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Reply #30 - Sep 6^th, 2014 at 9:01am

St George of the Garden wrote on Sep 6^th, 2014 at 8:33am:

Did we not rush to sign some stupid FTA, with Japan or Korea, that let them export cars to Australia with zero tariff? (Of course, Aussie exports were very limited under this stupid FTA!) That is what caused GM to leave I believe.

I am beginning to think we need to reassess our tariff policy—why should Riverland orange growers have to go broke because Brazil is dumping OJ concentrate here? Have to unwind stupid neoconservatism!

Actually Riverland growers in SA are doing quite well exporting fresh fruit to Asia and the US.

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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Auto Industry Blasts Pointless Reform Reply #31 - Sep 6^th, 2014 at 9:19am Are they? Last I heard it was all doom and gloom and tree pulling. . .if they are exporting to China good on them and thanks should be given to PM Gilard who negotiated to have the $A freely convertible into the Chinese currency.
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Reply #32 - Sep 6^th, 2014 at 9:24am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 6^th, 2014 at 5:11am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 5^th, 2014 at 5:39pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2014 at 8:48am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 5^th, 2014 at 8:19am:

there is no Australian car Industry any more ....Abbotts screwed that up All we have left are shops that sell impoted cars ... we can buy anything else from overseas, why not cars too? We've been getting ripped off for years.

I'm happy to have protections if we are protecting our industry, but now that the industry is finished, why should consumers pay more?

ford and Mitsubishi left under labor. GMH decided to do so under labor and Toyota were fed up with unions destroying their viability - under labor - and when GMH left, they followed.

get over it.

By the way, as usual, your facts are wrong ...GM did not decide to leave under labor, they decided to leave in December ... Abbott was the PM

If you honestly believe a global car manufacturing giant like GMH was struck by so much trouble between September and December last year that they decided to cease manufacturing here, you truly are delusional in every sense of the word. The truth is that GMH had made it's decision well before Abbott became PM, due to Labor policy and Union militancy.

due to Labor policy and Union militancy

They have specifically stated that neither of these points were relevant.

But Joe Hockey did tell them to rack off a few days before they announced their decision and this was probably the clincher.

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Re: Auto Industry Blasts Pointless Reform
Reply #33 - Sep 6^th, 2014 at 9:24am

St George of the Garden wrote on Sep 6^th, 2014 at 9:19am:

Are they? Last I heard it was all doom and gloom and tree pulling. . .if they are exporting to China good on them and thanks should be given to PM Gilard who negotiated to have the $A freely convertible into the Chinese currency.

Having said that I do get your point...reduced and zero tariffs with countries that continue to screw us over is pretty stupid.

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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: Auto Industry Blasts Pointless Reform Reply #34 - Sep 6^th, 2014 at 9:31am It was Howards Tarrif reductions that slowly crippled car industry, it's all good though, Tony has said they will all be re-trained, to do what exactly, well even the LNP cant answer that one, good timing with unemployment and inflation rapidly rising.
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Reply #35 - Sep 6^th, 2014 at 9:32am

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Most reform is pointless these days.

It is primarily used to justify the existence of management or any decision making position.

Most industrial reform I have seen mainly comes in the form of a move back to something which had previously been seen to have failed and goes on to do so again while achieving management bonuses all round. This then goes on to a second round of reform required to fix what they have done by putting things back to the way it was previously working (with a different name) resulting a another round of well deserved management bonuses.

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Re: Auto Industry Blasts Pointless Reform
Reply #36 - Sep 6^th, 2014 at 9:54am

St George of the Garden wrote on Sep 6^th, 2014 at 8:33am:

Did we not rush to sign some stupid FTA, with Japan or Korea, that let them export cars to Australia with zero tariff? (Of course, Aussie exports were very limited under this stupid FTA!) That is what caused GM to leave I believe.

I am beginning to think we need to reassess our tariff policy—why should Riverland orange growers have to go broke because Brazil is dumping OJ concentrate here? Have to unwind stupid neoconservatism!

that FTA that allows Japan to sell whatever they want here, also prevents Aussie manufacturers from selling Aussie made gearboxes in Japan

why does their industry get protection whilst ours gets the heave ho?

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Auto Industry Blasts Pointless Reform Reply #37 - Sep 6^th, 2014 at 10:00am zero tariffs with countries with similar or higher living standards and pay and conditions to ours and also with zero tariffs makes sense..otherwise we are just screwing ourselves over.
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