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Reply #210 - Aug 30^th, 2014 at 4:12pm

Soren wrote on Aug 30^th, 2014 at 4:09pm:

You make stupid assertions (although it is not illegal) and then demand proof that you have made stupid assertions.
The proof is everywhere you look, numpty.

So, you can't substantiate your claim?

No probs.

I knew that already, but I just wanted to hear it from you.

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Reply #211 - Aug 30^th, 2014 at 4:17pm

Soren wrote on Aug 30^th, 2014 at 4:09pm:

You make stupid assertions (although it is not illegal) and then demand proof that you have made stupid assertions.
The proof is everywhere you look, numpty.

i'm interested in the origin of the word "numpty"
i agree it fits greg to a tee, just wondering where it came from?

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Reply #212 - Aug 30^th, 2014 at 4:19pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 30^th, 2014 at 4:06pm:

cods wrote on Aug 30^th, 2014 at 4:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 30^th, 2014 at 3:25pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Aug 30^th, 2014 at 3:20pm:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/jul/07/terrorism.uk1

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/terrorist-attacks-quadrupled-2001-article-...

Seems to me that most terrorist attacks in Muslim countries are by separatist or factional Muslims....

"Iraq accounts for about a third of all terrorist deaths over the last decade, and Iraq, Pakistan and Afghanistan account for over 50 percent of fatalities."

The study says terrorism incidents numbered 982 in 2002, causing 3,823 deaths, rising to 4,564 terrorist incidents globally in 2011, resulting in 7,473 deaths.

The researchers used the University of Maryland definition of "terrorism": "the threatened or actual use of illegal force and violence by a non-state actor to attain a political, economic, religious, or social goal through fear, coercion, or intimidation".

It did not include casualties from government-backed action such as aerial bombing or other killings."

"Muslim countries" and "deaths". Yes.

However, the majority of terrorist attacks around the world since 2001 have been carried out by non-Muslims.

can you name the non muslim terrorists and the attacks they have made lets say since 2002 the Bali Bombing..

Yes.

I have done so at least six times in this very thread.

Go back over the pages and you will see my links.

If there's anything you don't understand, let me know and I'll walk you through it.

Substantiate your claim.

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The quran was not written by allah unless allah has no knowledge of science and historical facts. No quran or prophet mohammed existed until 60 years after mohammed's death.

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Reply #213 - Aug 30^th, 2014 at 4:21pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 30^th, 2014 at 4:17pm:

Soren wrote on Aug 30^th, 2014 at 4:09pm:

You make stupid assertions (although it is not illegal) and then demand proof that you have made stupid assertions.
The proof is everywhere you look, numpty.

i'm interested in the origin of the word "numpty"
i agree it fits greg to a tee, just wondering where it came from?

NOUN BRITISH INFORMAL

an insulting word for a person who is stupid or who does something badly
Synonyms or related words for this sense of numpty
Someone who is unintelligent, stupid or silly: boxhead, numpty, fool, buffoon, clown, idiot, maniac, dope, duffer, airhead...

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The quran was not written by allah unless allah has no knowledge of science and historical facts. No quran or prophet mohammed existed until 60 years after mohammed's death.

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Reply #214 - Aug 30^th, 2014 at 4:31pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 30^th, 2014 at 4:17pm:

Soren wrote on Aug 30^th, 2014 at 4:09pm:

You make stupid assertions (although it is not illegal) and then demand proof that you have made stupid assertions.
The proof is everywhere you look, numpty.

i'm interested in the origin of the word "numpty"
i agree it fits greg to a tee, just wondering where it came from?

Scotland.

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Reply #215 - Aug 30^th, 2014 at 4:38pm

SweetLambo wrote on Aug 30^th, 2014 at 4:21pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 30^th, 2014 at 4:17pm:

Soren wrote on Aug 30^th, 2014 at 4:09pm:

You make stupid assertions (although it is not illegal) and then demand proof that you have made stupid assertions.
The proof is everywhere you look, numpty.

i'm interested in the origin of the word "numpty"
i agree it fits greg to a tee, just wondering where it came from?

NOUN BRITISH INFORMAL

an insulting word for a person who is stupid or who does something badly
Synonyms or related words for this sense of numpty
Someone who is unintelligent, stupid or silly: boxhead, numpty, fool, buffoon, clown, idiot, maniac, dope, duffer, airhead...

those are a bit mild for greg Wink

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SweetLambo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1271	Re: Not interested in the Middle East? - You should be Reply #216 - Aug 30^th, 2014 at 4:43pm Maybe we could make one up for greg and call him a Gumpty and add it to the urban dictionary.
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Reply #217 - Aug 30^th, 2014 at 4:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 29^th, 2014 at 1:36pm:

cods wrote on Aug 29^th, 2014 at 1:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 29^th, 2014 at 1:17pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 29^th, 2014 at 1:02pm:

And, of course, how many since 2001?? Worldwide?

You'll eventually have to learn how to use google. I can't do this for you all the time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2001

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2002

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2003

And the rest are here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents (in a box near the bottom of the page).

Once you go to each year, do a word search of 'Islam' and 'Muslim'. Let me know your results Wink

Most terrorist attacks are carried out by non-Muslims.

