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Freedumb Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1101 WA Gender:	Re: The age of aquarius Reply #15 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 4:29pm A lot of people equate "preparing for death" with writing out a will Funny how many people would rather fear and ignore the idea of death, shove it to the back of their minds. I am intrigued by mystery, and death is the ultimate of mysteries.
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Reply #16 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 8:12pm

On meditation: is it true that you need to have a completely/green diet to successfully meditate? This is something that is very hard to do unless you grow your own fruit/vegetables.

And Taipan: you didn't answer my question.

do you believe in aliens, or not? And why don't you think it is significant in regard to the NWO? In my research I've come across people saying that the alien agenda is just another distraction, which is plausible enough. But others say that the aliens are working with the Illuminati.

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Reply #17 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 9:38pm

Freedumb wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 8:12pm:

On meditation: is it true that you need to have a completely/green diet to successfully meditate? This is something that is very hard to do unless you grow your own fruit/vegetables.

And Taipan: you didn't answer my question.

do you believe in aliens, or not? And why don't you think it is significant in regard to the NWO? In my research I've come across people saying that the alien agenda is just another distraction, which is plausible enough. But others say that the aliens are working with the Illuminati.

No I don't believe in the whole alien thing. And yes its a distraction. Although after watching a video by a man called Lloyd Pye I did start seriously thinking about the possibility. As far as 'alien' flying craft are concerned I do believe they exist but I believe they belong to the elite, not aliens.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: The age of aquarius Reply #18 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 9:53pm And of course Aborigines were VERY Zen kabbalists!!!! Gawd, you are ludicrous, PB. 'It's like anything, innit?' [quote author=Karnal link=1409741579/13#13 date=1409753706]
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Reply #19 - Sep 4^th, 2014 at 11:29pm

Soren wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 9:53pm:

And of course Aborigines were VERY Zen kabbalists!!!!

Gawd, you are ludicrous, PB. 'It's like anything, innit?'

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Not at all. I’ve seen the paintings with my own eyes.

I’ve heard that Pacific Islanders also had a version of the Tree of Life with the ten sephiroth. Apparently they used it in navigation.

The Jewish Kabbalah is quite different. Jews did not use symbols - idolatry. "Kabbalah" literally means word of mouth - "the word of God" (or names of God), but also a system of passing knowledge down from one generation to the other.

The Golden Dawn created the visual representation of the Tree of Life by meditating on Gnostic and Medieval Christian ideas. "Sephiroth" is the Greek for sphere. The names of these spheres, from Kether to Malkuth, correspond to Jewish ideas of creation, through varying dimensions.

I met the guy who painted the Aboriginal Tree of Life. He didn’t say much, but told me his father taught the picture to him. I doubt very much that he had any knowledge of the Western mystery traditions. I doubt he had much of a Western education at all.

His picture was almost identical in form to the one Taipan posted below.

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Reply #20 - Sep 5^th, 2014 at 1:52am

Karnal wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 12:15am:

Taipan wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 10:29pm:

Freedumb wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2014 at 10:20pm:

I gathered as much. It's like religion, it is all pretty much rehashes of each other, throw in a few different names, different words, etc. But I think there are a lot of hints and good pointers throughout all of the literature, it's just a matter of discernment and wading through the garbage to find something worthy or valuable.

Don't get me wrong; the Kabbalah when used with Astrology and the Tarot is brilliant for helping a person know and understand more about themselves.

The Tree of Life is like a map of the universe and corresponds to so many things in life you'll be surprised.

The Tree of Life glyph can be used to show the faculties of the mind, the human body, the solar system and anything in life be it animals, plants, herbs, incenses, metals, wood etc... can be found to correspond to at least one of the Sephiroth.

Take the fifth sephiroth for example, Geburah; it corresponds to the following; the number 5, the colour red, Mars, war, revolution, energy, tobacco, pine wood, iron, horses, and many more and the same goes for all the other sephiroth. Many practicing magicians use the Kabbalah for their rituals as well as other sources like grimoires etc...

Buddhism on the other hand is where you've had enough of the illusion of life and want complete liberation. I rate Buddhism above all other systems.

Me too, but you’ll be pleased to know Australian Aboriginals also used a form of the Kabbalah.

