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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95930 Gender:	Re: logan terrorist islam centre busted Reply #30 - Sep 15^th, 2014 at 8:37pm I’ve always said just that, old boy. Never ever EVER EVER. Good to see we’re all on the same page, innit.
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Reply #31 - Sep 15^th, 2014 at 8:45pm

Soren wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 8:30pm:

You have never, ever, EVER,

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condemned Islamic attrocities with the zeal you jump on anyone condemning Islamic attrocities.

I had great fun with Brian on the old site, he claimed he had condemned Islamic atrocities, in fact he over egged it and said he frequently did so.

I thought that sounds odd cos I have never seen a single one so I did the search, ...nothing, nada, zip. I challenged the fool to show where he had said so and he resorted to his usual bluster without ever linking to any previous condemnation.

But for extra giggles and obviously realising he had an obvious and demonstrable bias, later and rather quietly he did throw out a condemnation. A single one, which he forever referenced afterwards as evidence of how even handed he is.

Bloke must think everyone is as stupid as his alter ego.

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Reply #32 - Sep 15^th, 2014 at 8:55pm

Soren wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 8:30pm:

You have never, ever, EVER, EVER condemned Islamic attrocities with the zeal you jump on anyone condemning Islamic attrocities.

Feeling the pressure, Soren? Good.

I don't condemn people for condemning Islamic atrocities if they condemn only the perpetrators, Soren. Unfortunately you and your compatriots rarely do, you invariably ascribe to all Muslims any such atrocities which are committed only by a minority.

As for my condemnation of Islamic atrocities. No I don't. I condemn Muslim atrocities. Detect the subtle difference? I also suspect that my condemnation would be too measured for you, who resorts to and prefers outright bigotry and hatred for all Muslims. Roll Eyes

How about you? Have you ever, ever condemned the persecution of Muslims with the zeal you condemn Muslims for any of the slightest infringement you imagine them to have committed? Still waiting to see you stand up for innocent Muslims suffering from the sort of religious persecution you peddle in all your posts. Oh, wait, that can't work, can it, condemning yourself? Roll Eyes

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: logan terrorist islam centre busted Reply #33 - Sep 15^th, 2014 at 9:43pm Muslims are persecuted by other Muslims far more than by anyone else. Muslims are victims of other Muslims. Explain.
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Reply #34 - Sep 15^th, 2014 at 11:26pm

Soren wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 9:43pm:

Muslims are persecuted by other Muslims far more than by anyone else.
Muslims are victims of other Muslims.

Explain.

I have made both points repeatedly, Soren.

I have explained both points repeatedly. Why must I repeat the explanation? Didn't you understand it the first "n" times? Roll Eyes

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Reply #35 - Sep 16^th, 2014 at 8:08am

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 11:26pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 9:43pm:

Muslims are persecuted by other Muslims far more than by anyone else.
Muslims are victims of other Muslims.

Explain.

I have made both points repeatedly, Soren.

I have explained both points repeatedly. Why must I repeat the explanation? Didn't you understand it the first "n" times? Roll Eyes

But Islam has nuffin' to do wiv it, yes?
It's our fault that the religion of peacers are killing each other in the name of.... er... Islam.

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Reply #36 - Sep 16^th, 2014 at 8:21am

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 8:55pm:

As for my condemnation of Islamic atrocities. No I don't. I condemn Muslim atrocities. Detect the subtle difference?

Er.... no. Muslims committing atrocities in the name of Islam are committing Islamic atrocities.
Their islam must be scrutinised and rejected if it indeed provided the motivation.
Especially now when there are so many horrors committed in the name of Islam it is preposterous for you and (other) Muslims to argue that Islam is beyond criticism. It is an untenable position - and you cling to it, naturally.

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Reply #37 - Sep 17^th, 2014 at 1:24am

Soren wrote on Sep 16^th, 2014 at 8:08am:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 11:26pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 9:43pm:

Muslims are persecuted by other Muslims far more than by anyone else.
Muslims are victims of other Muslims.

Explain.

I have made both points repeatedly, Soren.

I have explained both points repeatedly. Why must I repeat the explanation? Didn't you understand it the first "n" times? Roll Eyes

But Islam has nuffin' to do wiv it, yes?

