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Reply #165 - Sep 15th, 2014 at 8:41am
 
St George of the Garden wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 1:36am:



I wouldn't trust kouk to tell me yesterdays weather.  his bald-faced lying on economic matters are well-known.
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Reply #166 - Sep 15th, 2014 at 8:50am
 
Shooting the messenger is not a proper answer, Longy! The Kouk unlike the Lieberal Party gave a source.
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Reply #167 - Sep 15th, 2014 at 8:55am
 
St George of the Garden wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 8:50am:
Shooting the messenger is not a proper answer, Longy! The Kouk unlike the Lieberal Party gave a source.


and like all good statisticians with political bias, he used them wrongly. 

a) unemployment is 6.1% not 6.4%
b) jobs are created as well as lost and the Libs claim is correct
c) if labor created nearly a million jobs then how come unemployment was so high when they left? (clue: refer b above)

kouk's opinion is always biased by such a wide margin.
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Reply #168 - Sep 15th, 2014 at 8:59am
 
If you care to look you will see those tweets got posted before the latest and suspect figures.

Easier to shoot the messenger, eh Longy?
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Reply #169 - Sep 15th, 2014 at 9:02am
 
Not only that I have stated the severe fiscal consolidation that was part of the ill–conceived push for a surplus by Labor caused unemployment to rise, hence the end of the quest for a surplus. With a highly indebted household sector that is how it goes.

Given that and the wholesale destruction of confidence by the Libs and their stupid, harsh and unfair Budget their cuts to spending are going to cause even bigger rises in unemployment! Then the multiplier effect kicks in—7% unemployment by the end of the year is my guess.

Yes, jobs are lost and gained all the time but net gains/losses are what is important and is what is measured by the ABS surveys.
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Reply #170 - Oct 8th, 2014 at 1:33pm
 
it seems Abbott is not so great after all ... the ABS got their stats wrong  Grin Grin Grin Grin

Pity all the rightards who blew their load to early   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/abs-backtracks-on-jobs-data-after-aug...
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Re: Largest jobs growth for 23 years - Onya Abbott
Reply #171 - Oct 8th, 2014 at 1:42pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 8:55am:
St George of the Garden wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 8:50am:
Shooting the messenger is not a proper answer, Longy! The Kouk unlike the Lieberal Party gave a source.


and like all good statisticians with political bias, he used them wrongly. 

a) unemployment is 6.1% not 6.4%




It rose to 6.4% in July.

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Reply #172 - Oct 8th, 2014 at 2:07pm
 
John Smith wrote on Oct 8th, 2014 at 1:33pm:
it seems Abbott is not so great after all ... the ABS got their stats wrong  Grin Grin Grin Grin

Pity all the rightards who blew their load to early   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/abs-backtracks-on-jobs-data-after-aug...


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Reply #173 - Oct 8th, 2014 at 2:22pm
 
John Smith wrote on Oct 8th, 2014 at 1:33pm:
it seems Abbott is not so great after all ... the ABS got their stats wrong  Grin Grin Grin Grin

Pity all the rightards who blew their load to early   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/abs-backtracks-on-jobs-data-after-aug...




"The August figure had been so far above expectations that analysts had doubted its credibility."      Smiley
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Reply #174 - Oct 8th, 2014 at 2:51pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 8th, 2014 at 2:22pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 8th, 2014 at 1:33pm:
it seems Abbott is not so great after all ... the ABS got their stats wrong  Grin Grin Grin Grin

Pity all the rightards who blew their load to early   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/abs-backtracks-on-jobs-data-after-aug...




"The August figure had been so far above expectations that analysts had doubted its credibility."      Smiley


didn't stop a few of the retards jumping on the bandwagon proclaiming Abbotts god like powers Cheesy Cheesy
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Re: Largest jobs growth for 23 years - Onya Abbott
Reply #175 - Oct 8th, 2014 at 2:55pm
 
John Smith wrote on Oct 8th, 2014 at 2:51pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 8th, 2014 at 2:22pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 8th, 2014 at 1:33pm:
it seems Abbott is not so great after all ... the ABS got their stats wrong  Grin Grin Grin Grin

Pity all the rightards who blew their load to early   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/abs-backtracks-on-jobs-data-after-aug...




"The August figure had been so far above expectations that analysts had doubted its credibility."      Smiley


didn't stop a few of the retards jumping on the bandwagon proclaiming Abbotts god like powers Cheesy Cheesy



'Jobs surge "unbelievable", say economists'

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/business/a/24963842/number-of-aussies-with-job...

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Reply #176 - Oct 8th, 2014 at 3:01pm
 
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Reply #177 - Oct 8th, 2014 at 3:11pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 8:41am:
St George of the Garden wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 1:36am:

I wouldn't trust kouk to tell me yesterdays weather.  his bald-faced lying on economic matters are well-known.

He's not lying, but both are being selective with the facts that they highlight. The Liberals are cherrypicking one month's figures that even the ABS themselves admit are dodgy, and Koukoulas is reporting one set of numbers for the ALP and another for the Liberals.

One thing is clear though - Australia has a problem with unemployment. The unemployment rate is trending upwards. Even if the Australian economy somehow managed to create 1,000,000 jobs in five years and 2,000,000 in ten years, unemployment isn't likely to fall much if at all. We need to create about 2,500,000 full time jobs in a decade to bring unemployment down, and that's not likely to happen.
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Re: Largest jobs growth for 23 years - Onya Abbott
Reply #178 - Oct 8th, 2014 at 8:52pm
 
No government policy 'creates' jobs - they develop from need in the economic sphere over which, it is painfully obvious, our governments have little to no control, understanding or effect.

If they did - they would generate policies the employ most people instead of offering them a stop-gap that gives them no future.

It amazes me how critical some people are of 'controlled' economies and their dire results - yet wish to claim some magical measure of control by government over our economy, when they have quite simply lost the plot.

Governments are there to regulate - not impose.
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Reply #179 - Oct 10th, 2014 at 6:28pm
 
So now that the ABS has taken out its adjustment we find the unemployment rates for the past 3 months at 6.0,  6.0  and 6.1.

not exactly runaway unemployment is it?  it is one thing tho... it is the STOPPING of the trend of increasing unemployment that has been in existence for almost 3 years, two of them under labor.
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