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Re: Aust to send force of 600 to Mid East
Reply #30 - Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:36pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:32pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:01pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 6:52pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 6:39pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 6:33pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 6:16pm:

Perses wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 5:09pm:

Tony wabbit is a total tool.

Good to see you are happy to let the Islamic State terrorists carry on killing innocents, with no response from Western nations.

4 times the Americans, and by extension us, have gone to the middle east to 'prevent the killing of innocents' and 4 times they've left it in much worse condition than when they got there ...

when will they learn that sending troops there is not the answer?

So what IS the answer then??

the short answer, nuke the whole middle east and be done with it

the long answer, Islam is where christianity was 800 - 900 yrs ago .... back then if you tried to tell the church they were wrong in their beliefs they would have beheaded you too .... it'll take time for Islam to work through it, lots of time ... but only they can work it out, outside influence will only be seen as an attack. I'll also point out that they have one major disadvantage that the church didn't, they don't have a heirarcy that the lower echelons follow ... any nutjob who calls himself an iman can say what he likes and some d1ckhead will believe it. There is no quick fix.

Which would be all well and good, if Islam didn't have access to modern weaponry and technology. The extremists inside Islam have never shown the slightest interest in evolving.

And the 'modernisation of Christianity was very long and bloody process, which, in a nuclear and CBW world, would not be confined purely to Islam, or the Middle East.

modern weaponry? they have a few guns and rockets, nothing we really need to worry about, and anything they have they'll use on each other long before it has a chance to get to Australia ...

extremists of any nature don't ever wish to evolve ... but Islam will evolve regardless

if they ever gain nuclear capability then we can go back to my first solution and carpet bomb the whole middle east with nukes, until then, we've nothing to worry about ....

We've got nothing to worry about hey. That's what Neville Chamberlain said. Only the other day a dude got arrested who's brother was so hardcore he suicide bombed himself in Iraq. We have people in our country who consider themselves ISIL. They are here already.

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Re: Aust to send force of 600 to Mid East
Reply #31 - Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:40pm

jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:36pm:

We've got nothing to worry about hey. That's what Neville Chamberlain said. Only the other day a dude got arrested who's brother was so hardcore he suicide bombed himself in Iraq. We have people in our country who consider themselves ISIL. They are here already.

if you check Australias history, you'll find we've always had fruitloops of some form or other ... so what ? One guy talking himself up in the suburbs is not a reason to go to war.

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Re: Aust to send force of 600 to Mid East
Reply #32 - Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:40pm

freediver wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:36pm:

What do you think they will be doing Aussie?

My guess is that they are SAS....and will be boots on the ground.

Stop dodging freediver.......the fundamental question is this:

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I want you to tell me where that right comes from.

Why have we declared War on a group of people in some strange land we have no sovereign interest in?

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Re: Aust to send force of 600 to Mid East
Reply #33 - Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:41pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:32pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:01pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 6:52pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 6:39pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 6:33pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 6:16pm:

Perses wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 5:09pm:

Tony wabbit is a total tool.

Good to see you are happy to let the Islamic State terrorists carry on killing innocents, with no response from Western nations.

4 times the Americans, and by extension us, have gone to the middle east to 'prevent the killing of innocents' and 4 times they've left it in much worse condition than when they got there ...

when will they learn that sending troops there is not the answer?

So what IS the answer then??

the short answer, nuke the whole middle east and be done with it

the long answer, Islam is where christianity was 800 - 900 yrs ago .... back then if you tried to tell the church they were wrong in their beliefs they would have beheaded you too .... it'll take time for Islam to work through it, lots of time ... but only they can work it out, outside influence will only be seen as an attack. I'll also point out that they have one major disadvantage that the church didn't, they don't have a heirarcy that the lower echelons follow ... any nutjob who calls himself an iman can say what he likes and some d1ckhead will believe it. There is no quick fix.

Which would be all well and good, if Islam didn't have access to modern weaponry and technology. The extremists inside Islam have never shown the slightest interest in evolving.

And the 'modernisation of Christianity was very long and bloody process, which, in a nuclear and CBW world, would not be confined purely to Islam, or the Middle East.

modern weaponry? they have a few guns and rockets, nothing we really need to worry about, and anything they have they'll use on each other long before it has a chance to get to Australia ...

extremists of any nature don't ever wish to evolve ... but Islam will evolve regardless

if they ever gain nuclear capability then we can go back to my first solution and carpet bomb the whole middle east with nukes, until then, we've nothing to worry about ....

Sorry, but the extremists groups around NOW (ISIS, Hamas etc) only have a few guns and rockets. But if it comes to a full on Reformation of Islam type deal (ala any of the Catholic/Christian Reformation) that may well change. So far, the technologically advance Arab nations have stayed pretty much on the sidelines, but an all out Sunni vs Shii'te religious war wouldn't allow them to do that.

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Re: Aust to send force of 600 to Mid East
Reply #34 - Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:42pm

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We've got nothing to worry about hey. That's what Neville Chamberlain said. Only the other day a dude got arrested who's brother was so hardcore he suicide bombed himself in Iraq. We have people in our country who consider themselves ISIL. They are here already.

