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Re: Not interested in the Middle East? - You should be
Reply #405 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 12:39pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 12:02pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 11:51am:

Karnal wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 10:10pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 8:55pm:

Remember, kids, 'It is fatal to enter a war without the will to win it.'

Kill 'em until they know they are beaten otherwise don't bother.

Kill who?

The enemy.

Jolly good. Now that we’ve worked that one out, maybe we can move onto solving world poverty.

You know what you are, old boy?

You’re a humanitarian.

War always comes, whether you want it or not so it is better to be prepared than not prepared. And when it does arrive and you have to fight it, it is better to win it than to lose it.

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Reply #406 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 1:34pm

Soren wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 12:39pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 12:02pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 11:51am:

Karnal wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 10:10pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 8:55pm:

Remember, kids, 'It is fatal to enter a war without the will to win it.'

Kill 'em until they know they are beaten otherwise don't bother.

Kill who?

The enemy.

Jolly good. Now that we’ve worked that one out, maybe we can move onto solving world poverty.

You know what you are, old boy?

You’re a humanitarian.

War always comes, whether you want it or not so it is better to be prepared than not prepared.

Oh, I agree. Should we start with the mosque on my street? The underage marriage epidemic? Herbie’s library book thieves?

Decisions, decisions.

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Re: Not interested in the Middle East? - You should be
Reply #407 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 2:00pm

Soren wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 11:51am:

Don't tell me we don't have enemies any more, only friends whose grievances we are yet to accommodate?

I must admit, old boy, I'm struggling to understand who these enemies are.

An ADF spokesman was on 7.30 the other night trying to pitch the government's message. The message he was selling was that we need to defend "Western values" and our alliance with the US. He repeated these things a number of times in the interview, which told me he was following the government's script.

There was no mention of humanitarian issues, preventing genocide or defending Shi'ites and Christians in Northern Iraq. For the ADF spokesman, it was all about our loyalty to the US and the vague, abstract notion of defending Western values.

All good reasons maybe, but I would have thought that defending innocents from slaughter would be a much easier sell.

We gave up promoting Western values in Iraq when we propped up the Shi'ite administration of Al Malaki. Mind you, we did make sure they privatized oil distribution before we pulled out, so there's that.

As for our loyalty to the US, it would seem Mr Abbott is much more keen to follow Uncle into this one than Obama is to go in.

Oh, and Mr Abbott's polling seems to be improving, so it's a win-win for all.

Another example of correlation not causation, eh?

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Reply #408 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 3:48pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 11:28am:

cods wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 11:21am:

Karnal wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 11:18am:

cods wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 10:36am:

Team Murdoch wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 1:48am:

Karnal wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 10:10pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 8:55pm:

Remember, kids, 'It is fatal to enter a war without the will to win it.'

Kill 'em until they know they are beaten otherwise don't bother.

Kill who?

Soren supports Israel. Israel recently killed 600 women and children in Gaza.

Soren encourage war crimes. Should be prosecuted.

HAMAS killed the women and children by hiding behind their skirts...

Exactly. Hamas are murderers because they wear skirts.

Excellent analysis, dear.

why do you persist in bring any serious thread down to your childish level....

Sorry, dear. I'll try to raise myself to the standard of blaming Palestinians for getting themselves blown up by Israeli bombs.

In a thread about Iraq and ISIS.

no dont bother just start you own childish thread...thank you... shame labor shame

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Reply #409 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 3:51pm

Soren wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 12:39pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 12:02pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 11:51am:

Karnal wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 10:10pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 8:55pm:

Remember, kids, 'It is fatal to enter a war without the will to win it.'

Kill 'em until they know they are beaten otherwise don't bother.

Kill who?

The enemy.

Jolly good. Now that we’ve worked that one out, maybe we can move onto solving world poverty.

You know what you are, old boy?

You’re a humanitarian.

War always comes, whether you want it or not so it is better to be prepared than not prepared. And when it does arrive and you have to fight it, it is better to win it than to lose it.

kamel thinks he is man expurt not sure on what? crap I think... why do you bother with him.??

all you get from him is more crap.. he makes drah look like a champion when it comes to debate. Roll Eyes

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Reply #410 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 4:17pm

cods wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 3:48pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 11:28am:

cods wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 11:21am:

Karnal wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 11:18am:

cods wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 10:36am:

Team Murdoch wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 1:48am:

Karnal wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 10:10pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 8:55pm:

Remember, kids, 'It is fatal to enter a war without the will to win it.'

Kill 'em until they know they are beaten otherwise don't bother.

Kill who?

Soren supports Israel. Israel recently killed 600 women and children in Gaza.

Soren encourage war crimes. Should be prosecuted.

HAMAS killed the women and children by hiding behind their skirts...

Exactly. Hamas are murderers because they wear skirts.

Excellent analysis, dear.

why do you persist in bring any serious thread down to your childish level....

