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Reply #15 - Sep 14th, 2014 at 2:28pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 11:20am:
Whereas you only seek out the bad stuff because you have a preconceived notion in your noggin to satisfy your Islamophobic bigotry.  None of the things you just quoted negate the points the Wikipedia article said.   Sometimes it better to go to a general article which provides a broad overview of a topic than it is to seek out specific examples.  It allows you to understand the concept, rather than just focus on examples.   Having an open mind also helps.  However, we know in your case that isn't possible.   



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There is just one historically relevant meaning of jihad despite the surfeit of contemporary apologetics. Dr. Tina Magaard—a Sorbonne-trained linguist specializing in textual analysis—published detailed research findings in 2005 (summarized in 2007) comparing the foundational texts of ten major religions. Magaard concluded from her hard data-driven analyses:

The texts in Islam distinguish themselves from the texts of other religions by encouraging violence and aggression against people with other religious beliefs to a larger degree [emphasis added]. There are also straightforward calls for terror. This has long been a taboo in the research into Islam, but it is a fact that we need to deal with.

For example, in her 2007 essay “Fjendebilleder og voldsforestillinger i islamiske grundtekster” [“Images of enemies and conceptions of violence in Islamic core scriptures”], Magaard observed,

There are 36 references in the Koran to expressions derived from the root qa-ta-la, which indicates fighting, killing or being killed. The expressions derived from the root ja-ha-da, which the word jihad stems from, are more ambiguous since they mean “to struggle” or “to make an effort” rather than killing. Yet almost all of the references derived from this root are found in stories that leave no room for doubt regarding the violent nature of this struggle. Only a single ja-ha-da reference (29:6) explicitly presents the struggle as an inner, spiritual phenomenon, not as an outwardly (usually military) phenomenon. But this sole reference does not carry much weight against the more than 50 references to actual armed struggle in the Koran, and even more in the Hadith.

Consistent with Magaard’s textual analysis, the independent study of Australian linguist and renowned Arabic to English translator, Paul Stenhouse, claimed the root of the word jihad appears forty times in the Koran. With four exceptions, Stenhouse maintained, all the other thirty-six usages in the Koran, and in subsequent Islamic understanding to both Muslim luminaries—the greatest jurists and scholars of classical Islam—and to ordinary people, meant and means, as described by the seminal Arabic lexicographer, E. W. Lane: “He fought, warred or waged war against unbelievers and the like.” A concordant modern Muslim definition, relevant to both contemporary jihadism and its shock troop “mujahideen” [holy warriors; see just below], was provided at the “Fourth International Conference of the Academy of Islamic Research,” at Al Azhar University— in 1968, by Muhammad al-Sobki:

[T]he words Al Jihad, Al Mojahadah, or even “striving against enemies” are equivalents and they do not mean especially fighting with the atheists . . . they mean fighting in the general sense.
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Reply #16 - Sep 14th, 2014 at 2:31pm
 
Erudite, honest Danish intellectuals, and academics, spanning 176 years, from Søren Kierkegaard, to, at present, Lars Hedegaard and Tina Magaard, have openly expressed forthright truths about Islam. It is only now, in our sad era, that the free expression of such honest wisdom has been threatened by the mutually abetting totalitarian scourges of cultural relativism, and Islamic supremacism.
http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/2013/02/25/kierkegaard-hedegaard-magaard-and-is...
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Reply #17 - Sep 14th, 2014 at 2:45pm
 
Soren wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 2:31pm:
Erudite, honest Danish intellectuals, and academics, spanning 176 years, from Søren Kierkegaard, to, at present, Lars Hedegaard and Tina Magaard, have openly expressed forthright truths about Islam. It is only now, in our sad era, that the free expression of such honest wisdom has been threatened by the mutually abetting totalitarian scourges of cultural relativism, and Islamic supremacism.
http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/2013/02/25/kierkegaard-hedegaard-magaard-and-is...


I agree, old chap. It’s just what the jihadis say about their religion, no?

That’s the benefit of living in a multicultural society, eh? There are no right or wrong answers here, old chap. Rich tapestry, innit.

Please feel free to share your marvellous culture with us - we’re all friends here. Cheese, kebabs, homos, a nice bit of sausage, we’ll have it all.

