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Reply #180 - Sep 16th, 2014 at 11:42pm
 
Soren wrote on Sep 16th, 2014 at 11:03pm:
The Bible is not the eternal, unalterable word of Allah.
That is why both Judaism and Christianity have been undergoing reforms and reformations-christianity being the first reformation of Judaism.
And so no one adheres to the archaic punishments in the OT, and no-one is agitating for the return to the norms and values of 600 BC or 50 AD Judea. No-one.


You’ve never listened to the sermons of Kenneth Copeland or any of the hundreds of fire and brimstone preachers in the Deep South?

Many have called for followers of Islam to be culled like serpents - many believe they are serpents, or similar incarnate creatures from the Book of Revelation. Many have heralded new crusades - a prelude to the End Times. "By any means necessary" is the Goebels-style hyperbole often thrown about in US primte-time TV- rhetoric that made it possible for the US Justice Department to attempt to redraft its laws on torture only 9 short years ago.

Many in the US are agitating for a return to the so-called "purity" of the early church - norms and values completely incongruent with the theme park version of religion they follow, but nevertheless espouse.

I’m not even talking about the cults like the Westboro Baptist Church, but mainstream "old-style" religion. The US had to stop its soldiers in the last Gulf war taking body parts as souveniers, and yes, quite a few photos were taken of US Marines holding up decapitated Iraqi heads.

I’m no longer surprised that someone who espouses an ever-shifting world-view of always absolutely never ever EVER would forget the last decade of world events. It’s not even history yet, but it comes as no great shock that you’d ignore recent current affairs as much as you ignore the Bible.

Your willful ignorance is so mindnumbingly creative, I’ve given up trying to follow it all.

You’re simply the old boy. You always were, and you always will be. Always, absolutely, never ever.
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Reply #181 - Sep 16th, 2014 at 11:56pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 16th, 2014 at 11:29pm:
karnal - where are Christians rampantly trying to impose the rule of Christianity over every person ?



karnal - your last posting was vague, random and irrelevant.
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Reply #182 - Sep 17th, 2014 at 12:02am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 16th, 2014 at 11:29pm:
karnal - where are Christians rampantly trying to impose the rule of Christianity over every person ?



You must have slept through the Reagan and Bush years, Sprint. Only a few years ago, George W Bush came to power on the money of the US Bible belt. Many of them believe in the coming of a glorious Christian New Age, following an epochal battle between themselves and the Anti-Christ - an End Times villain who changes with the times.

Recently, he was Saddam Hussain. More recently still, he was Barack Obama: Babylon in the heart of the Republic.

The aim of such believers is indeed the reign of Christ on earth. This belief is so deep-seated in your own way of thinking I’m.surprised it hasn’t surfaced into your conscious awareness at some point in time.

But then, you’re a Christian who either hasn’t read or has blocked out the entire Old Testament.

Still, you’ve managed to block out a decade of subjects we’ve discussed here, almost daily, so anything’s possible.
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Reply #183 - Sep 17th, 2014 at 12:08am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 16th, 2014 at 11:56pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 16th, 2014 at 11:29pm:
karnal - where are Christians rampantly trying to impose the rule of Christianity over every person ?



karnal - your last posting was vague, random and irrelevant.


Sorry, Sprint - watch Christian TV. You’ll see. Or check out Fox News once in a while for the evangelical Freeedom equivalent.
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Reply #184 - Sep 17th, 2014 at 1:02am
 
moses wrote on Sep 16th, 2014 at 3:37pm:
I unequivocally state Brian Ross is a proven liar on this debate site


State it all you like, Moses, doesn't mean it's true.  Trumpeting definitions doesn't prove a case.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #185 - Sep 17th, 2014 at 2:52pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 16th, 2014 at 3:04pm:
|dev|null wrote on Sep 16th, 2014 at 12:52pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 16th, 2014 at 12:44pm:
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........they are practising "taqiyya"....


which is in the koran.
As is beheading, chopping off hands, beating your wife.



Similar stuff in the Bible!   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin


it is not commanded in the bible.
It is in the koran.

christians don't chop heads off quoting the bible.
muslims chop heads off quoting the koran.


There is no beheading commanded in the Quran. Just like there is no mention of taqqiya or stoning.

Cutting hands off is in the Quran, and it is true that one verse is interpreted by most muslims as allowing men to beat their wives (I have a different theory - discussed elsewhere).

But Sprint, why do you lie?

Karnal just proved that all those things and more are in the Bible, and destroyed your entire argument about "the old testament does not apply to christians" - by quoting Jesus himself asserting loud and clear that he came to reaffirm the laws of the old prophets (ie the old testament).

