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al-Nusra Front captures 44 Fijian UN peacekeepers
Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 7:44pm

The al-Nusra Front, captures 44 Fijian UN peacekeepers to underline its demands.

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al-Nusra Front demands, to be taken off the UN's list of terrorist organisations. Cheesy

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essentially, the al-Nusra Front is saying.....

"We are not terrorits!!!!!

And we demand that you infidels, DO NOT CALL US ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS!!!

We are peace-loving moslems!!!!!"

- al-Nusra Front

Google;
al nusra take un peacekeepers

Google;
al nusra golan un peacekeepers

"ISLAM is the religion of peace!...
...And if you call us violent, we will slaughter these infidels!!!!!!!!!!"

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al-Nusra and ISIS - ARE MERELY MOSLEM COMPETITORS - within the 'universe' of ISLAMIC communities [worldwide] and, on-the-ground within Syria.

There is little essential difference between al-Nusra, and ISIS.

Every moslem, is a moslem.

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

Google;
Shahada, confession of a muslim

"There is no god except for Allah alone; and Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah."

Yadda said.....
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Why is it that thinking people seem unable to join the dots ?

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

ISLAM is a murderous death cult.

Yadda said....
Quote:

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

EVERY moslem, is a follower - of ISLAM.

EVERY moslem, is a member of the moslem community.

And whether the moslem refers to himself as being a member of,
Hamas,
or the Taliban,
or Al-Qaeda,
or Boko Haram,
or ISIS,
or Al Shabaab,
or [in Australia] Brothers for Life,

OR SIMPLY, AS BEING A, MOSLEM;

....the moslem is a member of 'a group of people' who choose to follow a philosophy [ISLAM], which teaches them [moslems], that it is lawful for them [moslems] to seek to subjugate [i.e. enslave] or murder all of 'disbelieving' mankind.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: al-Nusra Front captures 44 Fijian UN peacekeepers
Reply #1 - Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 7:47pm

I suppose it could have been worse. The Israelis might have shelled the UN compound again when it was sheltering civilians, like they did in 1996:

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The 1996 shelling of Qana or the First Qana massacre,[1][2] took place on April 18, 1996 near Qana, a village in Southern Lebanon, when the Israeli Defence Force fired artillery shells at a United Nations compound. [1][2] Of 800 Lebanese civilians who had taken refuge in the compound, 106 were killed and around 116 injured. Four Fijian United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon soldiers were also seriously injured.[3][4]

[Source]

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Reply #2 - Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 7:54pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 7:47pm:

I suppose it could have been worse. The Israelis might have shelled the UN compound again when it was sheltering civilians, like they did in 1996:

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The 1996 shelling of Qana or the First Qana massacre,[1][2] took place on April 18, 1996 near Qana, a village in Southern Lebanon, when the Israeli Defence Force fired artillery shells at a United Nations compound. [1][2] Of 800 Lebanese civilians who had taken refuge in the compound, 106 were killed and around 116 injured. Four Fijian United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon soldiers were also seriously injured.[3][4]

[Source]

Brian_Ross,

AS YOU WELL KNOW, but failed to reveal.....

The Israelis were responding to Hezbolla rocket positions firing on Israel.

Hezbolla rocket positions that had been intentionally placed as close as possible to a United Nations compound in southern Lebanon.

QUESTION;
Why didn't you reveal that fact Brian_Ross ?

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Luke 16:31

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Re: al-Nusra Front captures 44 Fijian UN peacekeepers
Reply #3 - Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 8:45pm

Yadda wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 7:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 7:47pm:

I suppose it could have been worse. The Israelis might have shelled the UN compound again when it was sheltering civilians, like they did in 1996:

Quote:

The 1996 shelling of Qana or the First Qana massacre,[1][2] took place on April 18, 1996 near Qana, a village in Southern Lebanon, when the Israeli Defence Force fired artillery shells at a United Nations compound. [1][2] Of 800 Lebanese civilians who had taken refuge in the compound, 106 were killed and around 116 injured. Four Fijian United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon soldiers were also seriously injured.[3][4]

[Source]

Brian_Ross,

AS YOU WELL KNOW, but failed to reveal.....

The Israelis were responding to Hezbolla rocket positions firing on Israel.

