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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 106315 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Ragheads under arrest in Australia Reply #135 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:24pm Latest News ABC 24: George Brandis admitted on TV that the plot was about the beheading of an Australian & videoing it.
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Reply #136 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:25pm

Quantum wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:02pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 3:57pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 3:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 2:03pm:

Quantum wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 1:54pm:

An alleged terrorist plot

VS

An alleged government conspiracy to use the courts, intelligence agency, and law enforcement, so as to stage an alleged terrorist plot, so as to create fear in the public and allow the government greater control over the masses. Mind you, Alleged only on an internet forum

Such a hard choice to know what's more likely Roll Eyes

You don't have to make a choice: you just have to understand that they are both alleged.

the true coward hides behind words.

Probably. You've hidden behind many other things, so it's hard to keep track.

Bottom line is, you're scared to death of Muslims and I'm not.

Enjoy living the rest of your "life" looking over your shoulder and jumping at shadows.

and yet,. not one single person has said anything even remotely like it. are we concerned at a plan to abduct people and behead them? yes. the only question would be why you aren't even if it is unlikely to affect you.

you are like aussie. I seriously doubt you care about anyone at all.

Alleged plan.

You're scared witless.

Get a hold of yourself, "man".

Give us your credit card number, account number, and any pins or security codes that go with it. I know you are supposed to keep that all secret, but that is only because there are people out there wanting to take what is not theirs. Well, at least allegedly.

No, not 'allegedly': it actually happens every day.

When was the last Muslim terrorist attack in this country?

Take your time ...

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Reply #137 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:27pm

Datalife wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:19pm:

Tis an odd thing, on a political forum, when Australian Muslims are overseas posing with heads, Peccerhead taunts those who think that domestic Islamic terrorism is an issue that needs to be addressed as scaredy cats.

Or maybe odd is the wrong word and moronic is more apt.

There's been a domestic Islamic terrorist attack?

When was that, exactly?

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Re: Ragheads under arrest in Australia
Reply #138 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:28pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:11pm:

Quantum wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 1:26pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 11:48am:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 11:46am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 11:32am:

Latest news ABC 24.

One man opened his door to 4 policemen at 4am this morning.

They then proceeded to brutally beat him.

He is now in hospital with severe facial injuries & no charges were laid against him.

His lawyer is investigating.

and the claim comes from.... the terrorist?

He wasn't charged with anything.

As soon as he politely opened the door his face was immediately punched in.

What would have happened is that as soon as the door opened the police would have swarmed the house and arrested everyone. As soon as the door opened they would have had him on the ground before he knew what happened. They are not going to stand there and have a polite conversation while everyone runs out the back door, or the person at the door possibly pulls out a weapon. A few bruises is unavoidable in such an intense moment.

The whole point of a warrant and raid is having solid cause for suspicion and acting upon it swiftly - Arrest everyone and ask questions latter.

It may turn out that he is an innocent member of the public.

He hasn't been charged with anything & his lawyer will
be acting upon the assault.

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Re: Ragheads under arrest in Australia
Reply #139 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:30pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:11pm:

Quantum wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 1:26pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 11:48am:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 11:46am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 11:32am:

Latest news ABC 24.

One man opened his door to 4 policemen at 4am this morning.

They then proceeded to brutally beat him.

He is now in hospital with severe facial injuries & no charges were laid against him.

His lawyer is investigating.

and the claim comes from.... the terrorist?

He wasn't charged with anything.

As soon as he politely opened the door his face was immediately punched in.

What would have happened is that as soon as the door opened the police would have swarmed the house and arrested everyone. As soon as the door opened they would have had him on the ground before he knew what happened. They are not going to stand there and have a polite conversation while everyone runs out the back door, or the person at the door possibly pulls out a weapon. A few bruises is unavoidable in such an intense moment.

The whole point of a warrant and raid is having solid cause for suspicion and acting upon it swiftly - Arrest everyone and ask questions latter.

It may turn out that he is an innocent member of the public.

He hasn't been charged with anything & his lawyer will
be acting upon the assault.

Everyone could be an innocent member of the public. But we still allow warrants, arrests, questioning, and a court case to determine that.

Reasonable suspicion and evidence always trumps the possibility of innocence. Otherwise there would be no law and order as it would be impossible to act.