Thank you for sharing, dear boy.
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Reply #18 - Sep 14th, 2014 at 2:57pm
 
Karnal wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 2:45pm:
Soren wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 2:31pm:
Erudite, honest Danish intellectuals, and academics, spanning 176 years, from Søren Kierkegaard, to, at present, Lars Hedegaard and Tina Magaard, have openly expressed forthright truths about Islam. It is only now, in our sad era, that the free expression of such honest wisdom has been threatened by the mutually abetting totalitarian scourges of cultural relativism, and Islamic supremacism.
http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/2013/02/25/kierkegaard-hedegaard-magaard-and-is...


I agree, old chap. It’s just what the jihadis say about their religion, no?


No.


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Reply #19 - Sep 14th, 2014 at 5:34pm
 
Soren wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 2:57pm:
Karnal wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 2:45pm:
Soren wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 2:31pm:
Erudite, honest Danish intellectuals, and academics, spanning 176 years, from Søren Kierkegaard, to, at present, Lars Hedegaard and Tina Magaard, have openly expressed forthright truths about Islam. It is only now, in our sad era, that the free expression of such honest wisdom has been threatened by the mutually abetting totalitarian scourges of cultural relativism, and Islamic supremacism.
http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/2013/02/25/kierkegaard-hedegaard-magaard-and-is...


I agree, old chap. It’s just what the jihadis say about their religion, no?


No.




Now now, dear boy, I distinctly read your Soren Kierkergaard writing that Christianity is not about reason per se, but a leap of faith.

Your Danish chaps have a lot more in common with Muhammed than you’d care to admit.

We’re always free to disagree, old boy. That’s what makes us the rich, open society we pride ourselves on, no?
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Reply #20 - Sep 14th, 2014 at 6:45pm
 
Taipan wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 7:34am:
[quote]Here is a list of the most important of those laws, from Sharia for Dummies:
• Jihad defined as “ to war against non-Muslims to establish the religion” is the duty of every Muslim.


As HB has demonstrated, that is not necessarily true.

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•A Caliph can hold office through seizure of power, meaning through force.


As can most politico-religious leaders.  Legitimacy can be gained through many means.  In the case of Caliph, originally it was from direct linage to the Prophet.  After that, it became a case of either being chosen by acclaim or by self-proclamation.   History is replete with numerous examples of similar situations allowing the creation of Princes, Kings, Emperors, etc.

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•A Caliph is exempt from being charged with serious crimes such as murder, adultery, robbery, theft, drinking, and in some cases of rape.


As were kings in other political systems.  Is this important?   Roll Eyes

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•A percentage of Zakat (alms) must go towards jihad.

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Recipients

According to the Quran, there are eight categories of people (asnaf) who qualify to receive zakat funds:[21][22]

    Those living in absolute poverty (Al-Fuqarā').
    Those restrained because they cannot meet their basic needs (Al-Masākīn).
    The zakat collectors themselves (Al-Āmilīna 'Alaihā).
    Non-Muslims who are sympathetic to Islam or wish to convert to Islam (Al-Mu'allafatu Qulūbuhum).
    People whom one is attempting to free from slavery or bondage. Also includes paying ransom or blood money (Diyya). (Fir-Riqāb)
    Those who have incurred overwhelming debts while attempting to satisfy their basic needs (Al-Ghārimīn).
    Those working in God's way (Fī Sabīlillāh).
    Children of the street / Travellers (Ibnus-Sabīl).

According to the Hadith, the family of Muhammad should not consume any Zakat. Zakat should not be given to one's own parents, grandparents, children, grandchildren, or spouses. Also, it is forbidden to disburse zakat funds into investments instead of being directly given to those who are in need.[23]

Some scholars disagree whether the poor who qualify should include Non-Muslims. Some state that Zakat may be paid to non-Muslims, but only after the needs of Muslims have been met.[23]

Fi Sabillillah is the most prominent asnaf in Southeast Asian Muslim societies, where it broadly construed to include funding missionary work, Quranic schools and anything else that serves the community (ummah) in general.[24] Zakat can be used to finance a Jihad effort in the path of Allah. Zakat money should be used provided the effort is to raise the banner of Islam.[25][26]

Additionally, the zakat funds may be spent on the administration of a centralized zakat collection system.[13]

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So, the Zakat can be used to finance a Jihad, however it isn't necessary nor is it obligatory.   The Zakat is also not quite the same as "alms":

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In Islam, the concept of charitable giving is generally divided into voluntary giving, or Sadaqah and the Zakat, an obligatory practice governed by a specific set of rules within Islamic jurisprudence, and intended to fulfill a well defined set of theological and social requirements. For that reason, while Zakat plays a much larger role within Islamic charity, Sadaqah is possibly a better translation of Christian influenced formulations of the notion of 'alms'.

