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Son, tell the Caliphate they're dreamin'
Sep 11th, 2014 at 10:00am
 
IS or ISIL or the Caliphate, whatever is the label du jour, they're doomed.

The reason is simply that every power centre in the Middle East will oppose them. There is not a government, princely head, mainstream Islamic branch, army officer corps or any other current holder of power that does not feel threatened by them.

They might get recruits for their ragtail & raghead guerrilla forces but eventually the weight of opposition will tell.

They've had it.
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Reply #1 - Sep 16th, 2014 at 3:10pm
 
"Thirty countries have pledged to help Iraq in the fight the al-Qaeda breakaway group ISIL "by any means necessary", as leaders gathered to discuss their strategy.

French president Francois Hollande called for a global response to counter ISIL on Monday, as he opened a conference on Iraq, bringing together members of a US-led coalition.

"[The threat] is global so the response must be global," the French leader said, at a Paris conference aimed at coordinating a strategy against the group, which controls parts of northern Iraq and Syria.

   
 
"Foreign ministers from the main European states, the five permanent members of the UN Security Council, Iraq's neighbours and Gulf Arab states Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and the UAE, are in Paris to discuss broad political, security and humanitarian aspects of tackling ISIL."

As I said, they've had it . . .eventually.
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Reply #2 - Sep 16th, 2014 at 3:17pm
 

there'll be another similar group after this one.
there have been the same before.

Only when every koran is burnt and every mosque destroyed will there be no more groups such as this.
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Reply #3 - Sep 16th, 2014 at 3:35pm
 
Somewhere around 15,000 to 17,000 nutjobs stuck out in the desert in two of the world's worst shitholes  and armed with equipment that would have your average drunken Russian separatist rolling on the ground laughing.

In numbers they barely rate when it comes to previous "hordes" that were said to threaten western civilisation and they're armed with equipment that would have your average drunken Russian separatist rolling on the ground laughing, yet now the western world has a collective shitfit?

It's not like they're doing anything new when it comes to barbarism... nothing that hasn't previously generated a collective yawn when it's happened elsewhere previously.

You have to wonder why suddenly all the excitement.
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Reply #4 - Sep 16th, 2014 at 3:36pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 16th, 2014 at 3:17pm:
there'll be another similar group after this one.
there have been the same before.

Only when every koran is burnt and every mosque destroyed will there be no more groups such as this.


You forgot the "when every last Muslim is killed or made to convert" bit.
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Reply #5 - Sep 16th, 2014 at 3:39pm
 
Life_goes_on wrote on Sep 16th, 2014 at 3:35pm:
Somewhere around 15,000 to 17,000 nutjobs stuck out in the desert in two of the world's worst shitholes  and armed with equipment that would have your average drunken Russian separatist rolling on the ground laughing.

In numbers they barely rate when it comes to previous "hordes" that were said to threaten western civilisation and they're armed with equipment that would have your average drunken Russian separatist rolling on the ground laughing, yet now the western world has a collective shitfit?

It's not like they're doing anything new when it comes to barbarism... nothing that hasn't previously generated a collective yawn when it's happened elsewhere previously.

You have to wonder why suddenly all the excitement.


I've been waiting for a Post along those lines to make this point.  'We' better get these buggers out in the desert, and ensure they cannot get back to a major city into which they can dissolve without trace, or, if they leave a trail.....we will be forced to engage in urban street by street warfare, and that, I'm told, is nasty.
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Reply #6 - Sep 20th, 2014 at 3:08pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 11th, 2014 at 10:00am:
IS or ISIL or the Caliphate, whatever is the label du jour, they're doomed.

The reason is simply that every power centre in the Middle East will oppose them. There is not a government, princely head, mainstream Islamic branch, army officer corps or any other current holder of power that does not feel threatened by them.

They might get recruits for their ragtail & raghead guerrilla forces but eventually the weight of opposition will tell.

They've had it.

They have had it because they don't make their own weapons: they may aswell be drug dealers spooking little kids into minor roles in a failed and boring play!

The umbilical cord of supply is a reality... oops!
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Reply #7 - Sep 20th, 2014 at 5:45pm
 
Yes....that's what stuffed Germany in Russia. The German Army did not consider that they may be stuck there through the winter. And, they froze to death in their thousands because of no winter kit...and Germany's inability to supply them with it.
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Reply #8 - Sep 21st, 2014 at 9:35am
 
red baron wrote on Sep 20th, 2014 at 5:45pm:
Yes....that's what stuffed Germany in Russia. The German Army did not consider that they may be stuck there through the winter. And, they froze to death in their thousands because of no winter kit...and Germany's inability to supply them with it.

Time is a big factor: Kasparov had a book 'how chess imitates life' and said that a corrollary of the second law of thermodynamics was that a more organised army would lose less energy in manoeuvre than a less organised army.

...  Grin I didn't realise that is what it meant but there you go!
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Reply #9 - Sep 23rd, 2014 at 10:43am
 
The thousands of refugees pouring over the Turkish border will never be willing citizens of the Caliphate.

"What kind of muslims kill other muslims like this" one man was heard to say.

Sticky note: email my MP to urge govt to give massive aid to Turkey.
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Reply #10 - Sep 23rd, 2014 at 11:09am
 
red baron wrote on Sep 20th, 2014 at 5:45pm:
Yes....that's what stuffed Germany in Russia. The German Army did not consider that they may be stuck there through the winter. And, they froze to death in their thousands because of no winter kit...and Germany's inability to supply them with it.



Napoleon poisoned his army with lead....we learn .. well some of us do!
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Reply #11 - Sep 23rd, 2014 at 11:22am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2014 at 10:43am:
The thousands of refugees pouring over the Turkish border will never be willing citizens of the Caliphate.

"What kind of muslims kill other muslims like this" one man was heard to say.

Sticky note: email my MP to urge govt to give massive aid to Turkey.



shouldnt we be finding a way for everyone to live with each other.. rather than kill each other to win a point??>..

what is it with extremists??....doesnt matter what they support its always over and above everything they or we believe in...

Hitler wanted to exterminate anything that wasnt white and Aryan.. for his master race.

white supreamists..are only happy if they too are exterminating..

and ISIL is no different they fear what they cant control..

lets face it.. if a Christian born and bred suddenly decides he/she wants to be a Mulsim and fight the good fight.. suddenly they are OK....over night they become  a hater of everything they once believed in... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

like Hitlers jews if they were half jewish but looked Aryan.. then they werent jewish..

far out that makes a lot of sense to some..
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Reply #12 - Sep 23rd, 2014 at 3:32pm
 
cods wrote on Sep 23rd, 2014 at 11:09am:
red baron wrote on Sep 20th, 2014 at 5:45pm:
Yes....that's what stuffed Germany in Russia. The German Army did not consider that they may be stuck there through the winter. And, they froze to death in their thousands because of no winter kit...and Germany's inability to supply them with it.



Napoleon poisoned his army with lead
....we learn .. well some of us do!


How did this happen?
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Reply #13 - Sep 23rd, 2014 at 8:49pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 16th, 2014 at 3:17pm:
there'll be another similar group after this one.
there have been the same before.

Only when every koran is burnt and every mosque destroyed will there be no more groups such as this. 
I think you will find that it was policies like this that made christianity huge.  Talk about playing right into IS' hands.
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Reply #14 - Sep 23rd, 2014 at 11:14pm
 
"A Melbourne Man Who Threatened PM Tony Abbott Has Been Shot Dead"
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