Hey Aussie the Lion and the Zebra what you are talking about it is the law of the jungle.

Right now, the allies are the top of the food chain and they are going to cream that Genocide wielding ISL's sorry arse, until it resembles a pile of ashen dust.

You don't pull  the bullies down before they get too strong, we get what Hitler presented us with in WW2.

Sorry mate, let's get 'em before they can get too strong, after all, they've got a billion dollars in their piggy bank and that will buy you weapons no matter what side of the line you are playing on.

You see, bottom line Aussie, I'm, just not for standing by whilst genocide is carried out.

red baron wrote on Sep 26^th, 2014 at 1:59pm:



No, you're banning flags (flags you've never actually seen).

That'll show 'em!

red baron wrote on Sep 26^th, 2014 at 1:59pm:



I didn't hear you say much about ISIL (aka the Rebels) when they were in Syria fighting against Assad, slaughtering thousands of innocent people.

Remember the genocide in Sri Lanka? Or the genocide in Africa? Didn't Alan Jones have much to say about that genocide?

No doubt you would have taken part in the Vietnam protests, I'm sure.

Are you against those that created ISIS?.....I wonder.

Pick and choose your genocide red.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 27^th, 2014 at 6:52am:



you left out RWANDA...

hes talking about here and n ow pansi....if we were threatened by a famine in the range of Ethiopia I am sure we would all be talking about starving children.... as it is we are be threatened with jihad in this country...it is NOT IMPOSSIBLE.

ISIL wasnt fighting for freedom in Syria...in 2011



How did it all start?

The trouble began in 2011 in the Syrian city of Deraa.

Locals took to the streets to protest after 15 schoolchildren had been arrested - and reportedly tortured - for writing anti-government graffiti on a wall.

The protests were peaceful to begin with, calling for the kids' release, democracy and greater freedom for people in the country.

The government responded angrily, and on 18 March 2011, the army opened fire on protesters, killing four people.

The following day, they shot at mourners at the victims' funerals, killing another person.

People were shocked and angry at what had happened and soon the unrest had spread to other parts of the country.


terrorist groups like ISIL.. which has been called many names......have found a weakness in Syria and are exploiting it..left right and centre.. there has been civil war there for a long time... whos right and whos wrong.. who knows... the point is.. the terrorist see an opportunity to take over at all costs...100s of thousands have left the country and over 100.000 dead...for what?? the terrorists dont care...thats the problem...they respect nothing and no one unless its ISLAM...

and guess what.. when is all over and they have the country on its knees.. they will expect the West to feed them..

red baron wrote on Sep 26^th, 2014 at 1:59pm:


How will they do this? The air strikes have had little to no effect. Obama is serious about not redeploying troops.

If anyone fights IS, it will be a coalition of Kurds and gulf states and maybe even Turks if IS try it out on them.

The West will do no such creaming in Iraq, and this is as it should be.

Does this make you happy? I know you’ve always been very reluctant for us to join foreign wars.

That's right Karnal, the Middle East Countries have the responsibility of waging the ground war against ISIL. But it is very comforting for them to have overwhelming air superiority. An ace in the pack if ever there was one.

Good luck winning a full on battle when the opposition can pull in fighter jet's with one radio call. No jungle they can run into there Karnal. Don't think there's a web of tunnels under all that sand there either.

red baron wrote on Sep 27^th, 2014 at 3:48pm:


So you’re happy now? Somehow, Red, I have a sneaky suspicion you won’t be happy until we’re at war again.

But the above strategy is the right one. Sending Uncle in to open a front against groups like al Nusra, al Qaida and ISIL is just begging for a protracted Middle Eastern war and sure martyrdom for our troops. It’s also a strategy to bring terrorism to our shores.

ISIS needs to be erradicated, but it’s not going to be easy. We’re also going to need to sleep with quite a few enemies to do it. The Assad regime in Syria will be one.

If you thought "we" could just blaze on into Iraq playing Wagner on the loudspeakers and blowing them all to Kingdom Come, you were deluded. Apocolypse Now, remember, was an anti-war movie. It was about a war we lost, but used more TNT in than any other war.

Bombs are not a solution. The belief that they are has more to do with fiction, video games and cable news coverage than reality.

Oh - and crystal balls.

Karnal wrote on Sep 27^th, 2014 at 5:55pm:



Karnal, you seem knowledgeable about the middle east. How long do you think the Saudi monarchy will survive and how will it / or can it, ever transition to a democracy?