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Reply #600 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:10pm

Datalife wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 3:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 3:42pm:

red baron wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 3:37pm:

Are you living on Earth Greg or the planet Krypton...I think you've had way too much Kryptonite for one day.

Your worrying about stats is puerile.

I'm going to ask you one simple question Pec.....

Do you think that Moslems out there support the Australian Christian majority or ISIL which states they want all Moslems under one flag, the ISIL flag?

You didn't answer my questions.

Who told you that there is "considerable support" among Muslims for ISIL?

Where did you pull that figure of 10% from?

I don't know where the figure is coming from ...

Get back to us when you do.

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Datalife Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2405 Gender:	Re: Not interested in the Middle East? - You should be Reply #602 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:47pm greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:28pm: What a surprise: red and Data ran away Eh? From what? What would you like me to address?
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139596 Gender:	Re: Not interested in the Middle East? - You should be Reply #603 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:50pm Datalife wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:47pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:28pm: What a surprise: red and Data ran away Eh? From what? What would you like me to address? "I don't know where the figure is coming from ... " Get back to me when you do know.
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Reply #604 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:54pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:50pm:

Datalife wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:28pm:

What a surprise: red and Data ran away Roll Eyes

Eh? From what? What would you like me to address?

"I don't know where the figure is coming from ... "

Get back to me when you do know.

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"If they’re out there in the high seas, what you would do is seek to turn them back through the agency of the Australian Navy".

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Reply #605 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 5:06pm

Datalife wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:54pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:50pm:

Datalife wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:28pm:

What a surprise: red and Data ran away Roll Eyes

Eh? From what? What would you like me to address?

"I don't know where the figure is coming from ... "

Get back to me when you do know.

As I suspected.

No further questions, your honour.

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Reply #606 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 5:09pm

I would be surprised if only 10% of muslims supported IS. In france it is 1in 5.
Many, most would be revolted by some of their actions. But also many, probably most would agree with their political aims: overthrow dictators, establish an islamic heartland, demonstratrete the possibility of a functioning islamic state, opposition to western policies in the ME, etc.
The snag is that these political aims are impossible to acieve without violence.

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Reply #607 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 5:27pm

Soren wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 5:09pm:

I would be surprised if only 10% of muslims supported IS. In france it is 1in 5.
Many, most would be revolted by some of their actions. But also many, probably most would agree with their political aims: overthrow dictators, establish an islamic heartland, demonstratrete the possibility of a functioning islamic state, opposition to western policies in the ME, etc.
The snag is that these political aims are impossible to acieve without violence.

They've got me. With the exception of the head-hacking and the Islamic heartland bit, I'm on board.

Allah Uakbar.

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Reply #608 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 5:43pm

Contrare Pec, just had a great curry, now, back to you.

I have answered your questions Pec. I have said that the 10% I have quoted as likely to be radicalised in Australia is speculation on my part. It's most probably much higher than that.

But there is a glaring question out there that you just won't answer because it's going to make you look lame:

Ready for this Pec?

Would you say that

A)The majority of Australian Moslems are more likely to support the Majority Christian rule in this Country

OR

B) ISIS' call for Moslems to rally under ISIS under one flag and attack the west.

(Being a little more specific this time Greg) Wink

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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Not interested in the Middle East? - You should be Reply #609 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 5:47pm I don't think they'd take you Karnal they're a bit choosy about whom they pick to cut heads off for them. PS Don't think they give exemptions there mate.
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Reply #610 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 6:17pm

red baron wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 5:43pm:

Contrare Pec, just had a great curry, now, back to you.

I have answered your questions Pec. I have said that the 10% I have quoted as likely to be radicalised in Australia is speculation on my part. It's most probably much higher than that.

But there is a glaring question out there that you just won't answer because it's going to make you look lame:

Ready for this Pec?

Would you say that

A)The majority of Australian Moslems are more likely to support the Majority Christian rule in this Country

OR

B) ISIS' call for Moslems to rally under ISIS under one flag and attack the west.

(Being a little more specific this time Greg) Wink

They don't have to make that choice, red.

My answer is 'neither'.

What part of that don't you understand?

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Reply #611 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 6:19pm

red baron wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 5:43pm:

Contrare Pec, just had a great curry, now, back to you.

I have answered your questions Pec. I have said that the 10% I have quoted as likely to be radicalised in Australia is speculation on my part. It's most probably much higher than that.

You just pulled the figure out of thin air?

Correct?

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Reply #612 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 6:29pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 5:27pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 5:09pm:

I would be surprised if only 10% of muslims supported IS. In france it is 1in 5.
Many, most would be revolted by some of their actions. But also many, probably most would agree with their political aims: overthrow dictators, establish an islamic heartland, demonstratrete the possibility of a functioning islamic state, opposition to western policies in the ME, etc.
The snag is that these political aims are impossible to acieve without violence.

They've got me. With the exception of the head-hacking and the Islamic heartland bit, I'm on board.

Allah Uakbar.

Exactly.
And while Scotland can gain independence after 300 years by a simple vote, Muslims cannot achieve their political aims without bloody violence.
It's worth reflecting on the difference.

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Reply #613 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 7:43pm

Soren wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 6:29pm:

Karnal wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 5:27pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 5:09pm:

I would be surprised if only 10% of muslims supported IS. In france it is 1in 5.
Many, most would be revolted by some of their actions. But also many, probably most would agree with their political aims: overthrow dictators, establish an islamic heartland, demonstratrete the possibility of a functioning islamic state, opposition to western policies in the ME, etc.
The snag is that these political aims are impossible to acieve without violence.

They've got me. With the exception of the head-hacking and the Islamic heartland bit, I'm on board.

Allah Uakbar.

Exactly.
And while Scotland can gain independence after 300 years by a simple vote, Muslims cannot achieve their political aims without bloody violence.
It's worth reflecting on the difference.

You think Mother brought Scotland into the UK with a bit of a cuddle do you, old chap?

Shurely shome mishtake.

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Reply #614 - Sep 19^th, 2014 at 7:07am

Pec can't answer the question because the answer is GLARINGLY OBVIOUS.

Of course Muslim sentiment will be with ISIS.

The rest of us are Infidels, no believers. Do you think for one second they will side with us when push comes to shove.

The enemy is within and it comes from the Muslims who support ISIS.

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