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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Not interested in the Middle East? - You should be Reply #525 - Sep 13^th, 2014 at 2:30pm Who said it's a minority? I didn't.
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Reply #526 - Sep 13^th, 2014 at 6:21pm

Soren wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 10:19am:

Karnal wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 3:41pm:

15.31, AEST.

BULLSHIT.

The Abbott government is playing the electorate for fools. They’re doing the old security agenda shift to take the heat off their mismanagement of domestic issues.

What other PM goes to TV to announce a security upgrade?

What other PM can’t even specify why our security status is being raised?

The Abbott security game, like Thatcher’s Faulkland war, is a complete crock - but this time, there’s not even a clear threat. We’re not at war, no one has attacked, and it’s all BULLSHIT.

This is so easy to see, I’m.surprised even the Bolt crowd doesn’t see through it.

No I’m not. They started it.

And Red Baron is the biggest cheerleader. No need to be unduly alarmed indeed. Don’t panic.

Alarmed about what?

The UK raised its alert level from substantial to severe in August.
Sometimes a terrorist alert is just a terrorist alert, PB. There are western jihad is, you know. 60, 31, 57, 93, 42 - how many are you comfortable with?

Oh, I’d just be comfortable with an explanation, old chap. I’m easily pleased.

It’s not as if we’re at war or anything. Would you prefer a decent war, dear boy?

Something tells me that would cheer you up no end.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96630	Re: Not interested in the Middle East? - You should be Reply #527 - Sep 13^th, 2014 at 6:24pm Soren wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 2:30pm: Who said it's a minority? I didn't. 60, 31, 57, 93, 42. Hardly a minority. Correlation not causation, innit.
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Reply #528 - Sep 13^th, 2014 at 6:33pm

Brian, therein lies the conundrum. We let them back in...we let them back in....we let them back in.

Why did the Government lie about stopping them from returning. Seriously, Abbott promised to stop them getting back in.

What went wrong?

Now is the time for some serious Legislation to be put through. Labor are onside with Security issues.

I'm sure between them they could up with something that will offer reassurance to a Country that is looking for some where the Middle East issues are concerned.

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Reply #529 - Sep 13^th, 2014 at 6:43pm

Soren wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 2:30pm:

Who said it's a minority? I didn't.

it only takes one car one bomb one jihadist and BINGO hundreds dead or wounded.

100 jihadist in the country 100 bombers ..

they dont really care who or where...

we are dealing with mad people like psychos they have NO conscience whatever ..

they enjoy what they do...

in some case they are never satisfied killing is what their life is about...

yes they too risk death... but in this case they actually look forward to that knowing full well someone will step into their place once they have left for paradise..where they will meet Muhammad and pick up the 70 virgins..

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Reply #530 - Sep 13^th, 2014 at 6:47pm

red baron wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 6:33pm:

Brian, therein lies the conundrum. We let them back in...we let them back in....we let them back in.

Why did the Government lie about stopping them from returning. Seriously, Abbott promised to stop them getting back in.

What went wrong?

Now is the time for some serious Legislation to be put through. Labor are onside with Security issues.

I'm sure between them they could up with something that will offer reassurance to a Country that is looking for some where the Middle East issues are concerned.

stop whineing red.... he probably found out they cannot be prevented coming back....this is the stupid laws .

if they are born here we have no choice as most of them are young... it is more than likely...

do you think Saudi Arabia would take them?>??...like hell they would...if they are left in Syria and get murdered guess who cops the blame...

or the bleeding heart start up claiming we are preventing them from being with their families...god only knows what wishy washy would do with that..he would have a field day

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Reply #531 - Sep 13^th, 2014 at 7:38pm

cods wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 6:43pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 2:30pm:

Who said it's a minority? I didn't.

it only takes one car one bomb one jihadist and BINGO hundreds dead or wounded.

100 jihadist in the country 100 bombers ..

they dont really care who or where...

we are dealing with mad people like psychos they have NO conscience whatever ..

That’s right, dear. It only takes one bomb dropped out of a plane and BINGO - hundreds dead or wounded. Christians, Muslims, men, women, children, farm animals...

Bombs have NO conscience whatsoever...

They don’t really care...

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Reply #532 - Sep 13^th, 2014 at 8:48pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 7:38pm:

cods wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 6:43pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 2:30pm:

Who said it's a minority? I didn't.

it only takes one car one bomb one jihadist and BINGO hundreds dead or wounded.

100 jihadist in the country 100 bombers ..

they dont really care who or where...

we are dealing with mad people like psychos they have NO conscience whatever ..

