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longweekend58 wrote on Sep 14 th, 2014 at 8:07pm: ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 14 th, 2014 at 7:42pm: longweekend58 wrote on Sep 14 th, 2014 at 7:16pm: ImSpartacus2 wrote on Sep 14 th, 2014 at 7:06pm: longweekend58 wrote on Sep 14 th, 2014 at 6:52pm: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 14 th, 2014 at 6:27pm: longweekend58 wrote on Sep 14 th, 2014 at 6:22pm: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 14 th, 2014 at 6:18pm: Kytro wrote on Sep 14 th, 2014 at 6:13pm: aquascoot wrote on Sep 14 th, 2014 at 5:48pm: time the poor risked something, created something, toiled over something and won something , other then a smacking whinging contest  Oh yeah, people are poor because they don't work hard enough, what utter nonsense, there is no correlation between how hard one works and how wealthy they are. Yeah there is an argument that people are poor because they aare lazy, but the main reason is that they are stupid, combine that with being lazy and a cradle to grave welfare system and you got a typical day down the dole office. Pity self respect is something you earn and not part of your welfare hand out. that is a bit simplistic. BUT if you are lazy you will tend to be poor. if you don't work and don't have a job, likewise. but if you study, go without and work hard you will generally do well. Uf you are prepared to put in the risk of your own business you may de quite well or even get legitimately rich. but lazy will pretty much always give you poverty You can be industrious and thick as pig sh1t and pretty much get nowhere in life. I think stupidity has a greater effect on self reliance than effort, work smart not hard and all that. But a combination of both is an absolute garuntee of a life in the dole queue. you have a point. you still need to have a modicum of skill as well, but effort and hard work will get you further than sheer talent. when you have both however, you can really boom! Or not. So many variables in the mix that the idea that capitalism rewards merit is really absurd. Have a look at ICAC and the Lib MPs lining up one after the other with stories of corruption and wrong doing. IMO capitalism is more adept at rewarding dishonesty and deceit then hard work and skill. I believe the story goes (and your quite welcome to produce evidence to the contrary - I'm not totally vouching for it) that when Bill Gates sold DOS to IBM he didn't have a computer operating system to sell them. After his meeting he arranged to buy or lease DOS from the creator for a pittance and who of course had no idea that Gates was on-leasing it to IBM. Regardless of what you think of the morals of that story (and if true I think Gates acted despicably) I think its fair to say that Gates got more highly rewarded for the skill and hard work that went into creating DOS then the creator did. again... just more examples and no clear-cut CONCEPTS and Gates sold DOS to IBM after IBM was rebuffed by another idiotic O/S writer (DR/DOS or CP/M). Gates put on the blue suit, got the job and then bought the product. he took risk and worked hard. unlike IMFULLOFIT and so many other complainers. Yes exactly what I was saying. The system didn't reward the skill and hard work that went into creating the product that ushered in the home computer age. It went to the shifty guy (you know, like the suited corrupt Liberal MP guys fronting before ICAC) who cheated the creator of his hard work (it really is the story of capitalism all over). And its significant that you characterize the person who created DOS (the product that ushered in the home computer age) as an idiotic O/S writer and Gates as the one who worked hard because this is another oft used tactic of capitalism; always demean the other person's contribution and overstate your own and that way you appear entitled when you clearly are not. Gates sought a market, bought a product and onsold it. its called BUSINESS. you don't seem to have any idea what it is. and still. you cant articulate concepts, merely examples. you are just jealous, that is all. a real thinker would propose an alternative. a jealous person does what YOU do. Yes the capitalist variant of "business", which even your account of the Gates story clearly demonstrates, is rarely about rewarding hard work and skill. Yes and the "you're just jealous" response is what you do when you're stuck for a rebuttal. As to your confused remark about "more examples and no concepts" you really do need to articulate what it is you're confused about so that I can reword the concepts I have already set out in terms that even an 18 year old (no better still) even a 10 year old can understand.
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