Hezbolla rocket positions that had been intentionally placed as close as possible to a United Nations compound in southern Lebanon.

QUESTION;
Why didn't you reveal that fact Brian_Ross ?

Because it wasn't germane to the point being made?

Yadda, the Israelis shelled a UN position which they knew the exact co-ordinates of and they knew contained a large number of civilians who were sheltering there. They still did it.

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A United Nations investigation later stated it was unlikely that the Israeli shelling was a technical or procedural error.
[...]
A video recording made by a UNIFIL soldier of Force Mobile Reserve (FMR) showed an unmanned drone and two helicopters in the vicinity at the time of the shelling. An Israeli government spokesman confirmed there was a drone in the area, but stated that it did not detect civilians in the compound. The IDF initially and repeatedly claimed that no drone was flying in the area before or during the shelling. The truth only emerged when the UNIFIL soldier secretly delivered the tape to Beirut-based journalist Robert Fisk. Fisk sent the video to his newspaper, The Independent, which published stills of the footage in an article that appeared on May 6.[11][12]

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So we have usual Israel lies and then obfuscation. Israel has no respect for International Law or International Peace Keepers nor non-Israeli civilians. This was one of a series of attacks on UN peacekeepers and civilians by the Israelis.

So, what lies you going to tell us today, Yadda? Roll Eyes

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\|dev\|null Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4434 Gender:	Re: al-Nusra Front captures 44 Fijian UN peacekeepers Reply #4 - Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 10:48pm Those naughty Israelis. I blame it all on Islam.
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Reply #5 - Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 11:15pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 8:45pm:

Yadda, the Israelis shelled a UN position which they knew the exact co-ordinates of

No argument.i Quote:

and they knew contained a large number of civilians who were sheltering there.

There is no conclusive evidence that [in the heat of a fire-fight against Hezbollah] the Israelis knew, or could know, any such thing.

How could the Israelis know that a large number of civilians were located at teh position where the Hezbollah fire was originating from ?

They could not.

All that the Israelis knew for certain [in the heat of a fire-fight against Hezbollah], was that fire was coming upon Israeli positions from an identified location within Lebanon.

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They still did it. [the Israelis still returned fire]

Yes.

And why shouldn't the Israelis have returned fire to the same position, which was the same location, where the Hezbollah fire was coming from ?

I DO NOT CONDEMN ISRAEL, FOR THAT ACTION.

Brian_Ross,

QUESTION;
In the incident that you have referred to, if Hezbollah didn't want the civilian casualties to occur,
why did Hezbollah choose to endanger the Lebanese civilians, by firing rockets [against the Israeli positions], from a location right beside where they [Hezbollah] knew that Lebanese civilians were sheltering ?

I think that it is clear that the consequence that occurred [many Lebanese civilian deaths], was exactly the 'consequence' which Hezbollah intended.

I don't blame Israel for those deaths.

I blame Hezbollah for intentionally and callously bringing down Israeli fire, upon those civilians.

Dictionary;
callous = = insensitive and cruel.

Quote:

Quote:

"We love death.
The US loves life.
That is the difference between us two."

- Osama bin Laden, November 2001

Quote:

"The Jews love life, .....they love life and we love death."

Hezbollah’s Secretary General Hassan Nasrallah

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".....On the one hand, Israeli culture values life in all its aspects, including the sanctity of the life of others. Their soldiers take risks to spare civilians on the other side, unprecedented in the history of warfare. Aware of Israeli inhibitions, Jihadi groups use their own people as human shields in fighting the Israelis.
Over the last few years, these Jihadi groups have developed a full-blown death cult in which they raise their children to want to die killing others."

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"We have discovered how to hit the Jews where they are the most vulnerable. The Jews love life, so that is what we shall take away from them. We are going to win, because they love life and we love death."

Hezbollah’s Secretary General Hassan Nasrallah

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"Our blood is cheap compared with the cause which has brought us together and which at moments separated us, but shortly we will meet again in heaven…"

Yasser Arafat (Maariv, Oct. 4, 1996)

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"Why do other people love life, while we love death and violence, slaughter and suicide, and [even] call it heroism and martyrdom?"