That’s right, dear. It only takes one bomb dropped out of a plane and BINGO - hundreds dead or wounded. Christians, Muslims, men, women, children, farm animals...

Bombs have NO conscience whatsoever...

They don’t really care...

its the drip/ Cheesy

stop dropping those turds..

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Reply #533 - Sep 13^th, 2014 at 8:52pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 2:26pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 13^th, 2014 at 2:03pm:

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We don't have to watch them all, as not all are involved in any Terrorist activity.
Indeed, to even suggest they should all should be "watched", Bobby displays a level of bigotry towards them.

Come on - we'd have to watch 1000s of them.

And on what basis do you arrive at that figure, Bobby?

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How are we going to do that?

An excellent question. Imagine how much harder it is when it's hundreds of thousands, Bobby.

I suppose you could make them sew a nice Green Crescent on their clothing, to make it easier to spot them? Roll Eyes

1000's is just an estimation.

Do you really believe that it's only 60 as Abbott's puppets are saying?

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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Not interested in the Middle East? - You should be Reply #534 - Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:59am Of course it's more than 60. 60 represents the 'known' expatriates that are fighting on the frontline with ISIS. It's a bit like an iceberg, it's the stuff underneath that is the real worry.
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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 106977 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Not interested in the Middle East? - You should be Reply #535 - Sep 14^th, 2014 at 9:13am red baron wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:59am: Of course it's more than 60. 60 represents the 'known' expatriates that are fighting on the frontline with ISIS. It's a bit like an iceberg, it's the stuff underneath that is the real worry. Thanks Baron. A reality check was needed.
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Reply #536 - Sep 15^th, 2014 at 4:23pm

Our F-18's are primed and waiting for the call to Iraq. Abbott has pledged 600 Australian Forces to the call to arms. Most of these will be logistical support for the fighters.

Personally I can't wait to see ISIS get caned for one reason only, to stop the genocide that is going on over there. I consider that the main reason why we need to be there.

Cods, I don't think Abbott has done a bad job with this, obviously Labor think so too because Shorten has promised bilateral support.

But the question lingers, why are they letting them back in? You wouldn't let a fox in the chicken coop.

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Reply #537 - Sep 15^th, 2014 at 8:40pm

If the majority of Muslims were against IS and all the other Islamic terrorist organisation - these organisations would not exist. The Majority of Muslims would make sure, through 'direct action' that they have no financial and community support.

But they exist. The vast majority of Muslims are thinking it's all inshallah as far as Islamists are concerned. Islam is a slothful, fatalistic religion and the 'vas majority' will sit on their hands, waiting how it all turns out.

The 'vast majority' of Muslims are lazy (like most of the rest of us) and cowardly (ditto).

But they are not innocent just because they are lazy cowards.

THAT IS THE POINT.

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Reply #538 - Sep 15^th, 2014 at 10:12pm

red baron wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 4:23pm:

Our F-18's are primed and waiting for the call to Iraq. Abbott has pledged 600 Australian Forces to the call to arms. Most of these will be logistical support for the fighters.

Personally I can't wait to see ISIS get caned for one reason only, to stop the genocide that is going on over there. I consider that the main reason why we need to be there.

Cods, I don't think Abbott has done a bad job with this, obviously Labor think so too because Shorten has promised bilateral support.

But the question lingers, why are they letting them back in? You wouldn't let a fox in the chicken coop.

I can't wait to ISIS get the ruddy good thrashing they deserve.

We should take no prisoners - just wipe them out.

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Reply #539 - Sep 16^th, 2014 at 7:11am

I agree bobby but we need to send a message that the next strike is "punishment"
WE need to set the agenda.

so we identify as many ISIS targets as possible and wait for the next beheading (shouldn't be long).
then we launch Blitzkreig on every target that can be identified and we publish it on the web.

Arab youth respect strength and will radiate to strength.

having citizens beheaded makes us look like pussies.

it is important the strikes are devastating, immediate and well publicised.

the greens should hang their heads in shame for not being 100 % behind this initiative.

they are true quislings and their position weakens our position, makes arab youth more likely to seek the comfort of the strong , and sends a message to ISIS to keep going.

ISIS wont keep going for long.
I hear they have 40 Turkish hostages that they are threatening to behead if turkey tries to stop the flow of munitions to ISIS.
when the first turk is on youtube, the local turks aided by our military will hunt these clowns down.

The important thing is we publicise their defeat and humiliate them

then they will see their god is no match for US armaments.

Green senators in OZ should be interned at Cowra for the duration of the fight. hopefully they will try to escape and all end up on the train line as the express comes thru

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