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Reply #120 - Oct 1^st, 2014 at 9:12am

Karnal wrote on Sep 29^th, 2014 at 9:23pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 29^th, 2014 at 11:31am:

Muslims whose women are not covered up but go about their lives freely and equally, who share a bottle of wine over dinner, who are intellectually curious about things outside islam, dress and speek without islamic affectations, who work and otherwise participate in the civic and social life of the country, who actively avoid muslim ghettos - they are no threat to anyone and are respected and appreciated like averyone else who likewise fits in and contributes.

Ah. You mean non-deviate Muslims.

Shurely shome mishtake.

I know a few. You?

Me too, bozo. I know quite a few. I know one - rare bird, that one - who even recognises and supports Israel. Doesn’t take the koran and mohammed seriously. That’s the key.

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Reply #121 - Oct 1^st, 2014 at 12:19pm

Lot more them than you think. Whats the average Mosque attendance in Australia? Brian quotes a figure of about 45%. Thats not much higher than attendance at Church apparently. You lot seem to think every Muslim is brainwashed by the Imam and that they all go religiously(!) to Mosque every week to get their instructions in Terrorism... Grin

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Reply #122 - Oct 1^st, 2014 at 12:39pm

Thank you mini Brainless, like I said just in the previous post you actually quote but evidently do not comprehend (whats new?) - those who do not follow the koran and mohammed, drink wine with their dinner, let their women flourish without hijabs and worse, work and participate in the cultural and artistic and other gifts of western enlightenment - they are ok, nobody is bothered by them.

I know you are not thick on purpose but just are. Nobody could pretend to be as thick as you.
I suggest behavioural therapy. Count to ten thousand before you say or post anything. That should give you some time to control some of the most startlingly idiotic things that obviously pop into your head with disturbing relentlessness.
Give it a try. If nothing else, it would lessen our suffering. So be compassionate.
start now... 1...

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Reply #124 - Oct 1^st, 2014 at 5:01pm

|dev|null wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 3:13pm:

So Soren why do you keep acting as if all Muslims are in the latter group? Why do you make so little effort to differentiate between moderates and extremists Soren

When they are all dressed up as devout muslims, beards, hijabs, niqabs, inshalllahing I can’t tell them apart. Can you?
Can’t really go up to every one of them and ask. So I have to go by the signals they send out themselves: here they are but deport themselves as if they woul like to be in the Middle East. That doesn’t say they are happy here.

The lapsed muslims aren’t followers of the koran and mohammed so they are not really relevant when we talk about Islamic ideology and its devotees.

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Reply #125 - Oct 1^st, 2014 at 9:32pm

Soren wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 5:01pm:

|dev|null wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 3:13pm:

So Soren why do you keep acting as if all Muslims are in the latter group? Why do you make so little effort to differentiate between moderates and extremists Soren

When they are all dressed up as devout muslims, beards, hijabs, niqabs, inshalllahing I can’t tell them apart. Can you?
Can’t really go up to every one of them and ask. So I have to go by the signals they send out themselves: here they are but deport themselves as if they woul like to be in the Middle East. That doesn’t say they are happy here.

Surely you judge your other, fellow Australians by their actions and deeds, Soren? Why make an exception for Muslims and instead judge them on your prejudices? Roll Eyes

You make no effort to differentiate between "lapsed" and "observant" Muslims, Soren. Absolutely no effort, you just attack "Muslims" without any qualification. Typical bigotry. Roll Eyes

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Reply #126 - Oct 1^st, 2014 at 11:18pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 9:32pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 5:01pm:

|dev|null wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 3:13pm:

So Soren why do you keep acting as if all Muslims are in the latter group? Why do you make so little effort to differentiate between moderates and extremists Soren

When they are all dressed up as devout muslims, beards, hijabs, niqabs, inshalllahing I can’t tell them apart. Can you?
Can’t really go up to every one of them and ask. So I have to go by the signals they send out themselves: here they are but deport themselves as if they woul like to be in the Middle East. That doesn’t say they are happy here.

