cods wrote on Aug 29^th, 2014 at 6:36pm:




I already have, dear.

Scroll back through this thread and you will see that I have proven beyond all doubt that the majority of terrorist attacks are carried out by non-Muslims.

That's not to say that some Muslims don't indulge in terrorism: they certainly do, and nobody is denying that.

However, when it comes to the number of attacks across the world since 2001, they are in the minority.

Stop watching the Channel 7 news, and you might just learn something.

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 29^th, 2014 at 8:41pm:


No you're not wrong. You're an idiot obviously.

red baron wrote on Aug 29^th, 2014 at 3:24pm:



baron,

ISIS in Iraq, Al Shabaab, Boko Haram, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc,........moslems ?




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baron,

It is apparent to any idiot with three brain cells, that no political leader in the West - whether his name Barack Obama, or Tony Abbott - knows how to do what is right.

Our political leaders in the West refuse to confront what ISLAM is.

Our - SELF SERVING - political leaders in the West, continue, to refuse to confront the truth.




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GA wrote on Aug 28^th, 2014 at 1:10pm:


It was only 20 years ago that Muslims of a certain region were asking Australian government to send troops to their dung heap of a country. Wish I can remember which one it was. General consensus was that no one was going to take those requests seriously -- unless requested by the British or American governments. Even then, I bet the public would have laughed it off.

Muslims have a tendency to take their religion a bit too seriously. Then there are those that think they are exempt from punishment, since they perpetrate crimes against non-Muslims. If Aussies showed the same level of criminality that Muslims do, then rape, murder, and a heap of other criminality characteristics would go through the roof.

SweetLambo wrote on Aug 30^th, 2014 at 12:48am:


It seems you have overdosed on dogma and are unable to crack a fat. Don't give head!

If you feel so strongly why don't you volunteer to fight the people you hate.

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 29^th, 2014 at 8:55pm:



no I dont drink but I must have done to be even bothering with you...so keep living in dream world..

SweetLambo wrote on Aug 29^th, 2014 at 9:30pm:




In this thread.

Have a look at some earlier pages: it's all there.

The "Middle East" as such is not OUR biggest issue, we are.

Now what I mean by that, the West has interfered in the Middle East for a long time (I am not talking about the intentions here, because, at least some of that "interference" was well intended, just poorly administered). As such, we have some responsibility in having facilitated the current problems there.

That said, the current knee jerk strong man approach with our own home grown and more radicalised (every day) youth is ineffectual and inflammatory. To my mind it lays the ground work for the self fulfilling prophecy that at some point a significant terrorist act will happen on our shores. Why, because we are being inflammatory.

Firstly, let's be very clear, innocent people are dying in the Middle East, however, that is not isolated, innocent people are dying every day, world wide....

We may not want a religious war, we may not even want an ideological war, however, our part in history seems to indicate that, whether we want it or not, it could be coming our way. These young people who strongly feel the need to take up arms in the middle east are further radicalised if we tear up their passports and try to stop them going. We are to some degree being the tyrants the radicals perceive they are opposed to. Yep, once again, I think the intention is good, but poor practice.

Let them go to their little war, let's face it, listening to reason is not a strong suit for radicals, young angst driven people, or rusted on ideologues for that matter. So reasoning isn't going to cut it - let them go, but make it perfectly clear they will no longer have the capacity to re-enter Australia, either as a citizen or as a legal visitor. Let them make a commitment for life.

Further, if (I think it is still a big if too) we (the Royal we, as in the West) do feel the need to "go in their with our military might" then we also need to not go half paced.

Make no mistake, I am not a fan, advocate or groupie for war/terrorism (it often seems one in the same), but, I understand the mechanics of this stuff enough to realise that a half arsed response will be calamitous. In effect, if we are going to do it, implement a clear and overt take no prisoner policy and use extreme force.

That is if....

Of course we either will not go in, maybe drop a few bombs and wring our hands briefly about some collateral damage, then the media will analyse and re-analyse what we did for weeks, months, years to come...Yet there will still be a "problem" to deal with... Or, we will go in and kill a few of our own young men and women and, once enough money has been spent/made, pull out and wait for the next carbuncle on the backside of humanity to take root somewhere in the world....

It would be nice to think that we (the so superior) West could do some significant self reflecting and recognise our own part in generating the "problems" in the world, however, I am doubtful that we as a people have the integrity en masse or the self confidence en masse to be able to accept that burden and still feel ok about ourselves...