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So we see a deliberate misconstruing of the term "alms" and Zakat, which rather indicates this is bullshit.   Roll Eyes

No wonder it's called a "Dummies' guide to Sharia".    Roll Eyes
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Reply #21 - Sep 14th, 2014 at 6:45pm
 
Taipan wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 7:34am:
[quote]Here is a list of the most important of those laws, from Sharia for Dummies:
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•It is obligatory to obey the commands of the Caliph, even if he is unjust.


How does this differ from the Divine Right of Kings in European and Asian tradition?

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•A Muslim who leaves Islam must be killed immediately.


Yet we have in our midst one who has done that and has not been killed.  Perhaps this isn't necessarily a commandment as much as a suggestion?   Roll Eyes

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•A Muslim will be forgiven for murder of (1) an apostate;  (2) an adulterer;  (3) a highway robber.


AIUI under specific circumstances only.

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•A Muslim will not get the death penalty if he kills a non-Muslim.


Again, only under specific circumstances:
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Does Islam really allow the killing of innocent unbelievers?

This is one misunderstanding that keeps rising up against Islam.   Islam does not in anyway allow for the killing of any innocent soul.  I have gathered some of the Noble Verses that I am aware of that deal directly with war and peace to shed some light upon my readers.

Noble Verses that order the killing of the enemies:

Let us look at Noble Verses 9:28-29 "O ye believe! Truly the pagans are unclear; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque.  And if ye fear povery, soon will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty, For Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise.

Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the last day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of truth, from among the people of the book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Let us look at Noble Verse 9:5 "Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."

As we clearly see in the above Noble Verses, the laws of killing the unbelievers or the pagans were for particular and specific times, and not for all times and all places.  Notice the quotes "...after this year..." and "...when the sacred months have passed...".

It is important to know that when Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him started preaching Islam, he had to deal with 360 Arab pagan tribes at first, and he and his followers had to go through a lot of battles that were imposed upon them by the pagans who were threatened by the new System and Wonderful Religion of Islam.

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•Sharia dictates death by stoning, beheading, amputation of limbs, flogging and other forms of cruel and unusual punishments even for crimes of sin such as adultery.


Yes but again, only under specific circumstances.  They are not general punishments handed out on a whim.

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•Non-Muslims are not equal to Muslims and must comply to Sharia if they are to remain safe. They are forbidden to marry Muslim women, publicly display wine or pork, recite their scriptures or openly celebrate their religious holidays or funerals. They are forbidden from building new churches or building them higher than mosques. They may not enter a mosque without permission.


Actually they aren't, this is bullshit.   Roll Eyes

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•It is a crime for a non-Muslim to sell weapons to someone who will use them against Muslims. Non-Muslims cannot curse a Muslim, say anything derogatory about Allah, the Prophet, or Islam, or expose the weak points of Muslims.


I can't find any reference to the first supposed "crime".  I suspect the others are inflated as well.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #22 - Sep 14th, 2014 at 6:45pm
 
Taipan wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 7:34am:
[quote]Here is a list of the most important of those laws, from Sharia for Dummies:
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•A non-Muslim cannot inherit from a Muslim.


Actually, it's the other way around:

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Generally speaking, and this is also the majority view, a Muslim cannot inherit from a non-Muslim. Although the Hanafi fiqh does allow a Muslim to inherit from an apostate.

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•Banks must be Sharia-compliant, with interest not allowed.


How is this a bad thing?   Roll Eyes

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•No testimony in court is acceptable from people of low-level jobs. Women in such low-level jobs cannot keep custody of their children in case of divorce.