So why do you keep up the lie? Are you trying to be a muslim?
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #186 - Sep 17th, 2014 at 3:21pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 17th, 2014 at 1:02am:
moses wrote on Sep 16th, 2014 at 3:37pm:
I unequivocally state Brian Ross is a proven liar on this debate site


State it all you like, Moses, doesn't mean it's true.  Trumpeting definitions doesn't prove a case.   Roll Eyes


I know it to be true, for it has been proven!
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Reply #187 - Sep 17th, 2014 at 3:31pm
 
Adamant wrote on Sep 17th, 2014 at 3:21pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 17th, 2014 at 1:02am:
moses wrote on Sep 16th, 2014 at 3:37pm:
I unequivocally state Brian Ross is a proven liar on this debate site


State it all you like, Moses, doesn't mean it's true.  Trumpeting definitions doesn't prove a case.   Roll Eyes


I know it to be true, for it has been proven!


Who?  Someone reliable and unbiased?   Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #188 - Sep 17th, 2014 at 3:41pm
 
Karnal wrote on Sep 17th, 2014 at 12:08am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 16th, 2014 at 11:56pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 16th, 2014 at 11:29pm:
karnal - where are Christians rampantly trying to impose the rule of Christianity over every person ?



karnal - your last posting was vague, random and irrelevant.


Sorry, Sprint - watch Christian TV. You’ll see. Or check out Fox News once in a while for the evangelical Freeedom equivalent.


Have the Christian TV channels and there followers beheaded any body recently, within say 1000 years because they told them they were kuffer like on mass like Timure the lame like the house of Saud, like ISIS or IS or like muslims. NO.

Its an Islamic thing.

They like it.

Treatment of animals by different societies shows how people in those societies treat human life.

Muslims treat animals like poo, same as they treat humans!

Unless of course you a muslim human!


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Reply #189 - Sep 17th, 2014 at 3:48pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Sep 17th, 2014 at 3:31pm:
Who?  Someone reliable and unbiased?


Exactly so.

Unlike you.

Dizzy head.

I know you sent me a pm on how much dope you smoked, could you repeat it for the wider audience or should I just tell the police?
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Reply #190 - Sep 17th, 2014 at 4:16pm
 
Adamant wrote on Sep 17th, 2014 at 3:48pm:
|dev|null wrote on Sep 17th, 2014 at 3:31pm:
Who?  Someone reliable and unbiased?


Exactly so.

Unlike you.

Dizzy head.

I know you sent me a pm on how much dope you smoked, could you repeat it for the wider audience or should I just tell the police?


My, you make lots of claims about PMs, don't you?  I quake in my boots!  Go on, tell the rozzers.  I'm sure they'll waste resources on such a goose-chase, you goose!   Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #191 - Sep 17th, 2014 at 5:20pm
 
Adamant wrote on Sep 17th, 2014 at 3:41pm:
Karnal wrote on Sep 17th, 2014 at 12:08am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 16th, 2014 at 11:56pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 16th, 2014 at 11:29pm:
karnal - where are Christians rampantly trying to impose the rule of Christianity over every person ?



karnal - your last posting was vague, random and irrelevant.


Sorry, Sprint - watch Christian TV. You’ll see. Or check out Fox News once in a while for the evangelical Freeedom equivalent.


Have the Christian TV channels and there followers beheaded any body recently, within say 1000 years because they told them they were kuffer like on mass like Timure the lame like the house of Saud, like ISIS or IS or like muslims. NO.


You got me there, Caliph.

No, the Christian TV channels and their followers have not beheaded any body recently, within say 1000 years, because they told them they were kuffer like on mass like Timure the lame, like the house of Saud, like ISIS or IS or like Muslims.
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Reply #192 - Sep 17th, 2014 at 6:37pm
 
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #193 - Sep 17th, 2014 at 8:02pm
 
Karnal wrote on Sep 17th, 2014 at 5:20pm:
Adamant wrote on Sep 17th, 2014 at 3:41pm:
Karnal wrote on Sep 17th, 2014 at 12:08am:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 16th, 2014 at 11:56pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 16th, 2014 at 11:29pm:
karnal - where are Christians rampantly trying to impose the rule of Christianity over every person ?



karnal - your last posting was vague, random and irrelevant.


Sorry, Sprint - watch Christian TV. You’ll see. Or check out Fox News once in a while for the evangelical Freeedom equivalent.


Have the Christian TV channels and there followers beheaded any body recently, within say 1000 years because they told them they were kuffer like on mass like Timure the lame like the house of Saud, like ISIS or IS or like muslims. NO.


You got me there, Caliph.

No, the Christian TV channels and their followers have not beheaded any body recently, within say 1000 years, because they told them they were kuffer like on mass like Timure the lame, like the house of Saud, like ISIS or IS or like Muslims.


That's a no then, drongo. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #194 - Sep 17th, 2014 at 11:56pm
 
Adamant wrote on Sep 17th, 2014 at 3:21pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 17th, 2014 at 1:02am:
moses wrote on Sep 16th, 2014 at 3:37pm:
I unequivocally state Brian Ross is a proven liar on this debate site


State it all you like, Moses, doesn't mean it's true.  Trumpeting definitions doesn't prove a case.   Roll Eyes


I know it to be true, for it has been proven!


By whom?  Or is this another act of faith?   Roll Eyes
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