Surely you judge your other, fellow Australians by their actions and deeds, Soren? Why make an exception for Muslims and instead judge them on your prejudices? Roll Eyes

You make no effort to differentiate between "lapsed" and "observant" Muslims, Soren. Absolutely no effort, you just attack "Muslims" without any qualification. Typical bigotry. Roll Eyes

You left off the bit of my post where i did make distinction, you dishonest, spineless fool.

My other fellow Australians do not present themselves (action and deed) in a manner calculated to demonstrate opposition to the norms and customs of the place. The ones that do are called out as antisocial.

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Reply #127 - Oct 1^st, 2014 at 11:50pm

Soren wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 11:18pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 9:32pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 5:01pm:

|dev|null wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 3:13pm:

So Soren why do you keep acting as if all Muslims are in the latter group? Why do you make so little effort to differentiate between moderates and extremists Soren

When they are all dressed up as devout muslims, beards, hijabs, niqabs, inshalllahing I can’t tell them apart. Can you?
Can’t really go up to every one of them and ask. So I have to go by the signals they send out themselves: here they are but deport themselves as if they woul like to be in the Middle East. That doesn’t say they are happy here.

Surely you judge your other, fellow Australians by their actions and deeds, Soren? Why make an exception for Muslims and instead judge them on your prejudices? Roll Eyes

You make no effort to differentiate between "lapsed" and "observant" Muslims, Soren. Absolutely no effort, you just attack "Muslims" without any qualification. Typical bigotry. Roll Eyes

You left off the bit of my post where i did make distinction, you dishonest, spineless fool.

My other fellow Australians do not present themselves (action and deed) in a manner calculated to demonstrate opposition to the norms and customs of the place. The ones that do are called out as antisocial.

Yes, old boy, but we do make an.exception for your prophet Freud, peace be upon him.

His jolly beard was hardly designed to oppose the norms and customs of the place.

Santa Claus, on the other hand -

Ban him.

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Reply #128 - Oct 14^th, 2014 at 8:48am

Is there anything more corrosive to the credibility [and more damaging to the electability] of a political party, than when politicians from political party's are seen to be blatantly lying, to those whose charge [i.e. duty] it is, to elect them to office ?

And is there anything more damaging to our democratic political system, than the systematic corruption [of purpose of democracy] through the systematic and blatant lying of our political and national leaders ?

Lying politicians and the corruption of purpose of democracy - being openly exposed to public view - are the principle causes of instability in the democratic system of government, and they are the principle cause of the corrosion of confidence - among citizens - in the democratic system of government, imo.

Self serving and deceitful politicians have subverted and damaged both the purpose and the function of modern democracy, imo.

Why is this happening ?

Why are our national politicians leaders doing this ?

And why is political instability our certain future, in 'Western hemisphere' countries ?

We should not blame 'others'.

It is our own tolerance of [a culture of] LAWLESSNESS [in our own 'bosom'] that will be our downfall.i

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Reply #129 - Oct 14^th, 2014 at 9:52am

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 9:32pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 5:01pm:

|dev|null wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 3:13pm:

So Soren why do you keep acting as if all Muslims are in the latter group? Why do you make so little effort to differentiate between moderates and extremists Soren

When they are all dressed up as devout muslims, beards, hijabs, niqabs, inshalllahing I can’t tell them apart. Can you?
Can’t really go up to every one of them and ask. So I have to go by the signals they send out themselves: here they are but deport themselves as if they woul like to be in the Middle East. That doesn’t say they are happy here.

Surely you judge your other, fellow Australians by their actions and deeds, Soren? Why make an exception for Muslims and instead judge them on your prejudices? Roll Eyes

You make no effort to differentiate between "lapsed" and "observant" Muslims, Soren. Absolutely no effort, you just attack "Muslims" without any qualification. Typical bigotry. Roll Eyes

By your stupid reckoning we should insist that you be treated as a religious Christian because you were baptised.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1412730103/28#28

But if you do not believe in the Koran and do not take Mohammed seriously, you cannot be called a Muslim. Requiring this statement to be appended to every utterance criticising Islam is stupid, Brain.

Moderate muslims - if you believe in the Korean, sunnah and Mohammed's example, you are not moderate.

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