I can't find any reference to testimony of those from "low-level jobs".  However, on the issue of custody:
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Islamic law stipulates that physical custody of the children must go to a Muslim who is in good physical and mental health, and is in the best position to meet the children's needs. Different jurists have established various opinions of how this might best be done. Some have ruled that custody is awarded to the mother if the child is under a certain age, and to the father if the child is older. Others would allow older children to express a preference. Generally, it is recognized that young children and girls are best cared for by their mother.

Since there are differences of opinion among Islamic scholars about child custody, one might find variations in local law. In all cases, however, the main concern is that the children are cared for by a fit parent who can meet their emotional and physical needs.

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Which is rather different to what is claimed.

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•A non-Muslim cannot rule over a non-Muslim minority.


In a word, bullshit.

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•Homosexuality is punishable by death.


The same as it is in Christianity, apparently.

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•There is no age limit for marriage of girls under Sharia. The marriage contract can take place anytime after birth and consummated at age 8 or 9.


Heavily debatable as we have seen in this forum.   Roll Eyes

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•Rebelliousness on the part of the wife nullifies the husband’s obligation to support her.


Can't find any reference to that.

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•Divorce is only in the hands of the husband, and is easy as saying “I divorce you.”


Bullshit.  Women have the right of Divorce as well, under Islamic law.

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•There is no common property between husband and wife, and the husband’s property does not automatically go to the wife after his death.


Not true.
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It is importance to differentiate between inheritance entitlement (mirath) of the widow and the maintenance allowance (nafaqah) of the wife. The two are separate issues.

INHERITANCE
When a Muslim dies there are four duties which need to be performed. These are:
1. payment of funeral expenses
2. payment of his/ her debts
3. execution his/ her will
4. distribution of remaining estate amongst the heirs according to Sharia

Assuming the first 3 duties have been performed the inheritance share of the widow is one-eight (1/8) if the deceased left behind any children or agnatic grandchildren h.l.s. (son’s son; son’s son’s son; son’s daughter etc.)
If the deceased did not leave behind any children or agnatic grandchildren h.l.s. the share of the widow is one-quarter (1/4).
If there is more than one widow they share in the 1/8 or 1/4 as the case may be.

The heirs become owners of the estate of the propositus upon his death.

Note: Only a Muslim widow inherits from her Muslim husband. A non-Muslim wife (Christain/ Jew) does not inherit from her Muslim husband but she can be mentioned in his Will. Non-Muslims cannot inherit from their Muslim relatives according to the 4 Islamic schools of jurisprudence.

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•A woman inherits half of what a man inherits.


See above.

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•A man has the right to have up to four wives,  a wife has no right to divorce him even if he is polygamous.


Wrong.

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•The dowry is given in exchange for the woman’s sexual organs.


No.  That is bullshit.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #23 - Sep 14th, 2014 at 6:45pm
 
Taipan wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 7:34am:
[quote]Here is a list of the most important of those laws, from Sharia for Dummies:
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•The testimony of a woman in court is half the value of a man.


That is true unfortunately.

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•A woman loses custody if she remarries.


Bullshit.

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•To prove rape, a woman must have four male witnesses.


No, that is not right.  This is conflating adultery with rape.  To prove adultery, a woman must have four witnesses.  Rape can be proved through other means of evidence.

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•A Muslim woman must cover every inch of her body, which is considered Awrah — a sexual organ. Some schools of Sharia allow the face to be exposed, others don’t.


Wrong.  That is the interpretation that some Muslims place on the Q'ran which states that only the head and the genitals must be covered.

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•A Muslim man is forgiven if he kills his wife caught in the act of adultery.


I can't find any reference to this.

It appears to me that there is more wrong than there is right with this "Dummies" book.    Roll Eyes
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Reply #24 - Sep 14th, 2014 at 7:16pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 6:45pm:
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•To prove rape, a woman must have four male witnesses.


No, that is not right.  This is conflating adultery with rape.  To prove adultery, a woman must have four witnesses.  Rape can be proved through other means of evidence.




So what is the arabic word for rape, is it zina which means unlawful intercourse or does that word apply to adultery and rape?

Yes the quote is right and as usual you are wrong, if the man does not confess to rape the woman needs 4 male witnesses to prove she has been raped.

