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Reply #45 - Sep 14th, 2014 at 8:54pm
 
Yay!!! A war!

Budget? What budget?
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Reply #46 - Sep 14th, 2014 at 9:52pm
 
Aussie wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 7:40pm:
Why have we declared War on a group of people in some strange land we have no sovereign interest in?


FD doesn't think we screwed up Iraq quite enough the first time around.

He'll also call me a spineless apologist and/or "typical muslim [insert stereotype]" for even hinting that the power vacuum we created in Iraq had anything to do with the rise of ISIS.
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Re: Aust to send force of 600 to Mid East
Reply #47 - Sep 14th, 2014 at 10:58pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 9:52pm:
Aussie wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 7:40pm:
Why have we declared War on a group of people in some strange land we have no sovereign interest in?


FD doesn't think we screwed up Iraq quite enough the first time around.

He'll also call me a spineless apologist and/or "typical muslim [insert stereotype]" for even hinting that the power vacuum we created in Iraq had anything to do with the rise of ISIS.


It took me a couple of years, Muso even less....to work out the guy is of bugger all worth.  All he is good for is trolling for comment to put into his Wiki.  Surely you know that?? Yeas?

I've never met anyone anywhere on the www as principled as was Muso.
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Reply #48 - Sep 15th, 2014 at 6:05am
 

I am a clairvoyant. Didn't I say on this very forum that if Abbott gets elected he will take us into another war? Abbott's been piddling his pants for a war since day one. I'd like to hear the phone call from Obama asking for our help, or maybe that's fake too, just like Abbott's sympathy when a soldier comes home in a coffin.

Next thing......youth unemployment = conscription

Come on boys and girls, another ten years in the middle east fighting the US created enemy.

Tony must have a war levy to send more money to Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and Qatar to keep the terrorists fully mobile. Always remember.....no enemy, no war.
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Reply #49 - Sep 15th, 2014 at 7:22am
 
Actions needed to be taken by Freedom loving Nations to stop the Genocide that ISIS is carrying out.

The world stood silent when Hitler rose to power until it became such a problem that the world had no choice.

Far better to attack this before ISIS becomes all powerful in the Middle East. It's genocide of Christians and Muslims alike cannot be condoned.

For too long the world has stood silent, whilst terrible genocides have taken place.

We can't expect the U.S. to do it by themselves.

What some are saying on this subject that it's O.K. for genocides to occur as long as it's not affecting us. I'm not buying that.
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Re: Aust to send force of 600 to Mid East
Reply #50 - Sep 15th, 2014 at 7:44am
 
Aussie wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 7:40pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 7:36pm:
What do you think they will be doing Aussie?


My guess is that they are SAS....and will be boots on the ground.

Stop dodging freediver.......the fundamental question is this:

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I want you to tell me where that right comes from.


Why have we declared War on a group of people in some strange land we have no sovereign interest in?


The closest they will come to boots on the ground is training Iraqis and Kurds. 200 is not a ground invasion force.

We are there because ISIS are evil and we are in a position to help stop them. We are there because the Iraqi government asked for our help. We are there because we owe it to them to finish what we started.
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Reply #51 - Sep 15th, 2014 at 7:45am
 
Aussie wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 7:42pm:
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We've got nothing to worry about hey. That's what Neville Chamberlain said. Only the other day a dude got arrested who's brother was so hardcore he suicide bombed himself in Iraq. We have people in our country who consider themselves ISIL. They are here already.


When they attack me here, I'll happily blow their fphucking heads off.......here.



It just goes to prove how little you know about strategic defence.


Even a child understands you don't wait until they are attacking you in your own back yard, you don't claim hero status by hiding behind women and children until it is too late. You go out and kill your enemy in their front yard and you do it fast as you can.


I wish our troops all the best and a speedy return and once again our troops do their job with great professionalism and without complaint.



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Reply #52 - Sep 15th, 2014 at 7:53am
 
Aussie wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 7:42pm:
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We've got nothing to worry about hey. That's what Neville Chamberlain said. Only the other day a dude got arrested who's brother was so hardcore he suicide bombed himself in Iraq. We have people in our country who consider themselves ISIL. They are here already.


When they attack me here, I'll happily blow their fphucking heads off.......here.


And who will be left to help you out? Divide yourself and be conquered eh?
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Reply #53 - Sep 15th, 2014 at 8:02am
 
freediver wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 7:05pm:
Sounds good to me. These people need to be stopped.


Maybe not.

The history of the Middle East is that they butcher and murder one another for tribal and religious reasons until finally a strong dictator emerges who brings peace and stability to the warring sides through mini-genocides, torture chambers, and localised gassings.

If left alone, this latest Islamic horde of Medieval savages will eventually establish a dictatorial caliphate from which successive ayatollahs will make sure there is no insurrection, and the tribal warlords will all behave themselves while paying taxes on their opium production.

And should the West ~ particularly the Americans ~ try to militarily interfere with this scene of domestic bliss ~ they will, as usual, be condemned by one-and-all as monsters of conceit for trying to bring democracy and personal freedom to the inhabitants.

'Islamic State' is best left well enough alone to fulfil its historic destiny for being just the latest in a long tradition of how Arabs have always decided who should rule over them.