Sorry, dear. I'll try to raise myself to the standard of blaming Palestinians for getting themselves blown up by Israeli bombs.

In a thread about Iraq and ISIS.

no dont bother just start you own childish thread...thank you... shame labor shame

Sorry, dear - just trying to better myself.

Do you think Australia should be involved in Iraq again? You haven't said.

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Reply #412 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 5:36pm

It's my western values like pity and charity towards the afflicted and the odd... Wink

cods wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 3:51pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 12:39pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 12:02pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 11:51am:

Karnal wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 10:10pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 8:55pm:

Remember, kids, 'It is fatal to enter a war without the will to win it.'

Kill 'em until they know they are beaten otherwise don't bother.

Kill who?

The enemy.

Jolly good. Now that we’ve worked that one out, maybe we can move onto solving world poverty.

You know what you are, old boy?

You’re a humanitarian.

War always comes, whether you want it or not so it is better to be prepared than not prepared. And when it does arrive and you have to fight it, it is better to win it than to lose it.

kamel thinks he is man expurt not sure on what? crap I think... why do you bother with him.??

all you get from him is more crap.. he makes drah look like a champion when it comes to debate. Roll Eyes

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Re: Not interested in the Middle East? - You should be
Reply #413 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 7:11pm

This is not just a matter 'of being involved in Iraq again'. This is a matter of stopping a monster which is gaining strength every day, in it's tracks.

This monster butchers women and children by the thousands, this monster beheads victims then parades them on the media.

This monster is every bit as dangerous as the Nazis.

The Coalition of the willing need to get cracking and smash ISIS into the next world.

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Re: Not interested in the Middle East? - You should be
Reply #414 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 7:29pm

red baron wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 7:11pm:

This is not just a matter 'of being involved in Iraq again'. This is a matter of stopping a monster which is gaining strength every day, in it's tracks.

This monster butchers women and children by the thousands, this monster beheads victims then parades them on the media.

This monster is every bit as dangerous as the Nazis.

The Coalition of the willing need to get cracking and smash ISIS into the next world.

And how do you kill a hydra? Every tentacle you remove grows back again. This is not a question of why, but how.

You can bang on about the US, but you’re not committing our own infantry to Iraq. And why would you?

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Reply #415 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 7:32pm

red baron wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 7:11pm:

This is not just a matter 'of being involved in Iraq again'. This is a matter of stopping a monster which is gaining strength every day, in it's tracks.

This monster butchers women and children by the thousands, this monster beheads victims then parades them on the media.

This monster is every bit as dangerous as the Nazis.

The Coalition of the willing need to get cracking and smash ISIS into the next world.

not if you are green senator wishy wilson....he thinks terrorists are hard done by..

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Karnal Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 96570	Re: Not interested in the Middle East? - You should be Reply #416 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 7:36pm cods wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 5:23pm: I think its past your bedtime. sonnyboy. Is it my imagination, or is poor Cods trying to get rid of me? Gee dear, if you don’t want to talk, all you have to do is say. We’re all friends here, you know.
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Reply #417 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 7:39pm

Karnal the thing we have in common is that we are both Vets. Any Vet worth his salt, would not stand by, whilst a monster commits genocide on hapless innocent people. We have to get involved, what do you think our forefathers at Gallipoli would think about this lot?

They would go after them that's what they would do.

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Reply #418 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 7:40pm

cods wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 7:32pm:

red baron wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 7:11pm:

This is not just a matter 'of being involved in Iraq again'. This is a matter of stopping a monster which is gaining strength every day, in it's tracks.

This monster butchers women and children by the thousands, this monster beheads victims then parades them on the media.

This monster is every bit as dangerous as the Nazis.

The Coalition of the willing need to get cracking and smash ISIS into the next world.

not if you are green senator wishy wilson....he thinks terrorists are hard done by..

I would be happy with no involvement and watch them hack each other to death. It would be a wake up call to the west and a poke in the eye for the luvvies who protest against the great satan. No aid, no nuffin. Let the Arab league sort it out.

Negotiate with who ever is left who will be the baddest motherbuggerer in the region.

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Reply #419 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 7:44pm

cods wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 7:32pm:

red baron wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 7:11pm:

This is not just a matter 'of being involved in Iraq again'. This is a matter of stopping a monster which is gaining strength every day, in it's tracks.

This monster butchers women and children by the thousands, this monster beheads victims then parades them on the media.

This monster is every bit as dangerous as the Nazis.

The Coalition of the willing need to get cracking and smash ISIS into the next world.

not if you are green senator wishy wilson....he thinks terrorists are hard done by..

He’s spot on. Heading over to the desert to fight in 50 degree heat until you die as cannon fodder for some brutal friendless regime sounds like a pretty rough trot to me.

A tough job, but someone’s got to do it.

If it wasn’t for ISIL, the old boy might be stuck without an enemy.

For a few minutes, anyway.

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