Tunisian intellectual Al-Afif Al-Akhdar

Those "...we love death" quotes, above, were sourced here...
http://www.theaugeanstables.com/2006/08/02/501/

Google;
jihad - "we love death"

Google;
muslims "we love death"

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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wally1 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2055 Gender:	Re: al-Nusra Front captures 44 Fijian UN peacekeepers Reply #6 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 6:11am I went ti Fiji years ago , nice people,Hope they return home ok. There probably there not for a political agenda but to feed there families.
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Reply #7 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 9:12am

wally1 wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 6:11am:

I went ti Fiji years ago , nice people,

Hope they return home ok.

There probably there not for a political agenda but to feed there families.

Why are you so blind wally ?

Clearly the Fijians are infidels, and they are there - occupying a moslem land - only to protect and assist the ZIONIST state. Cheesy

So the Fijians are the enemies of all moslems!!!!!!! Angry

So you must not have any sympathy for them, wally.

That would be very wrong of you, wally.

Very un-ISLAMIC.

Cleric preaches that violence is part of Islam
By Duncan Gardham
01/05/2007
In documents seen by The Daily Telegraph, al-Muhajiroun claimed: "Terrorism is a part of Islam" and "Allah made it obligatory to prepare and to terrify the enemy of Allah".
The article advised: "The kuffar of USA and UK are without doubt our enemy.There is no such thing as an innocent kafir, innocence is only applicable for the Muslims. Not only is it obligatory to fight them, it is haram [forbidden] to feel sorry for them."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/05/01/nplot901.xml

it is an old link, but the news report is kosher.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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wally1 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2055 Gender:	Re: al-Nusra Front captures 44 Fijian UN peacekeepers Reply #8 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 9:55am Your argument doesn't hold up yadda because the UN peacekeepers are also helping Lebanon and protecting Hezbollah in the south.
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Reply #9 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 10:18am

wally1 wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 9:55am:

Your argument doesn't hold up yadda because the UN peacekeepers are also helping Lebanon and protecting Hezbollah in the south.

wally1, wally1, wally1,

I thought that Allah, was the only helper that moslems needed ?iwally1,

It is the hot place [Allah's hell] for moslems like you!!!!

You are directly disobeying the commands of Allah.

Haven't you read your own Koran ???

What have you got to say for yourself ?????????

"Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah:"
Koran 003.028

"O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors:......And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."
Koran 005.051

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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\|dev\|null Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4434 Gender:	Re: al-Nusra Front captures 44 Fijian UN peacekeepers Reply #10 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 10:44am Yadda wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 11:15pm: I DO NOT CONDEMN ISRAEL, FOR THAT ACTION. Have you ever condemned Israel for any of the things it has done?
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wally1 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2055 Gender:	Re: al-Nusra Front captures 44 Fijian UN peacekeepers Reply #11 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 10:57am Lebanon is a multi religious country who's president is Christian. Your argument still doesn't stack up because Mohamed got protection from his uncle who was not a Muslim and non muslims joined in his military campaigns.
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Mattyfisk Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 94326 Gender:	Re: al-Nusra Front captures 44 Fijian UN peacekeepers Reply #12 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 12:20pm wally1 wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 10:57am: Lebanon is a multi religious country who's president is Christian. Yes, but that’s just Taqiyya. Your Moslem is cunning, see. He can change religions at the drop of a hat. Some even pretend to be Christians. Look at Y.
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Reply #13 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 1:50pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 12:20pm:

wally1 wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 10:57am:

Lebanon is a multi religious country who's president is Christian.

Yes, but that’s just Taqiyya. Your Moslem is cunning, see. He can change religions at the drop of a hat. Some even pretend to be Christians.

Bloody oath it's taqiyya.

The Lebanese Prime Minister Tammam Salam is a Sunni muslim.

Walid is just showing how you need an IQ of <80 to be a muslim

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Reply #14 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 4:05pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 1:50pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 12:20pm:

wally1 wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 10:57am:

Lebanon is a multi religious country who's president is Christian.

Yes, but that’s just Taqiyya. Your Moslem is cunning, see. He can change religions at the drop of a hat. Some even pretend to be Christians.

Bloody oath it's taqiyya.

The Lebanese Prime Minister Tammam Salam is a Sunni muslim.

Walid is just showing how you need an IQ of <80 to be a muslim

Mr Salam just got voted in, previous president was Mr Suleiman a christian who was there for 6 years.

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