If you think you are right you should bugger off over to the UAE and tell them they are doing it all wrong, women get jailed if they don't produce 4 male witnesses when reporting being raped-
https://www.google.com.au/?gws_rd=ssl#q=rape+victim+jailed+uae

What about the homeland of Islam are they doing sharia properly?-
https://www.google.com.au/?gws_rd=ssl#q=rape+victim+jailed-saudi

Do you think a rational person will believe your apologist bullshit or the reality of having to produce 4 male witnesses to prove rape in Saudi Arabia and the UAE?

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Reply #25 - Sep 14th, 2014 at 7:48pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 7:16pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 6:45pm:
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•To prove rape, a woman must have four male witnesses.


No, that is not right.  This is conflating adultery with rape.  To prove adultery, a woman must have four witnesses.  Rape can be proved through other means of evidence.




So what is the arabic word for rape, is it zina which means unlawful intercourse or does that word apply to adultery and rape?

Yes the quote is right and as usual you are wrong, if the man does not confess to rape the woman needs 4 male witnesses to prove she has been raped.


No, she does not.  In Islam Law, you can prove rape through other means:
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Evidence Required

Obviously, it would be a horrible injustice for an innocent man to be falsely accused of a capital crime such as rape. To safeguard the rights of the accused, the crime must be proven with evidence in court. There have been various historical interpretations of Islamic law, but the most common legal practice is that the crime of rape may be proven by:

    Witness testimony - The testimony of four witnesses to the act itself is traditionally the requirement to prove adultery under Islamic law. Most Islamic scholars, however, recognize that adultery is voluntary while rape is coerced. Thus they have moved beyond requiring this evidence alone to prove sexual assault.
    Confession - The full and complete confession of the perpetrator is accepted as evidence under Islamic law.
    Physical evidence - Even in early Islamic history, many Islamic jurists accepted physical evidence to prove a woman's lack of consent. As forensic science becomes more adept at providing physical evidence of sexual assault, such evidence is more commonly accepted.

These strict evidence requirements are needed for rape to be considered a capital offense . If the sexual assault cannot be proven to such a degree, Islamic courts may have discretion to find the man guilty but order a less severe punishment, such as jail time or monetary fines. According to several classical interpretations of Islam, the victim is entitled to monetary compensation for her loss as well, in addition to the state asserting its right to prosecute.

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Further, it depends about how Sh'ria is interpreted when legislated into law and it varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, Baron.  In Iran, what is taken as proof for rape is:
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    confession
    witness
    Qusameh (قسامه)
    oath
    Certainty of judge
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Reference of law

According to the no. 5 one way of certainty of judge is the certificate of Iranian Legal Medicine Organization.

Being raped can be proved for judge by any method that can ensure the judge. in such cases the raped woman can ask for legal certificate from the local office of Iranian Legal Medicine Organization and use it at court. this organization makes different tests and investigations from cloths and body of woman and issues the official assessment. this is the usual procedure in such cases in Iran.

The four witnesses mentioned in Quran is for accusation of adultery to a chaste woman which is a different case.

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If you think you are right you should bugger off over to the UAE and tell them they are doing it all wrong, women get jailed if they don't produce 4 male witnesses when reporting being raped-
https://www.google.com.au/?gws_rd=ssl#q=rape+victim+jailed+uae


Why do you assume they are doing it right, Baron?   They using one interpretation of those Q'ranic verses.  Other jurisdictions use other interpretations.   You seem like most Takfiri to assume there is only one  interpretation - your own.   Roll Eyes

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Reply #26 - Sep 14th, 2014 at 8:01pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 7:48pm:
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If you think you are right you should bugger off over to the UAE and tell them they are doing it all wrong, women get jailed if they don't produce 4 male witnesses when reporting being raped-
https://www.google.com.au/?gws_rd=ssl#q=rape+victim+jailed+uae


Why do you assume they are doing it right, Baron?



Like i said if you think they are wrong you should bugger off over there and set it right instead of bullshitting to everyone here.

I will take reality with the law of the land over your spineless apologetics.
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Reply #27 - Sep 14th, 2014 at 11:02pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 8:01pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 7:48pm:
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If you think you are right you should bugger off over to the UAE and tell them they are doing it all wrong, women get jailed if they don't produce 4 male witnesses when reporting being raped-
https://www.google.com.au/?gws_rd=ssl#q=rape+victim+jailed+uae


Why do you assume they are doing it right, Baron?



