugees from war zones.

Your belief otherwise is testament to your own stupidity.

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 42248	Re: Not interested in the Middle East? - You should be Reply #65 - Aug 28^th, 2014 at 8:52pm Gnads wrote on Aug 28^th, 2014 at 8:14pm: Most of those arriving by boat into Australian territory are economic migrants not genuine refugees from war zones. An interesting claim. On what basis do you make it? Your evidence to support it is?
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Reply #66 - Aug 28^th, 2014 at 9:31pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 28^th, 2014 at 8:52pm:

Gnads wrote on Aug 28^th, 2014 at 8:14pm:

Most of those arriving by boat into Australian territory are economic migrants not genuine refugees from war zones.

An interesting claim. On what basis do you make it? Your evidence to support it is? Roll Eyes

Many of those claiming to be asylum seekers, patently are ILLEGAL economic migrants and are not legitimate asylum seekers.

1/ They travel through safe 2nd and 3rd countries, seeking 'refuge'.

2/ They have enough personal resources to travel half way around the planet!, to come to countries like Australia. [....if they are truly seeking safe refuge when escaping their circumstances, why don't they travel to the 1st, closest, safe country???]

Many 'asylum seekers' seeking 'sanctuary' in Australia, are ILLEGAL migrants, or economic migrants, at best.

And at worst?

Many of these ppl arriving on our shores uninvited [by Australia] are moslems.

And being moslems, they clearly embrace societal values which are antithetical/incompatible with our own value system.

And worst of all....
Moslems do not come to Australia to become Australians.

Moslems come to Australia to be MOSLEMS, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, and are working tirelessly to undermine Australian society and Australian institutions.

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"[a respected moslem community spokesman has] called on Australian Muslims to spurn secular democracy and Western notions of moderate Islam...
...[moslems in Australia were told] that democracy is "haram" (forbidden) for Muslims, whose political engagement should be be based purely on Islamic law.
"We must adhere to Islam and Islam alone," Mr Hanif [said]"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/07/australia-members-of-hizb-ut-tahrir-say-countr...

Moslem ARE NOT PERMITTED, by ISLAM, to join themselves, to integrate with, the un-ISLAMIC society.

If a moslem does so, ISLAM declares that his Kafir blood can be spilled, because he is no longer a moslem.

And this [above] is how moslem community leaders in Australia have been recorded, advising members of their own community, here in Australia!

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"We only want Sharia Law!"

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"F-uck Democracy! We are moslems! We only want Sharia Law!"

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Reply #67 - Aug 29^th, 2014 at 12:23am

Yadda wrote on Aug 28^th, 2014 at 9:31pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 28^th, 2014 at 8:52pm:

Gnads wrote on Aug 28^th, 2014 at 8:14pm:

Most of those arriving by boat into Australian territory are economic migrants not genuine refugees from war zones.

An interesting claim. On what basis do you make it? Your evidence to support it is? Roll Eyes

Many of those claiming to be asylum seekers, patently are ILLEGAL economic migrants and are not legitimate asylum seekers.

And how do you know that, Yadda? The Australian Government has not been processing Asylum Applications now for over 18 months. No one knows whether they are genuine refugees or not. What insight do you have that the Government itself lacks?

Ah, is this it? Roll Eyes

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1/ They travel through safe 2nd and 3rd countries, seeking 'refuge'.

2/ They have enough personal resources to travel half way around the planet!, to come to countries like Australia. [....if they are truly seeking safe refuge when escaping their circumstances, why don't they travel to the 1st, closest, safe country???]

Perhaps because the closest countries and even the intervening ones, are not signatories to the UN Convention on Refugees, Yadda? If you claim asylum in a non-signatory country you can be punished for doing so, you can be subject to arbitary arrest and deportation and you and your family have no rights, either politically, legally or to earn a livelihood.

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Many 'asylum seekers' seeking 'sanctuary' in Australia, are ILLEGAL migrants, or economic migrants, at best.

And at worst?

Many of these ppl arriving on our shores uninvited [by Australia] are moslems.

And being moslems, they clearly embrace societal values which are antithetical/incompatible with our own value system.

And worst of all....
Moslems do not come to Australia to become Australians.

Moslems come to Australia to be MOSLEMS, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, and are working tirelessly to undermine Australian society and Australian institutions.

Yet hundreds of thousands of them live peacefully and happily as part of the wider Australian multicultural community, Yadda. Probatur botellus. Roll Eyes

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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 16619 In your happy place Gender:	Re: Not interested in the Middle East? - You should be Reply #68 - Aug 29^th, 2014 at 12:25am Legal migrants are economic migrants too. That term does not discriminate between different migrants. People would not migrate here if they did not believe it was economically beneficial.
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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Not interested in the Middle East? - You should be Reply #69 - Aug 29^th, 2014 at 7:02am This isn't a migration thread there are plenty of those here. Please let's keep this to the spectre our involvement in the Middle East crisis with ISIS.
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Reply #70 - Aug 29^th, 2014 at 7:05am

Gnads wrote on Aug 28^th, 2014 at 8:14pm:

____ wrote on Aug 28^th, 2014 at 5:34pm:

cods wrote on Aug 28^th, 2014 at 5:30pm:

____ wrote on Aug 28^th, 2014 at 5:19pm:

Then you will have to admit to the blood of over 1,000,000,000 civilian deaths on your hands because of your side's warmongering and illegal invasions.

