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Re: Shredding stupidity on renewable energy
Reply #15 - Sep 13^th, 2014 at 12:40am

General True Blue wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 10:45pm:

[buzzanddidj wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 9:04pm:

Who Is Robert Bryce?

Robert Bryce Is A Senior Fellow At The Manhattan Institute.
Bryce is "a senior fellow with the Center for Energy Policy and the Environment at the Manhattan Institute."
The center "seeks to influence today's energy policy debate by developing and advancing ideas rooted in free-market economic principles" and disseminates its message "through research papers, op-eds and interviews."
According to The Manhattan Insitute's 2009 990 form, accessed through GuideStar.org, the center had expenses of $496,692. [Manhattan Institute, accessed 10/6/11]

Manhattan Institute Is Funded By
ExxonMobil
.

According to ExxonSecrets.org, the Manhattan Institute has received $385,000 from Exxon since 1998, including $50,000 in 2010. [Exxonsecrets.org, accessed 9/13/11]

Manhattan Institute Has Received Funding From
The Koch Family Foundations.

The Manhattan Institute has received over $1.3 million total from the Claude R. Lambe Foundation and the David H. Koch Foundation over the years, both of which are associated with Koch Industries, an oil, gas and chemical corporation.

From 2001 to 2009 (the most recent year for which data is available), the Lambe Foundation gave The Manhattan Institute $200,000 annually.
The Lambe Foundation's board of directors is "comprised entirely of Koch family members, senior Koch executives, and staff who serve Koch foundations," including the CEO of Koch Industries Charles G. Koch.

Manhattan Institute Was Previously Funded By Tobacco Industry

In a 1990 memo, tobacco company RJ Reynolds said: "For the past few years, R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company has been a corporate sponsor of the Manhattan Institute," which

"has done much to stimulate thought at policy-making levels about the ramifications on American life of the product liability situation."

The Manhattan Institute also received money from other tobacco companies. A 1997 RJ Reynolds strategy memo brainstorming ways to

improve the image of the tobacco industry

proposed working with the Manhattan Institute to "educate the public about epidemiology and put risk in perspective." [Legacy Tobacco Documents Library, 10/19/90, 12/10/90, 4/11/95, 10/19/95, 10/25/95, 1/14/97, 2/4/97]

Manhattan Institute Worked With Philip Morris On Piece Criticizing Clinton Health Care Plan.

A Philip Morris memo revealed that the tobacco company "worked off-the-record" with the Manhattan Institute's Betsy McCaughey on her "three-part expose in The New Republic on what the Clinton plan means to you."

The plan included an increase on tobacco taxes

Oh MY !

Robert Bryce
leaves QUITE a nasty
"paper trail"
of
"cash for comment"

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another one that's missed the "POINT" ..

As do you, I think.

Bryce sounds like a well paid schill, He spreads disinformation on behalf of the fossil fuel industry and it appears people such as yourself lap it up. Roll Eyes

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Re: Shredding stupidity on renewable energy
Reply #16 - Sep 13^th, 2014 at 8:00am

General True Blue wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 10:45pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Sep 12^th, 2014 at 9:04pm:

Who Is Robert Bryce?

Robert Bryce Is A Senior Fellow At The Manhattan Institute.
Bryce is "a senior fellow with the Center for Energy Policy and the Environment at the Manhattan Institute."
The center "seeks to influence today's energy policy debate by developing and advancing ideas rooted in free-market economic principles" and disseminates its message "through research papers, op-eds and interviews."
According to The Manhattan Insitute's 2009 990 form, accessed through GuideStar.org, the center had expenses of $496,692. [Manhattan Institute, accessed 10/6/11]

Manhattan Institute Is Funded By
ExxonMobil
.

According to ExxonSecrets.org, the Manhattan Institute has received $385,000 from Exxon since 1998, including $50,000 in 2010. [Exxonsecrets.org, accessed 9/13/11]

Manhattan Institute Has Received Funding From
The Koch Family Foundations.

The Manhattan Institute has received over $1.3 million total from the Claude R. Lambe Foundation and the David H. Koch Foundation over the years, both of which are associated with Koch Industries, an oil, gas and chemical corporation.

From 2001 to 2009 (the most recent year for which data is available), the Lambe Foundation gave The Manhattan Institute $200,000 annually.
The Lambe Foundation's board of directors is "comprised entirely of Koch family members, senior Koch executives, and staff who serve Koch foundations," including the CEO of Koch Industries Charles G. Koch.

Manhattan Institute Was Previously Funded By Tobacco Industry

In a 1990 memo, tobacco company RJ Reynolds said: "For the past few years, R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company has been a corporate sponsor of the Manhattan Institute," which

"has done much to stimulate thought at policy-making levels about the ramifications on American life of the product liability situation."

The Manhattan Institute also received money from other tobacco companies. A 1997 RJ Reynolds strategy memo brainstorming ways to

improve the image of the tobacco industry

proposed working with the Manhattan Institute to "educate the public about epidemiology and put risk in perspective." [Legacy Tobacco Documents Library, 10/19/90, 12/10/90, 4/11/95, 10/19/95, 10/25/95, 1/14/97, 2/4/97]

Manhattan Institute Worked With Philip Morris On Piece Criticizing Clinton Health Care Plan.

A Philip Morris memo revealed that the tobacco company "worked off-the-record" with the Manhattan Institute's Betsy McCaughey on her "three-part expose in The New Republic on what the Clinton plan means to you."

The plan included an increase on tobacco taxes

Oh MY !

Robert Bryce
leaves QUITE a nasty
"paper trail"
of
"cash for comment"

another one that's missed the "POINT"

..

Not at ALL

The evidence is UNEQUIVICAL

This
Bryce
character is a spokesperson for -
and in the pockets of
- the
OIL, GAS, COAL and TOBACCO
industries - and the multi-billionaires that own them

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Re: Shredding stupidity on renewable energy
Reply #17 - Sep 13^th, 2014 at 8:26am

Windbags: where does
Terry McCrann
and Andrew Bolt get their science? Hint, not actual scientists…

One thing I’ve noted about

News Limited’s

commentators ceaseless war on science is how hostile they are to the work of actual scientists, preferring the misinformation of conservative think tanks such as the

IPA

,

fully-fledged cranks

such as

Lord Christoper Monckton

and contrarian scientists out of step with their peers (Ian Plimer)

If that wasn’t bad enough, it would appear they’ll happily accept any old drival their readers send them without taking the care to check the references or the facts.

Indeed, fact-checking seems to have become passe at News Limited
: why check facts, when the the information presented to you easily confirms your world view?

Now before accuses me of hypocrisy, of course I’ve received emails from readers alerting me to new research and reports. On occasion these have become posts. But in every instance, the references are to legitimate sources which I make every attempt to validate.

Not so

Terry MaCrann

and

Andrew Bolt

Last week

McCrann

provided a delicious example of the kind of

polemical, fact-free propaganda

that has become the hall mark of the work of

News Ltd

columnists.

His target: wind farms.

His source: what ever emails readers throw into his inbox

.

Windbag: McCrann’s war on wind farms

Terry McCrann

– Associate Editor for business at the

Herald Sun

– has been beating the denialist drum for years. Last week I was amused to see him raging against wind farms, the death of millions of birds and
Green Leader Bob Brown

Cont ...

http://watchingthedeniers.wordpress.com/2012/01/24/windbag-where-do-you-get-your...

Let's get rid of all the useless wind farms

Terry McCrann
Herald Sun

October 30, 2013

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/business/lets-get-rid-of-all-the-useless-wind-farms/...

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