We westerners don't understand how much these Middle Eastern Muslims appreciate and respect leaderships that are achieved through violence and mass-slaughter. 

Needless to say, it's a no-brainer that we should be dropping more sophisticated weaponry to the Islamic State fighters to hurry things up a bit.

The quicker they achieve their ends, the sooner we can all relax and go back to what we were doing.

As things are now, Iraq is going to drain our national funds for years to come to the tune of billions each year in order to keep things politically 'stable' over there. Abbott is committing Australia to becoming embedded in Iraq at enormous cost to our economy.

And the question begs: Where are the blue-helmeted UN forces in Iraq? Why aren't they over there fighting IS and maintaining a policing action there ~ and sharing the expence of these operations?






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Re: Aust to send force of 600 to Mid East
Reply #54 - Sep 15th, 2014 at 8:51am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 8:02am:
freediver wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 7:05pm:
Sounds good to me. These people need to be stopped.


Maybe not.

The history of the Middle East is that they butcher and murder one another for tribal and religious reasons until finally a strong dictator emerges who brings peace and stability to the warring sides through mini-genocides, torture chambers, and localised gassings.

If left alone, this latest Islamic horde of Medieval savages will eventually establish a dictatorial caliphate from which successive ayatollahs will make sure there is no insurrection, and the tribal warlords will all behave themselves while paying taxes on their opium production.

And should the West ~ particularly the Americans ~ try to militarily interfere with this scene of domestic bliss ~ they will, as usual, be condemned by one-and-all as monsters of conceit for trying to bring democracy and personal freedom to the inhabitants.

'Islamic State' is best left well enough alone to fulfil its historic destiny for being just the latest in a long tradition of how Arabs have always decided who should rule over them.

We westerners don't understand how much these Middle Eastern Muslims appreciate and respect leaderships that are achieved through violence and mass-slaughter. 

Needless to say, it's a no-brainer that we should be dropping more sophisticated weaponry to the Islamic State fighters to hurry things up a bit.

The quicker they achieve their ends, the sooner we can all relax and go back to what we were doing.

As things are now, Iraq is going to drain our national funds for years to come to the tune of billions each year in order to keep things politically 'stable' over there. Abbott is committing Australia to becoming embedded in Iraq at enormous cost to our economy.

And the question begs: Where are the blue-helmeted UN forces in Iraq? Why aren't they over there fighting IS and maintaining a policing action there ~ and sharing the expence of these operations?



because the UN is utterly ineffective and useless.  Even when they DO do anything of note it is still the USA an NATO that does all the work while the whiners do nothing, as always.
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Re: Aust to send force of 600 to Mid East
Reply #55 - Sep 15th, 2014 at 9:42am
 
Aussie wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 6:08pm:
This 'arab kills arab' shitfight against 'evil' has nothing to do with us....and don't even attempt to discuss with me Abbott's motives in getting us involved.  This has zero relevance to any Treaty ~ nothing.  It is Abbott's War, not Australia's or even Team Australia's.

Ferk you Abbott.  There is evil everywhere on the Planet not just in Iraq/Syria.

Bloody warmongering arsehole!



With full support of the ALP – slipped your mind no doubt, you would be such a disingenuous tool deliberately, would you?


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Reply #56 - Sep 15th, 2014 at 5:38pm
 
gone wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 6:42pm:
Dumb, brainwashed canon fodder


You mean Perses?? YES, he really is..
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Reply #57 - Sep 15th, 2014 at 5:40pm
 
freediver wrote on Sep 15th, 2014 at 7:53am:
Aussie wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 7:42pm:
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We've got nothing to worry about hey. That's what Neville Chamberlain said. Only the other day a dude got arrested who's brother was so hardcore he suicide bombed himself in Iraq. We have people in our country who consider themselves ISIL. They are here already.


When they attack me here, I'll happily blow their fphucking heads off.......here.


And who will be left to help you out? Divide yourself and be conquered eh?


Yep..that is basically the problem..idiots seem to think if it 'hasn't happened here, it never will'..
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Re: Aust to send force of 600 to Mid East
Reply #58 - Sep 15th, 2014 at 8:36pm
 
Life_goes_on wrote on Sep 14th, 2014 at 8:54pm:
Yay!!! A war!

Budget? What budget?



The Guv should just bite the bullet and sell War Bonds.... get some decent sidearms, something about 7.62 calibre..... goes better than 200-300 yards... with accuracy.... and goes through smaller trees, too.  Bloke I know copped a leg wound, went down in the killing zone, and his mate shot the other guy through a palm tree... right through both.... good old 7.62....
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Reply #59 - Sep 16th, 2014 at 7:41am
 

The Islamic State fighters are using captured US weapons given to moderate rebels in Syria by Saudi Arabia. "Captured US weapons?" Where and how are they "capturing" these US weapons? Let's call it for what it is... The US is illegally arming and flaming these conflicts. No enemy = no war.

Look throughout history, all the great empires were collapsing prior to wars.  USA national debt, $16 trillion and growing, plenty of reason to keep the war machine rolling. Go out with a fight.....why not?

Pesky old Putin got in the way of the first attempt to get Assad by intervening with peaceful negotiations, but the US will always create a reason to overtake middle eastern nations.

Go war!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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