Taking responsibility ... man or mouse cods?

hilarious.. cannot tell the difference between a war when both sides are armed and ready..

to helping people with money, pay criminals like people smugglers to smuggle them into a foreign country..... in the hope we will look after them for life..

and this idiot cant tell the difference.. Angry

perish the thought a greeny would take responsibility for opening our borders..and being the direct cause of these people drowning..

.wont mention the boat loads that went missing never to be seen again..

So you are a hypocrite.

It was the right's policies that caused some of the push factors for refugees to flee war zones and so take risks to reach security.

Most of those arriving by boat into Australian territory are economic migrants not genuine refugees from war zones.

1. Can you substantiate that claim?

2. They are genuine asylum seekers (refugee status is unknown).

3. One does not need to be from a war zone in order to be an asylum seeker (or refugee).

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Reply #71 - Aug 29^th, 2014 at 9:31am

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 29^th, 2014 at 7:05am:

Gnads wrote on Aug 28^th, 2014 at 8:14pm:

____ wrote on Aug 28^th, 2014 at 5:34pm:

cods wrote on Aug 28^th, 2014 at 5:30pm:

____ wrote on Aug 28^th, 2014 at 5:19pm:

Then you will have to admit to the blood of over 1,000,000,000 civilian deaths on your hands because of your side's warmongering and illegal invasions.

Taking responsibility ... man or mouse cods?

hilarious.. cannot tell the difference between a war when both sides are armed and ready..

to helping people with money, pay criminals like people smugglers to smuggle them into a foreign country..... in the hope we will look after them for life..

and this idiot cant tell the difference.. Angry

perish the thought a greeny would take responsibility for opening our borders..and being the direct cause of these people drowning..

.wont mention the boat loads that went missing never to be seen again..

So you are a hypocrite.

It was the right's policies that caused some of the push factors for refugees to flee war zones and so take risks to reach security.

Most of those arriving by boat into Australian territory are economic migrants not genuine refugees from war zones.

1. Can you substantiate that claim?

2. They are genuine asylum seekers (refugee status is unknown).

3. One does not need to be from a war zone in order to be an asylum seeker (or refugee).

VERY TRUE, gp!

Dictionary;
asylum = = the protection granted by a state to someone who has left their native country as a political refugee. shelter or protection from danger.

I Yadda, too, am an asylum seeker.

And i demand that the Australian government provide me with asylum [protection from fear] from the threats coming from moslems in our Australian community.
.....because i know that all moslems, are moslems.

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Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

And all moslems follow an ideology called ISLAM.

Because moslems, in being a moslem, are choosing to associate themselves, with a lying, deceitful philosophy/organisation [ISLAM], which encourages political and religious violence against those who do not believe as they believe.

e.g.
Just look at what they [moslems] do to those who do not believe as they [moslems] believe in places like Somalia, Nigeria, Kenya, Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, ect, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, even the UK!!!!

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"He didn't want to believe, what we believe!!!!"

Google;
Almost a quarter of UK Muslims believe 7/7 was justified

Almost a quarter of UK Muslims - ADMIT - that they believe 7/7 was justified

Moslems believe that terrorising

And all moslems are wanna-be murderers.

And i demand that the Australian government provide me with asylum [protection from fear] from moslems who are walking on the streets of our Australian community.

Yadda said.....
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From what i know, from my study, of ISLAM's own texts, and doctrines, i would confidently make this statement...
Every good moslem in Australia [and indeed, every good moslem on the planet], by self declaring as a moslem, is self declaring a criminal intent [by our laws] against local non-moslems.
Every moslem!
ISLAM is in fact, a criminal compact among moslems, to wage a violent 'religious' war against ALL non-moslems ['unbelievers'].
In my estimation, all good moslems do understand what their religious OBLIGATION is, to ISLAM, and to fellow moslems.
Those assertions i make, may be uncomfortable to some among us, but are based in TRUTH, and the truthful tenets of 'faith' which ISLAM teaches.

All moslems are wanna-be murderers - as plain as the nose on your face.

Just look at the religious philosophy societal philosophy which all moslems endorse and are choosing to empower!!!.....

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of [i.e. for] those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:.."
Koran 4.74-76

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him;...."
Koran 3.85

"And fight with them until.....religion should be only for Allah,..."
Koran 2.193

"Allah 's Apostle said, " I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' ...."
hadithsunnah/bukhari #004.052.196

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Reply #72 - Aug 29^th, 2014 at 9:42am

Yadda wrote on Aug 29^th, 2014 at 9:31am:

And all moslems are wanna-be murderers.

And i demand that the Australian government provide me with asylum [protection from fear] from moslems who are walking on the streets of our Australian community.

Where would you like the government to put you?

The Sydney Hilton, perhaps Undecided

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greggerypeccary,

The difference between Australians and moslems, is that right thinking Australians would not sanction such an act [image above].

But that right thinking moslems - would - sanction such an act - whenever disbelievers were the victims.

Google;
Almost a quarter of UK Muslims believe 7/7 was justified

Almost a quarter of UK Muslims - ADMIT - that they believe 7/7 was justified!!!!

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ALL MOSLEMS ARE GOING TO THE HOT PLACE - Allah's paradise.

Coz, the moslem [EVERY moslem] sanctions murder - justifying it as being done in Allah's cause.

A UK moslem community leader, speaking of the London 7/7 bombing;

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KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE
"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."
"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4

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Reply #74 - Aug 29^th, 2014 at 10:06am

Yadda wrote on Aug 29^th, 2014 at 10:01am:

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greggerypeccary,

The difference between Australians and moslems ...

... is obvious: one is a nationality, the other is a religion.

So, how many Muslim terrorist attacks have there been in Australia?

Was the Sydney Hilton bombing a Muslim terrorist attack?

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