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Reply #15 - Sep 11^th, 2014 at 4:48pm

A 'job' is officially anything from a Casual 2 hour stint: its an official employment.

Even 6 years ago, I remember guys travelling outside of Sydney for casual 'Farm-Hand' jobs because all their City jobs have been cut down to x1 day a week. By doing this, the Employers allow the Employee to sack themselves in frustration.
This still continues today and if you look around the Job-Site Searches: a large amount of jobs are no longer Full-Time ...even 'Careers' are finding it tough.

I wonder if Australia's 'Domestic Birthrate' has dropped this year ...what, with women forced to work and not have children - to appease the 'Economy' Huh

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Largest jobs growth for 23 years - Onya Abbott Reply #16 - Sep 11^th, 2014 at 5:30pm one way of looking at this result is that the 6.4% of the last report was wrong and it was never that high. a 0.3% rise and then fall in a few months sounds unlikely.
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Reply #17 - Sep 11^th, 2014 at 7:09pm

Swagman wrote on Sep 11^th, 2014 at 1:07pm:

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/business/a/24963842/number-of-aussies-with-job...

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The number of jobs added to the Australian economy has skyrocketed, marking the biggest gain in 23 years.

The total number of people with jobs rose a whopping 121,000 to 11.704 million in August, official figures on Thursday show.

The unemployment rate fell to 6.1 per cent in August from 6.4 per cent in July.

The figures far exceeded economists' expectations and suggested July's jobless rate was likely an aberration.

The unemployment rate was expected to fall to 6.3 per cent in August, with 10,000 jobs added to the economy, according to an AAP survey of 11 economists.

Must be the relief of finally getting rid of the toxic job killing carbon tax & mining taxes... Cool

11, 704,000 (6.1%) Employed in August.

6.1% multiplied by 16 = 97.6%

11,704,000 multiplied by 16 = 187,264,000 (workforce)

The total population of Australia in August was 23,593,129

This creates a problem in that the economists figures are total bullshit!

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Reply #18 - Sep 11^th, 2014 at 7:14pm

That doesn't include the jobs lost.... and please explain - what are these jobs? Half an hour a week shuffling chips at MacFries?

All we hear is Radio Ga-Ga.. and it's full of stories of workers laid off and businesses closing..... propaganda machine in full swing and telling us that even though all those people lost jobs they actually all got jobs and more....

Yeah - I can see that.. every damned day.

How is the unemployment reduction in the Illawarra? Down here the available jobs went down from 23 to 16 in a week.... most of them qualified to the max - accountant, chef, operator of this or that with ten tickets, experienced beer seller, or are part-time sheila's work like book-keeping for which a bloke can apply but will get a laugh before a shuffle off to File 13..... maybe I could get a job as an Aboriginal Women's Advice Officer on Home Issues or something .. oops.. too many special requirements....

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Reply #19 - Sep 11^th, 2014 at 7:21pm

DaS Energy wrote on Sep 11^th, 2014 at 7:09pm:

Swagman wrote on Sep 11^th, 2014 at 1:07pm:

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/business/a/24963842/number-of-aussies-with-job...

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The number of jobs added to the Australian economy has skyrocketed, marking the biggest gain in 23 years.

The total number of people with jobs rose a whopping 121,000 to 11.704 million in August, official figures on Thursday show.

The unemployment rate fell to 6.1 per cent in August from 6.4 per cent in July.

The figures far exceeded economists' expectations and suggested July's jobless rate was likely an aberration.

The unemployment rate was expected to fall to 6.3 per cent in August, with 10,000 jobs added to the economy, according to an AAP survey of 11 economists.

Must be the relief of finally getting rid of the toxic job killing carbon tax & mining taxes... Cool

11, 704,000 (6.1%) Employed in August.

6.1% multiplied by 16 = 97.6%

11,704,000 multiplied by 16 = 187,264,000 (workforce)

The total population of Australia in August was 23,593,129

This creates a problem in that the economists figures are total bullshit!

you are such a dunce. 6.1% is the UNEMPLOYED rate.

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Reply #20 - Sep 11^th, 2014 at 7:54pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2014 at 1:22pm:

So when unemployment goes up it is a tragegy and Abbotts fault but when it comes down it is an accident and an aberration???

... another Abbott govt success, turning te unemployment rate around after a disastrous 6 years of labor.

Get REAL !

The carbon "tax" and mineral tax have been gone - all of ten minutes

They haven't even got their first BUDGET through

What has this deceitful government done to cut unemployment figures ?

Consumer sentiment slumps as budget worries weigh

September 10, 2014

http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/consumer-sentiment-slumps-as-budget-w...

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Reply #21 - Sep 11^th, 2014 at 8:28pm

The reality is that while governments love to say their policies are the reason for a decline in unemployment - they actually have little to no impact on unemployment at all other than with such things as the now discredited affirmative action etc that brought 40% more workers into the force from the early 1980's, thus creating a glut of workers and a de facto reduction in household incomes generally, while enhancing a few such - primarily of the Patriarchal society kind of no divorce or it's honour killing for you! Apart from that - in our current guise as a Banana Republic - employment is way too reliant on world trade and other issues outside of Oz.