When they attack me here, I'll happily blow their fphucking heads off.......here.

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Reply #35 - Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:43pm

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freediver wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:16pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:05pm:

Sounds good to me. These people need to be stopped.

Sure.....but what the ferk has it got to do with us? Let the Arabs fight it out ~ where they live. We have zero sovereign interest in it. Are we now the 'evil' whisperer? Nah. There is evil everywhere.

This is pure and simple Abbott's War declared for electoral support. I hope the very violent street demos start tomorrow......very violent to match the violence we will commit where we have no right to be. Is there anyone here who can explain to me what right we have to start killing Arabs.....good ones or bad ones......on their soil/sand? That'll be jolly.

Ferk you and your crap, Abbott/freediver!

What does the poo-hole that is modern Iraq have to do with us? Hmmm, let me think....

What you are saying is no different to appeasers in the 30's insisting that Hitler slaughtering Jews is not their problem. This is not the sort of problem that will go away if we ignore it. The Iraqis could contain it, but when the yanks first started crapping on ISIS from a great height, it stopped them in their tracks. We are not even sending in ground troops. This is a training run for our air force.

Your ignorance is not bliss. It is blind to reality.

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and about 200 military personnel will be involved in the deployment.

You have not explained what right we have to be murdering Arabs. I want you to tell me where that right comes from.

you care not a jot about people shot down in a plane and now you want to care about people who commit murder and genocide????

where does the right come from??? a place you will never know about because cowards never enter there.

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Re: Aust to send force of 600 to Mid East
Reply #36 - Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:43pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:41pm:

Sorry, but the extremists groups around NOW (ISIS, Hamas etc) only have a few guns and rockets. But if it comes to a full on Reformation of Islam type deal (ala any of the Catholic/Christian Reformation) that may well change. So far, the technologically advance Arab nations have stayed pretty much on the sidelines, but an all out Sunni vs Shii'te religious war wouldn't allow them to do that.

I'm happy to go back to my first option any time .....

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Re: Aust to send force of 600 to Mid East
Reply #37 - Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:44pm

Perses wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 5:08pm:

Australia's contribution will include up to eight Super Hornet combat aircraft, an early warning and control aircraft and aerial refuelling aircraft.A contingent of Special Forces will be sent to potentially act as military advisers to Iraqi and other security forces.Four hundred air personnel and about 200 military personnel will be involved in the deployment. - See more at: http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2014/09/14/aust-to-send-force-of-600-to-mid-east.html#sthash.ZmOXUAHs.dpuf

Our FA-18 use the Israeli designed LITENING target pod for our precision weapons,tried and proven military technology, the same Israeli company made the pill camera you swallow to film your digestive system.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LITENING

It looks like 200 of our finest SAS troops will be on the ground giving coordinates to the planes for aerial strikes.

The Saudis-Iraqis-UAE etc all have impressive military hardware,they have no understanding of logistics or maintenance to keep this hardware operational for any length of time.

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Reply #39 - Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:46pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:40pm:

jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:36pm:

We've got nothing to worry about hey. That's what Neville Chamberlain said. Only the other day a dude got arrested who's brother was so hardcore he suicide bombed himself in Iraq. We have people in our country who consider themselves ISIL. They are here already.

if you check Australias history, you'll find we've always had fruitloops of some form or other ... so what ? One guy talking himself up in the suburbs is not a reason to go to war.

There's a lot more to the issue than is being talked about. One issue is Israel. Do nothing about ISIL but it won't go away. Get involved and the terrorist threat will go up here . I'm afraid the terrorist threat will always be because we are western and mostly Christian. Sick old world.

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Re: Aust to send force of 600 to Mid East
Reply #40 - Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:48pm

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you care not a jot about people shot down in a plane and now you want to care about people who commit murder and genocide????

where does the right come from??? a place you will never know about because cowards never enter there.

'A place,' hey? Where is this place? How much does it cost to get there, and do I need a visa. Does QANTAS have regular flights to it, huh melielongtime?

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Reply #42 - Sep 14^th, 2014 at 8:11pm

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Reply #43 - Sep 14^th, 2014 at 8:29pm

Aussie,
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all see through the deceptions

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.....upon this mother earth

with so very much love

so be it

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I see that master Light has converted you too.

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Reply #44 - Sep 14^th, 2014 at 8:53pm

jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:46pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:40pm:

jockohomo3d wrote on Sep 14^th, 2014 at 7:36pm:

We've got nothing to worry about hey. That's what Neville Chamberlain said. Only the other day a dude got arrested who's brother was so hardcore he suicide bombed himself in Iraq. We have people in our country who consider themselves ISIL. They are here already.

if you check Australias history, you'll find we've always had fruitloops of some form or other ... so what ? One guy talking himself up in the suburbs is not a reason to go to war.

There's a lot more to the issue than is being talked about. One issue is Israel. Do nothing about ISIL but it won't go away. Get involved and the terrorist threat will go up here . I'm afraid the terrorist threat will always be because we are western and mostly Christian. Sick old world.

I agree, the issue is very complex ... thats why there is no quick fix, sending soldiers won't fix a thing, it'll just turn more people against the west

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