Like i said if you think they are wrong you should bugger off over there and set it right instead of bullshitting to everyone here.

I will take reality with the law of the land over your spineless apologetics.


So, in otherwords, you won't accept the reality that there are multiple interpretations to the one concept in Sh'ria Law?

How unsurprising.  It's like your efforts to treat Islam and more importantly Muslims as they are all members of the Borg, controlled from Mecca.   I suppose it makes them easier to argue against, rather than arguing to the reality that there are as many different interpretations of Islam as there are Muslims!   

I also note your continued effort to attack the messenger (me) rather than address the message.   Hardly surprising really for a Takifir mindset like yours. Roll Eyes
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How unsurprising.  It's like your efforts to treat Islam and more importantly Muslims as they are all members of the Borg, controlled from Mecca.


Gandalf used that reasoning to justify Muhammed executing 800 Jews in one day.
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Soren wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 2:28pm:
|dev|null wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 11:20am:
Whereas you only seek out the bad stuff because you have a preconceived notion in your noggin to satisfy your Islamophobic bigotry.  None of the things you just quoted negate the points the Wikipedia article said.   Sometimes it better to go to a general article which provides a broad overview of a topic than it is to seek out specific examples.  It allows you to understand the concept, rather than just focus on examples.   Having an open mind also helps.  However, we know in your case that isn't possible.   



Here you are:


There is just one historically relevant meaning of jihad despite the surfeit of contemporary apologetics. Dr. Tina Magaard—a Sorbonne-trained linguist specializing in textual analysis—published detailed research findings in 2005 (summarized in 2007) comparing the foundational texts of ten major religions. Magaard concluded from her hard data-driven analyses:

The texts in Islam distinguish themselves from the texts of other religions by encouraging violence and aggression against people with other religious beliefs to a larger degree [emphasis added]. There are also straightforward calls for terror. This has long been a taboo in the research into Islam, but it is a fact that we need to deal with.

For example, in her 2007 essay “Fjendebilleder og voldsforestillinger i islamiske grundtekster” [“Images of enemies and conceptions of violence in Islamic core scriptures”], Magaard observed,

There are 36 references in the Koran to expressions derived from the root qa-ta-la, which indicates fighting, killing or being killed. The expressions derived from the root ja-ha-da, which the word jihad stems from, are more ambiguous since they mean “to struggle” or “to make an effort” rather than killing. Yet almost all of the references derived from this root are found in stories that leave no room for doubt regarding the violent nature of this struggle. Only a single ja-ha-da reference (29:6) explicitly presents the struggle as an inner, spiritual phenomenon, not as an outwardly (usually military) phenomenon. But this sole reference does not carry much weight against the more than 50 references to actual armed struggle in the Koran, and even more in the Hadith.

Consistent with Magaard’s textual analysis, the independent study of Australian linguist and renowned Arabic to English translator, Paul Stenhouse, claimed the root of the word jihad appears forty times in the Koran. With four exceptions, Stenhouse maintained, all the other thirty-six usages in the Koran, and in subsequent Islamic understanding to both Muslim luminaries—the greatest jurists and scholars of classical Islam—and to ordinary people, meant and means, as described by the seminal Arabic lexicographer, E. W. Lane: “He fought, warred or waged war against unbelievers and the like.” A concordant modern Muslim definition, relevant to both contemporary jihadism and its shock troop “mujahideen” [holy warriors; see just below], was provided at the “Fourth International Conference of the Academy of Islamic Research,” at Al Azhar University— in 1968, by Muhammad al-Sobki:

[T]he words Al Jihad, Al Mojahadah, or even “striving against enemies” are equivalents and they do not mean especially fighting with the atheists . . . they mean fighting in the general sense.
http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/2014/09/11/911-and-jihad-terror-a-legacy-of-ove...



I don't accept the validity of that source.  It starts from a pre-concieved position and then attempts to find evidence to prove it.  The reality is that like most words, "jihad" has multiple meanings, depending on the context in which it's used.  In one context it means "armed struggle" in another it would mean "personal struggle".   You however, like most bigots choose only the definition that supports your extreme viewpoint.  Your mind is closed to any alternatives.  Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin
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