Australian Politics Forum - Largest jobs growth for 23 years

Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: Largest jobs growth for 23 years - Onya Abbott Reply #30 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 7:14am The number of full time jobs fell. Try paying your mortgage or rent on 15 hours work per week. Most part time workers are also on benefits because they don't earn enough to make ends meet. Nothing to brag about.
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Largest jobs growth for 23 years - Onya Abbott Reply #31 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 7:57am gotta love it... unemployment rate up: abbot to blame. unemployment down: dodgy data you lot are a laugh
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75137 Gender:	Re: Largest jobs growth for 23 years - Onya Abbott Reply #32 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 8:04am oh look, longy the cheerleaders back
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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: Largest jobs growth for 23 years - Onya Abbott Reply #33 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 8:07am Employment up, hours down, people registering for benefits up. Nothing to brag about.
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Re: Largest jobs growth for 23 years - Onya Abbott
Reply #34 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 8:09am

John Smith wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 8:04am:

oh look, longy the cheerleaders back

http://www.therealstevegray.com/wp-content/uploads/male_cheerleader.jpg

so JS choose your position on this

1) the 6.4% of last month was wrong and it was actually 6.1% so all your criticisms were unjustified

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2) the Abbott govt has massively improved employment and the biggest drop in unemployment in 35 years.

they are your only two choices and both suck for you.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Re: Largest jobs growth for 23 years - Onya Abbott
Reply #35 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 8:13am

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 8:09am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 8:04am:

oh look, longy the cheerleaders back

http://www.therealstevegray.com/wp-content/uploads/male_cheerleader.jpg

so JS choose your position on this

1) the 6.4% of last month was wrong and it was actually 6.1% so all your criticisms were unjustified

- OR -

2) the Abbott govt has massively improved employment and the biggest drop in unemployment in 35 years.

they are your only two choices and both suck for you.

who says they are my only choices? you think the world revolves around what you say? I say the figures look dodgy and should be taken with a grain of salt ... you really think we've had more jobs created in the last 4 weeks than in the last 12 months combined? pull your head out longy and put those pom poms down

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Largest jobs growth for 23 years - Onya Abbott
Reply #36 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 8:35am

buzzanddidj wrote on Sep 11^th, 2014 at 7:54pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2014 at 1:22pm:

So when unemployment goes up it is a tragegy and Abbotts fault but when it comes down it is an accident and an aberration???

... another Abbott govt success, turning te unemployment rate around after a disastrous 6 years of labor.

Get REAL !

The carbon "tax" and mineral tax have been gone - all of ten minutes

The

LibNats

haven't even got their first BUDGET through

What has this deceitful government done to cut unemployment figures ?

Consumer sentiment slumps as budget worries weigh

September 10, 2014

http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/consumer-sentiment-slumps-as-budget-w...

THE Australian Bureau of Statistics has come under fire after reporting the biggest monthly jump in employment in the 35 years of official records, with market economists slamming the figures as
“unbelievable.”

The August monthly labour force survey showed 121,000 jobs were created in four weeks, more than the economy had generated in the previous 12 months and
almost 10 times more than the market was expecting.
Almost 90 per cent of the new jobs were part-time.

Citigroup’s two chief economists, Josh Williamson and Paul Brennan, said:
“We don’t believe the data.”

They added that
“even the ABS probably doesn’t believe it”.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/economists-slam-abs-over-wild-jobs-figures/...

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Re: Largest jobs growth for 23 years - Onya Abbott
Reply #37 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 8:39am

Statistically significant: why the ABS cuts matter

6 Jun, 8:06 AM

Budget cuts at the Australian Bureau of Statistics might not seem like a big deal but compromising the scope and quality of our national statistics is a decision that should not be taken lightly.

These cuts highlight the short-sightedness of Australian politics, where immaterial budget savings are placed ahead of an organisation that plays a pivotal role in government decision-making and our economic well-being.

The ABS has failed to, as Prime Minister Tony Abbott might say, “live within its means” for years. Over the past three years it has accumulated deficits of $117 million, including $45.5m over the last financial year. Based on the current budget, the ABS must cut spending by $50m over the next three years.

http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2014/6/6/politics/statistically-sign...