Ancient White Europeans had their own tree of life called

Yggdrasil ----

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Reply #21 - Sep 5^th, 2014 at 2:00am

It should also be noted that the actual origin of the Kabalah and its Tree of Life is a controversial matter. Personally I think it came out of Babylon with the Talmud. Although the kabbalah was from an oral tradition the tree of life as it is today, which seems to be complete, is probably not more than a couple of hundred years old.

One thing I find to be incomplete is the planetary correspondences. Traditionally Saturn is in the third, the second sephiroth is the zodiac and kether is the primum mobile or something like that. I reckon Uranus belongs in the third, Neptune in the second and Pluto(and Charon) in the first. Saturn belongs to both Daath and the third sephiroth. Keep in mind im not disagreeing with the traditional attributions.

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Reply #22 - Sep 5^th, 2014 at 2:08am

In reguard to the Age of Aquarius the Elites whose plans run by an astrological script believe that nobody of the 'lesser types', i.e. the general public, are allowed to pass on into the Age of Aquarius. By then most of humanity will have been killed off.

Aquarius begins some time around the years 2150 and 2160. By that time the elite will have their NWO-Utopia with only about 500 million people living on the planet and you can bet the elite will bring in the new age with much ceremony on that one first day of the first year of Aquarius and they will refer to that year as "Year Zero". That's when history will begin 'again' as far as they're concerned.

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Reply #23 - Sep 5^th, 2014 at 11:04am

Taipan wrote on Sep 5^th, 2014 at 2:00am:

It should also be noted that the actual origin of the Kabalah and its Tree of Life is a controversial matter. Personally I think it came out of Babylon with the Talmud. Although the kabbalah was from an oral tradition the tree of life as it is today, which seems to be complete, is probably not more than a couple of hundred years old.

One thing I find to be incomplete is the planetary correspondences. Traditionally Saturn is in the third, the second sephiroth is the zodiac and kether is the primum mobile or something like that. I reckon Uranus belongs in the third, Neptune in the second and Pluto(and Charon) in the first. Saturn belongs to both Daath and the third sephiroth. Keep in mind im not disagreeing with the traditional attributions.

Maybe, but it was extremely ambitious of Waite, Crowley et al to try to find a universal attribution for everything - a very modern impulse.

Yes - the Jews got this info from Babylon and Egypt. Apparently, Moses was an Egyptian initiate. The whole burning bush thing is hardly meant to be taken literally. Much of the Torah is symbolic. The Jews have an exoteric, or historical, tradition, and an esoteric one, laden with symbols and metaphor.

I don't know a lot about astrology, but I'm hesitant to pin too much down. Pluto, for example, is a recent discovery. More recently still, it's been found not to be a planet at all.

The Golden Dawn's attempts to map the esoteric traditions is admirable, but a very rational, literalist exercise. I'd prefer to keep it simple - like Buddhism. Ultimately, we're aiming beyond the world of forms.

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Reply #24 - Sep 5^th, 2014 at 12:29pm

Taipan wrote on Sep 5^th, 2014 at 2:08am:

In reguard to the Age of Aquarius the Elites whose plans run by an astrological script believe that nobody of the 'lesser types', i.e. the general public, are allowed to pass on into the Age of Aquarius. By then most of humanity will have been killed off.

Aquarius begins some time around the years 2150 and 2160. By that time the elite will have their NWO-Utopia with only about 500 million people living on the planet and you can bet the elite will bring in the new age with much ceremony on that one first day of the first year of Aquarius and they will refer to that year as "Year Zero". That's when history will begin 'again' as far as they're concerned.

There is no concensus whatsoever on the Age of Aquarius dates, and this is despite modern astronomy and the invention of the computer. Various estimates are thousands of years apart.

However, there are signs of a newly emerging era in human history. Knowledge based on reason is increasingly surpassing knowledge based on faith. Systems of knowledge are increasingly required to be transparent rather than authorized by a trusted body of knowledge holders.

I wonder whether this is the dawning of the Age of Aquarius, or the dawning of the Vedic "great age" of Kali Yuga.

At present, no one really knows.

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Taipan Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1091 SouthWest Sydney Gender:	Re: The age of aquarius Reply #25 - Sep 5^th, 2014 at 7:05pm The Elite know the date of the beginning of the age of Aquarius. That you can be sure of. When it comes to astrology they know what they're doing.
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Reply #26 - Sep 5^th, 2014 at 9:56pm

Taipan wrote on Sep 5^th, 2014 at 2:08am:

In reguard to the Age of Aquarius the Elites whose plans run by an astrological script believe that nobody of the 'lesser types', i.e. the general public, are allowed to pass on into the Age of Aquarius. By then most of humanity will have been killed off.