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 106315 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Ragheads under arrest in Australia Reply #140 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:30pm As per the other thread: We need to bring back the death penalty for: Murderers, Rapists, thieves pedophiles & terrorists
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Reply #141 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:32pm

General True Blue wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 6:45am:

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Homes raided in terror operation

Authorities have raided a string of homes and made several arrests as part of counter-terrorism operation in Sydney.The operation, involving NSW Police and Australian Federal Police, is ongoing.Details of the arrests are yet to be confirmed but police said they followed the execution of a number of search warrants across Sydney's north-west suburbs in dawn raids on Thursday.The suburbs include Beecroft, Bella Vista, Guildford, Merrylands, Northmead, Wentworthville, Marsfield, Westmead, Castle Hill, Revesby, Bass Hill and Regents Park.There are unconfirmed reports the raids, involving hundreds of police, were launched following months of surveillance of people linked to the terrorist group Islamic State, which has been cutting a barbaric path through Iraq and Sryia.It's understood about 600 police officers from NSW Police and the AFP are involved in the operation.The strikes were reportedly pre-emptive in nature, and were linked to a Brisbane man who was recently arrested on suspected terrorism related charges.It's believed a terrorist network had been planning to carry out a series of attacks in Australia, News

if you think that the terror threat isn't real then you need to wake the HELL up..

and fast...

thankyou to Labor for taking Australia to this point..

thank God they didn't get another term in government.. thank God... Angry

Labor took Australia out of Iraq. The ilLiberals under Howard and now the Mad Monk took us into Iraq. So, why is Labor to blame for Muslim terrorists targeting Australia? If anybody is to blame it is Howard and now Abbott! Grin

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Re: Ragheads under arrest in Australia
Reply #142 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:32pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:11pm:

Quantum wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 1:26pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 11:48am:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 11:46am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 11:32am:

Latest news ABC 24.

One man opened his door to 4 policemen at 4am this morning.

They then proceeded to brutally beat him.

He is now in hospital with severe facial injuries & no charges were laid against him.

His lawyer is investigating.

and the claim comes from.... the terrorist?

He wasn't charged with anything.

As soon as he politely opened the door his face was immediately punched in.

What would have happened is that as soon as the door opened the police would have swarmed the house and arrested everyone. As soon as the door opened they would have had him on the ground before he knew what happened. They are not going to stand there and have a polite conversation while everyone runs out the back door, or the person at the door possibly pulls out a weapon. A few bruises is unavoidable in such an intense moment.

The whole point of a warrant and raid is having solid cause for suspicion and acting upon it swiftly - Arrest everyone and ask questions latter.

It may turn out that he is an innocent member of the public.

Er, no.

He's a Muslim, isn't he?

How can a Muslim be "an innocent member of the public"?

Some basic facts for you, Bobby:

1. All terrorists are Muslims
2. All Muslims are terrorists

Here endeth the lesson.

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Re: Ragheads under arrest in Australia
Reply #143 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:32pm

Quantum,
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Everyone could be an innocent member of the public. But we still allow warrants, arrests, questioning, and a court case to determine that.

Reasonable suspicion and evidence always trumps the possibility of innocence. Otherwise there would be no law and order as it would be impossible to act.

Why the hell were the police punching his face in?

It was 4am in the morning in his own house.
He is still in hospital.

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Reply #144 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:34pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:30pm:

As per the other thread:
We need to bring back the death penalty for:

Murderers,
Rapists,
thieves
pedophiles &
terrorists

Considering the failure rate of the death penalty in other countries to actually either deter criminals or even execute the actual guilty ones, it doesn't look like a very effective deterrent or punishment. Grin

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Re: Ragheads under arrest in Australia
Reply #145 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:36pm

|dev|null wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:34pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:30pm:

As per the other thread:
We need to bring back the death penalty for:

Murderers,
Rapists,
thieves
pedophiles &
terrorists

Considering the failure rate of the death penalty in other countries to actually either deter criminals or even execute the actual guilty ones, it doesn't look like a very effective deterrent or punishment. Grin

You need to watch this movie:

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Reply #146 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:39pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:25pm:

Quantum wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:02pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 3:57pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 3:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 2:03pm:

Quantum wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 1:54pm:

An alleged terrorist plot

VS

An alleged government conspiracy to use the courts, intelligence agency, and law enforcement, so as to stage an alleged terrorist plot, so as to create fear in the public and allow the government greater control over the masses. Mind you, Alleged only on an internet forum

Such a hard choice to know what's more likely Roll Eyes

You don't have to make a choice: you just have to understand that they are both alleged.

the true coward hides behind words.

Probably. You've hidden behind many other things, so it's hard to keep track.

Bottom line is, you're scared to death of Muslims and I'm not.