What we are observing is a battle for control of the religion of Islam, between the extremists and the moderates. The extremists are expressing one interpretation of the belief system which is not supported by the majority of Muslims. You however appear to keep trying to portray Islam as being monolithic whereas the reality is obviously very different, Soren. Roll Eyes

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It's our fault that the religion of peacers are killing each other in the name of.... er... Islam.

We are contributing heavily to the problem but ultimately it is the Muslims, the extremist Muslims in particular who must bear responsibility for their actions, Soren. They are killing one another in the name of their version of the religion referred to as Islam. Rather as the Catholics and the Protestants killed each other in the name of Christianity during the 30 Years War in Europe.

Out of a matter of interest, Sore, which end do you crack your egg on? Roll Eyes

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Reply #38 - Sep 17^th, 2014 at 1:29am

Soren wrote on Sep 16^th, 2014 at 8:21am:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 15^th, 2014 at 8:55pm:

As for my condemnation of Islamic atrocities. No I don't. I condemn Muslim atrocities. Detect the subtle difference?

Er.... no. Muslims committing atrocities in the name of Islam are committing Islamic atrocities.

No, they are committing Muslim atrocities, Soren.

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Their islam must be scrutinised and rejected if it indeed provided the motivation.

Just as Christianity then should be rejected if it indirect provided the motivation for Joseph Kony's atrocities?

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Especially now when there are so many horrors committed in the name of Islam it is preposterous for you and (other) Muslims to argue that Islam is beyond criticism. It is an untenable position - and you cling to it, naturally.

You keep assuming I am a Muslim. Why, what evidence do you have I am a Muslim, Soren?

I have never argued that Islam is beyond criticism, Soren. The problem is that your criticism goes beyond that, into the realm of persecution. Roll Eyes

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: logan terrorist islam centre busted Reply #40 - Sep 17^th, 2014 at 2:19am It's pretty simple, really. If Islam and sharia were ruling Australia, it would be a significantly worse place in every respect. Think about that and let me know what exactly recommends Islam.
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Reply #41 - Sep 17^th, 2014 at 12:49pm

Soren wrote on Sep 17^th, 2014 at 2:19am:

It's pretty simple, really.
If Islam and sharia were ruling Australia, it would be a significantly worse place in every respect.

I suspect it's what you're used to. People work within the system they are used to. Americans think anything that is mildly left of centre is full blown Communism. Australians don't. The UK, despite the superficial similarities is very different to Australia but my Sensei, Herbert refuses to recognise that, despite having left the UK what over 50 years ago? Fear drives your perceptions of the "other", Grin

Think about that and let me know what exactly recommends Islam. [/quote]

Nothing but that's my opinion. I just hate pricks like you trying to impose your opinion on people who may choose otherwise. It's their opiate Soren, they can ingest it how they like. Cheesy

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Reply #42 - Sep 17^th, 2014 at 1:02pm

|dev|null wrote on Sep 17^th, 2014 at 12:49pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 17^th, 2014 at 2:19am:

It's pretty simple, really.
If Islam and sharia were ruling Australia, it would be a significantly worse place in every respect.

I suspect it's what you're used to. People work within the system they are used to. Americans think anything that is mildly left of centre is full blown Communism. Australians don't. The UK, despite the superficial similarities is very different to Australia but my Sensei, Herbert refuses to recognise that, despite having left the UK what over 50 years ago? Fear drives your perceptions of the "other", Grin

Think about that and let me know what exactly recommends Islam.

Nothing but that's my opinion. I just hate pricks like you trying to impose your opinion on people who may choose otherwise. It's their opiate Soren, they can ingest it how they like. Cheesy

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........Americans think anything that is mildly left of centre is full blown Communism......

you are wrong. the US has been very left wing for a very long time. Many of its problems have been from left wingedness

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\|dev\|null Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4434 Gender:	Re: logan terrorist islam centre busted Reply #43 - Sep 17^th, 2014 at 1:05pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 17^th, 2014 at 1:02pm: you are wrong. the US has been very left wing for a very long time. Many of its problems have been from left wingedness Not from my perspective!
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Reply #44 - Sep 17^th, 2014 at 1:21pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 17^th, 2014 at 1:02pm:

you are wrong. the US has been very left wing for a very long time. Many of its problems have been from left wingedness

Your so-called "problems" come from having a constitution and a Bill of Rights. If you think this is left-wingedness, blame the Founding Fathers.

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