I've provided you with the proof, yet somehow I don't think you are willing to accept it.

If you want to keep drinking the kool-aid, that's your choice.

I prefer to live in the real world.

Cheers.

so ISIS is not American/Australian/Musliim... Roll Eyes

btw wiki is a bit out of date...

so where did it spring from ?? and which religious group are they doing their best persuading people to join.. unless they want their heads on a pole.

just like to clear it all up thats all.

btw where would you class the Taliban???..

Most terrorist attacks are carried out by non-Muslims.

What part of that are you struggling to understand?

If you disagree with the FBI, please present your evidence.

And, the Taliban is is an Islamic fundamentalist terrorist organisation.

Anything else I can help you with?

on the one hand we have those who will accusing the USA of lying and making things up,.. CIA> FBI..

and on the other the USA is all you quote....

which involves most attacks either on American soil or on American embassies..or ships.. or planes...

just about always AMerican...

I for one am thinking worldwide..groups who have even recruited in ausland.

Islam is all over the world..and most terrorist groups that take ownership are muslim and proud of it..

just because an anti abortionist blows up an abortion clinic in Idaho... doesnt make him/her a threat to the rest of the world..

I have back peddled here and cant find anything on other world terrorist groups.. that could be living in my neighbourhood..

so if you could just name a few as every new group I read about is a Muslim group..

these groups are usually headed up by some one of which nationality would be helpful..

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Reply #218 - Aug 30^th, 2014 at 4:50pm

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/TheList.htm

This list of terrorist attacks committed by Muslims since 9/11/01 (a rate of about five a day) is incomplete because not all such attacks are picked up by international news sources, even those resulting in multiple loss of life.

These are not incidents of ordinary crime involving nominal Muslims killing for money or vendetta. We only include incidents of deadly violence that are reasonably determined to have been committed out of religious duty - as interpreted by the perpetrator. Islam needs to be a motive, but it need not be the only factor.

http://thinkprogress.org/security/2011/09/10/316260/terrorism-expert-since-911-o...

Lot of research needed - it seems nobody does any studies on non-Muslim acts of terrorism... Grigor.. ? What can you tell us?

Point me in he right direction....

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Reply #219 - Aug 30^th, 2014 at 4:51pm

lets be fair.. I am very interested in the names of these terrorist groups that are doing more than muslim terrorist groups will ever do..

and I would like to know how come we don t read about them if they are blowing innocent people up..and driving them from their homes into the hills without food or water.. I want to know who they are..

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Reply #222 - Aug 30^th, 2014 at 4:58pm

Soren wrote on Aug 30^th, 2014 at 4:31pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 30^th, 2014 at 4:17pm:

Soren wrote on Aug 30^th, 2014 at 4:09pm:

You make stupid assertions (although it is not illegal) and then demand proof that you have made stupid assertions.
The proof is everywhere you look, numpty.

i'm interested in the origin of the word "numpty"
i agree it fits greg to a tee, just wondering where it came from?

Scotland.

Still can't substantiate your claim, Sore-end?

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Reply #223 - Aug 30^th, 2014 at 5:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 30^th, 2014 at 4:56pm:

cods wrote on Aug 30^th, 2014 at 4:51pm:

lets be fair.. I am very interested in the names of these terrorist groups that are doing more than muslim terrorist groups will ever do..
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I have posted the links to their names in this thread.

Go back a few pages, and you will find them.

I have all I can find is C&P from America...can you at least give me the post number...I do hate putting you to this trouble but I cant just take someones word for things...I am sure you understand...

well ISIS for instance doesnt mind posting their atrocities on the web... for a start... and they are or at least were very good at making videos... aka Osama bin laden...

the gentlemen that have left our shores to support certain terrorist groups in Syria...havent been shy either...and they are muslim through and through.

I dont want to hate all muslims....but its not easy when they seem very shy about condemning whats going on..

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Reply #224 - Aug 30^th, 2014 at 5:07pm

cods wrote on Aug 30^th, 2014 at 5:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 30^th, 2014 at 4:56pm:

cods wrote on Aug 30^th, 2014 at 4:51pm:

lets be fair.. I am very interested in the names of these terrorist groups that are doing more than muslim terrorist groups will ever do..
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I have posted the links to their names in this thread.

Go back a few pages, and you will find them.

I have all I can find is C&P from America...can you at least give me the post number...I do hate putting you to this trouble but I cant just take someones word for things...I am sure you understand...

well ISIS for instance doesnt mind posting their atrocities on the web... for a start... and they are or at least were very good at making videos... aka Osama bin laden...

the gentlemen that have left our shores to support certain terrorist groups in Syria...havent been shy either...and they are muslim through and through.

I dont want to hate all muslims....but its not easy when they seem very shy about condemning whats going on..

I don't disagree with anything you've said, cods.

However, the majority of terrorist attacks around the world since 2001, have been carried out by non-Muslims.

What you see on the "news" isn't a true representation of the overall picture of what's happening in the world.

And, just to note, Muslims who don't condemn Muslim terrorist groups are probably concerned about their heads: the crazy Muslims wouldn't think twice about chopping off the heads of those who condemn them.

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