Aquarius begins some time around the years 2150 and 2160. By that time the elite will have their NWO-Utopia with only about 500 million people living on the planet and you can bet the elite will bring in the new age with much ceremony on that one first day of the first year of Aquarius and they will refer to that year as "Year Zero". That's when history will begin 'again' as far as they're concerned.

That's what I suspected. They have a secret knowledge that the regular Joe like you and me do not know, and have made it difficult for us to find.

They worship the stars and the planet. That's why they destroyed most of the important history and burned certain books throughout the years. We only have hints and pieces of the puzzle.

Regarding to the date of "the age of Aquarius" it is all over the place. Some even say it has already begun, 2012 was a popular one. Another said it started in the 60's sometimes. I think it is very deliberate that nobody knows for certain when it is, but I think it's important.

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Reply #27 - Sep 5^th, 2014 at 10:05pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 11:29pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 4^th, 2014 at 9:53pm:

And of course Aborigines were VERY Zen kabbalists!!!!

Gawd, you are ludicrous, PB. 'It's like anything, innit?'

[quote author=Karnal link=1409741579/13#13 date=1409753706]

Not at all. I’ve seen the paintings with my own eyes.

I’ve heard that Pacific Islanders also had a version of the Tree of Life with the ten sephiroth. Apparently they used it in navigation.

The Jewish Kabbalah is quite different. Jews did not use symbols - idolatry. "Kabbalah" literally means word of mouth - "the word of God" (or names of God), but also a system of passing knowledge down from one generation to the other.

The Golden Dawn created the visual representation of the Tree of Life by meditating on Gnostic and Medieval Christian ideas. "Sephiroth" is the Greek for sphere. The names of these spheres, from Kether to Malkuth, correspond to Jewish ideas of creation, through varying dimensions.

I met the guy who painted the Aboriginal Tree of Life. He didn’t say much, but told me his father taught the picture to him. I doubt very much that he had any knowledge of the Western mystery traditions. I doubt he had much of a Western education at all.

His picture was almost identical in form to the one Taipan posted below.

It leads me to believe that the earliest civilisations knew the knowledge that is "forbidden". So many different civilisations have learnt very similar things, yet they weren't connected and probably weren't even aware of each other?
It's truly amazing.

Taipan: Are you familiar with William Cooper? He believed that the elite use holographic images to orchestrate the appearance of UFOs in the sky.
It's just so hard to believe what is right but it's up to our own discretion. What I find so curious is David Icke; he is pretty full on with the reptilian Illuminati idea, and usually whistleblowers or people with certain information are usually silenced. I learnt that Icke earns millions from his books, speeches and DVDs. I also find it interesting that some of his speeches can last up to 9 hours!! Talk about TRANCE and mind control, especially when I've seen him use the Masonic hand signs. It leads me to believe that he is part of the agenda.

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Reply #28 - Sep 5^th, 2014 at 10:40pm

Taipan wrote on Sep 5^th, 2014 at 7:05pm:

The Elite know the date of the beginning of the age of Aquarius. That you can be sure of. When it comes to astrology they know what they're doing.

The Elite who’ve written books on this, largely disagree.

Quite a few Elite predicted things would happen in 2012. We still have one of them posting here.

The Elite are not as Elite as you think they are, Taipan. The Elite make mistakes like everyone else.

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Reply #29 - Sep 5^th, 2014 at 10:59pm

Karnal wrote on Sep 5^th, 2014 at 10:40pm:

Taipan wrote on Sep 5^th, 2014 at 7:05pm:

The Elite know the date of the beginning of the age of Aquarius. That you can be sure of. When it comes to astrology they know what they're doing.

The Elite who’ve written books on this, largely disagree.

Quite a few Elite predicted things would happen in 2012. We still have one of them posting here.

The Elite are not as Elite as you think they are, Taipan. The Elite make mistakes like everyone else.

The first one they made was that assuming every single human being is stupid.

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And contrary-wise - what it is, it wouldn't be.
And what it wouldn't be, it would.
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