When we see a solid policy platform such as my GAIA concepts in motion - then we will see a government - the one that instituted the GAIA - being able to claim they lowered unemployment by a deliberate policy of national improvement.

Word for Today:- Umemployment - Tony Abbott discussing jobs.

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The_Barnacle Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6205 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Largest jobs growth for 23 years - Onya Abbott Reply #22 - Sep 11^th, 2014 at 10:26pm Vic wrote on Sep 11^th, 2014 at 3:38pm: Most of the gains came in part-time jobs which surged 106,700, Exactly right. a vast majority of the jobs created were part time. And under current Government definitions that can mean as little as an hour a week
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Reply #23 - Sep 11^th, 2014 at 11:27pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Sep 11^th, 2014 at 7:54pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2014 at 1:22pm:

So when unemployment goes up it is a tragegy and Abbotts fault but when it comes down it is an accident and an aberration???

... another Abbott govt success, turning te unemployment rate around after a disastrous 6 years of labor.

Get REAL !

The carbon "tax" and mineral tax have been gone - all of ten minutes

They haven't even got their first BUDGET through

What has this deceitful government done to cut unemployment figures ?

Consumer sentiment slumps as budget worries weigh

September 10, 2014

http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/consumer-sentiment-slumps-as-budget-w...

boofheads like you claimed Abbott was responsible for the debt, deficit and unemployment about three days after taking office.

so how's it feel???

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Reply #24 - Sep 11^th, 2014 at 11:27pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 11^th, 2014 at 10:26pm:

Vic wrote on Sep 11^th, 2014 at 3:38pm:

Most of the gains came in part-time jobs which surged 106,700,

Exactly right. a vast majority of the jobs created were part time.
And under current Government definitions that can mean as little as an hour a week

but under labor those same part time jobs were 34.5 hrs/week right?

get over yourself. what you are saying is absolute bunk.

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Reply #25 - Sep 11^th, 2014 at 11:35pm

Wait until the kids leave school and the Christmas job bubble bursts again...

These are called seasonal fluctuations..... even now local businesses are gearing up for Christmas and the warmer weather.....

No biggie either way... a historical view of the fluctuations will most likely coincide nicely with 'Tony's Rush Hour of Jobs'.. along the Road To Two Mill-yun Jobs!

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Reply #26 - Sep 11^th, 2014 at 11:36pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2014 at 11:27pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 11^th, 2014 at 10:26pm:

Vic wrote on Sep 11^th, 2014 at 3:38pm:

Most of the gains came in part-time jobs which surged 106,700,

Exactly right. a vast majority of the jobs created were part time.
And under current Government definitions that can mean as little as an hour a week

but under labor those same part time jobs were 34.5 hrs/week right?

get over yourself. what you are saying is absolute bunk.

Counting someone employed if they do a few hours work a week is dodgy no matter who does it. Who introduced the criteria? That is what sucks. Unemployed should be counted as anyone working so few hours they can access Newstart Centrelink payments or whatever they are called today.

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Reply #28 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 6:21am

Swagman wrote on Sep 11^th, 2014 at 1:07pm:

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/business/a/24963842/number-of-aussies-with-job...

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The number of jobs added to the Australian economy has skyrocketed, marking the biggest gain in 23 years.

The total number of people with jobs rose a whopping 121,000 to 11.704 million in August, official figures on Thursday show.

The unemployment rate fell to 6.1 per cent in August from 6.4 per cent in July.

The figures far exceeded economists' expectations and suggested July's jobless rate was likely an aberration.

The unemployment rate was expected to fall to 6.3 per cent in August, with 10,000 jobs added to the economy, according to an AAP survey of 11 economists.

Must be the relief of finally getting rid of the toxic job killing carbon tax & mining taxes... Cool

They added that “even the ABS probably doesn’t believe it”. ROTFLMAO

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Reply #29 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 6:26am

Swagman wrote on Sep 11^th, 2014 at 1:07pm:

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/business/a/24963842/number-of-aussies-with-job...

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The number of jobs added to the Australian economy has skyrocketed, marking the biggest gain in 23 years.

The total number of people with jobs rose a whopping 121,000 to 11.704 million in August, official figures on Thursday show.

The unemployment rate fell to 6.1 per cent in August from 6.4 per cent in July.

The figures far exceeded economists' expectations and suggested July's jobless rate was likely an aberration.

The unemployment rate was expected to fall to 6.3 per cent in August, with 10,000 jobs added to the economy, according to an AAP survey of 11 economists.

Must be the relief of finally getting rid of the toxic job killing carbon tax & mining taxes... Cool

What about all the jobs that have been lost over the years. Thousands of them!

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