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Re: Largest jobs growth for 23 years - Onya Abbott
Reply #38 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 8:39am

John Smith wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 8:13am:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 8:09am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 8:04am:

oh look, longy the cheerleaders back

http://www.therealstevegray.com/wp-content/uploads/male_cheerleader.jpg

so JS choose your position on this

1) the 6.4% of last month was wrong and it was actually 6.1% so all your criticisms were unjustified

- OR -

2) the Abbott govt has massively improved employment and the biggest drop in unemployment in 35 years.

they are your only two choices and both suck for you.

who says they are my only choices? you think the world revolves around what you say? I say the figures look dodgy and should be taken with a grain of salt ... you really think we've had more jobs created in the last 4 weeks than in the last 12 months combined? pull your head out longy and put those pom poms down

they ARE the only two choices available. they are either right or wrong.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Re: Largest jobs growth for 23 years - Onya Abbott
Reply #39 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 8:40am

buzzanddidj wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 8:35am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Sep 11^th, 2014 at 7:54pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2014 at 1:22pm:

So when unemployment goes up it is a tragegy and Abbotts fault but when it comes down it is an accident and an aberration???

... another Abbott govt success, turning te unemployment rate around after a disastrous 6 years of labor.

Get REAL !

The carbon "tax" and mineral tax have been gone - all of ten minutes

They haven't even got their first BUDGET through

What has this deceitful government done to cut unemployment figures ?

Consumer sentiment slumps as budget worries weigh

September 10, 2014

http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/consumer-sentiment-slumps-as-budget-w...

THE Australian Bureau of Statistics has come under fire after reporting the biggest monthly jump in employment in the 35 years of official records, with market economists slamming the figures as
“unbelievable.”

The August monthly labour force survey showed 121,000 jobs were created in four weeks, more than the economy had generated in the previous 12 months and
almost 10 times more than the market was expecting.
Almost 90 per cent of the new jobs were part-time.

Citigroup’s two chief economists, Josh Williamson and Paul Brennan, said:
“We don’t believe the data.”

They added that
“even the ABS probably doesn’t believe it”.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/economists-slam-abs-over-wild-jobs-figures/...

so last months 6.4% was wrong as well when it was the HIGHEST jump in 12 years????

you really are rogue-poll, buzz or rogue-stat buzz.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Re: Largest jobs growth for 23 years - Onya Abbott
Reply #40 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 8:45am

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2014 at 3:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 11^th, 2014 at 1:27pm:

"jobs"? That's full-time jobs? 38 hours per week?

Or, does "jobs" include casuals doing just 2 hours per week?

you could always just make it up. that's not beyond you Pedantry-Man

Struggling to come up with an answer, hey?

"jobs"? That's full-time jobs? 38 hours per week?

Or, does "jobs" include casuals doing just 2 hours per week?

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Reply #41 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 8:49am

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 8:45am:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2014 at 3:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 11^th, 2014 at 1:27pm:

"jobs"? That's full-time jobs? 38 hours per week?

Or, does "jobs" include casuals doing just 2 hours per week?

you could always just make it up. that's not beyond you Pedantry-Man

Struggling to come up with an answer, hey?

"jobs"? That's full-time jobs? 38 hours per week?

Or, does "jobs" include casuals doing just 2 hours per week?

you know as well as everyone that 'employed' means having one hour of work per week or more. that definition does not however imply that ANYONE is working one hour or the distribution of hours worked. in fact, all it does is give wankers the opportunity to complain vociferously about something they know nothing about. Surely Pedantry-man would know all about words with super-wide definitions. Perhaps you can use your super power to com up with a range of words to cover the range instead of just 'employed'.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Re: Largest jobs growth for 23 years - Onya Abbott
Reply #42 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 8:56am

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 8:49am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 8:45am:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2014 at 3:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 11^th, 2014 at 1:27pm:

"jobs"? That's full-time jobs? 38 hours per week?

Or, does "jobs" include casuals doing just 2 hours per week?

you could always just make it up. that's not beyond you Pedantry-Man

Struggling to come up with an answer, hey?

"jobs"? That's full-time jobs? 38 hours per week?

Or, does "jobs" include casuals doing just 2 hours per week?

you know as well as everyone that 'employed' means having one hour of work per week or more. that definition does not however imply that ANYONE is working one hour or the distribution of hours worked. in fact, all it does is give wankers the opportunity to complain vociferously about something they know nothing about. Surely Pedantry-man would know all about words with super-wide definitions. Perhaps you can use your super power to com up with a range of words to cover the range instead of just 'employed'.

How many hours, on average, are these "jobs" providing each week?

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 106761 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Largest jobs growth for 23 years - Onya Abbott Reply #43 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 8:59am I heard on the radio: 90% of these new jobs are part time.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139402 Gender:	Re: Largest jobs growth for 23 years - Onya Abbott Reply #44 - Sep 12^th, 2014 at 9:02am Bobby. wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 8:59am: I heard on the radio: 90% of these new jobs are part time. "The bureau of statistics admitted to concerns about the huge jump in part time work through August ... " https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/24964040/surprise-job-spike-drops-unemployme...
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