Enjoy living the rest of your "life" looking over your shoulder and jumping at shadows.

and yet,. not one single person has said anything even remotely like it. are we concerned at a plan to abduct people and behead them? yes. the only question would be why you aren't even if it is unlikely to affect you.

you are like aussie. I seriously doubt you care about anyone at all.

Alleged plan.

You're scared witless.

Get a hold of yourself, "man".

Give us your credit card number, account number, and any pins or security codes that go with it. I know you are supposed to keep that all secret, but that is only because there are people out there wanting to take what is not theirs. Well, at least allegedly.

No, not 'allegedly': it actually happens every day.

When was the last Muslim terrorist attack in this country?

Take your time ...

You have no answer so you have to misquote. Here is the part you left out;

"There is no evidence anyone on this forum is like that so there is nothing to worry about."

No wonder you left that part out. We are not talking about society in general, just this forum. I'm waiting for you to present evidence that someone on this forum will take your money, otherwise just put the numbers up.

However, if you don't want to limit it to just this forum, then don't limit Muslim terrorism to just this country. If it happens in other countries including those of the west, then it can happen here as well.

I also like the idiotic logic you have. There hasn't been a terrorist attack in Australia so no need to take precautions. Of course that ignores that the lack of terrorist takes could be a result of the precaution that have been taken. One can hope that if a terrorist attack does happen in Australia that you will be the only victim.

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Re: Ragheads under arrest in Australia
Reply #147 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:39pm

|dev|null wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:34pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:30pm:

As per the other thread:
We need to bring back the death penalty for:

Murderers,
Rapists,
thieves
pedophiles &
terrorists

Considering the failure rate of the death penalty in other countries to actually either deter criminals or even execute the actual guilty ones, it doesn't look like a very effective deterrent or punishment. Grin

It has nothing to do with 'deterrent' or 'punishment': it's all about vengeance, and jerking off to the twitching bodies.

It's the only form of legal entertainment some of these conservatives ever get.

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Reply #148 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:40pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:27pm:

Datalife wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:19pm:

Tis an odd thing, on a political forum, when Australian Muslims are overseas posing with heads, Peccerhead taunts those who think that domestic Islamic terrorism is an issue that needs to be addressed as scaredy cats.

Or maybe odd is the wrong word and moronic is more apt.

There's been a domestic Islamic terrorist attack?

When was that, exactly?

I said it was an issue that needs to be addressed, not that one had happened. For a pedant you don't read good. AFAIK there has only been one islamic terrorist attack on Australian soil but I am happy to discount that as a product of a different time and circumstance and not sharing any context with the modern circumstances. The other planned attacks were foiled and the planners in jail.

Now Peccerhead, to the point after your silly attempt at distraction, with Australian Muslims holding up heads do you think domestic Islamic terrorism is an issue that needs to be addressed or would you prefer it being ignored whilst you stride around calling everyone who disagrees with ignoring it as scaredy cats?

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Reply #149 - Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:44pm

Quantum wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:25pm:

Quantum wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:02pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 4:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 3:57pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 3:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 2:03pm:

Quantum wrote on Sep 18^th, 2014 at 1:54pm:

An alleged terrorist plot

VS

An alleged government conspiracy to use the courts, intelligence agency, and law enforcement, so as to stage an alleged terrorist plot, so as to create fear in the public and allow the government greater control over the masses. Mind you, Alleged only on an internet forum

Such a hard choice to know what's more likely Roll Eyes

You don't have to make a choice: you just have to understand that they are both alleged.

the true coward hides behind words.

Probably. You've hidden behind many other things, so it's hard to keep track.

Bottom line is, you're scared to death of Muslims and I'm not.

Enjoy living the rest of your "life" looking over your shoulder and jumping at shadows.

and yet,. not one single person has said anything even remotely like it. are we concerned at a plan to abduct people and behead them? yes. the only question would be why you aren't even if it is unlikely to affect you.

you are like aussie. I seriously doubt you care about anyone at all.

Alleged plan.

You're scared witless.

Get a hold of yourself, "man".

Give us your credit card number, account number, and any pins or security codes that go with it. I know you are supposed to keep that all secret, but that is only because there are people out there wanting to take what is not theirs. Well, at least allegedly.

No, not 'allegedly': it actually happens every day.

When was the last Muslim terrorist attack in this country?

Take your time ...

We are not talking about society in general, just this forum. I'm waiting for you to present evidence that someone on this forum will take your money, otherwise just put the numbers up.

Don't know much about the internet, do you?

Actually, from the posts of yours that I've bothered to read on this forum, it appears that you don't actually know much about anything (I'm starting to suspect that you're an aquascoot sock).

So, is there something you know a little bit about?

Take your time ...

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