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Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Reply #105 - Nov 24^th, 2014 at 10:02am

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Where have all these ISIS monsters come from?

Err, well, ....one place these ISIS monsters are coming from, is Western Sydney!

[Since the recent 'emergence' of the murderous entity called 'ISIS', in Syria and Iraq,].....
All over the world moslem communities [being hosted within Western nations] have been falling over themselves, insisting that ISIS [and its murderous behaviour] have got nothing to do with mainstream ISLAM.

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Italy: Muslim teenager viciously beaten by her family for being “too Western”

Nov 21, 2014 04:04 pm | Robert Spencer

European authorities are banking their nations’ futures on the supposition that the vast majority of Muslims on the continent are Westernized, or will become Westernized without difficulty.

Yet stories like these suggest that they have been foolhardy to stake so much on this unproven assumption.

“Deemed ‘too Western’ teenager beaten by family,” ANSA, November 21

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We don't understand what is inspiring these ISIS cadres [who have 'appeared' in Syria and Iraq] ?

And we don't know where these ISIS cadres are 'coming from' ?

What absurd propositions !!

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ISIS is largely made up of moslem emigres who have come from [moslem communities resident in] Western nations.

ISIS is a creature of the West's own making.

Give the gift of freedoms to moslems, and what you get is ISIS!

Empower moslems, and what you get is ISIS!

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Reply #106 - Nov 24^th, 2014 at 10:10am

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Where have all these ISIS monsters come from?

Err, well, ....one place these ISIS monsters are coming from, is Western Sydney!

[Since the recent 'emergence' of the murderous entity called 'ISIS', in Syria and Iraq,].....
All over the world moslem communities [being hosted within Western nations] have been falling over themselves, insisting that ISIS [and its murderous behaviour] have got nothing to do with mainstream ISLAM.

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Israel: Muslims throw acid on car of imam who condemned synagogue jihad murders

Nov 21, 2014 08:52 am | Robert Spencer

Here is yet another illustration of why we don’t see more sincere Muslim reformers.

Those who buck the accepted line are all too often targeted for violence or, at very least, ostracized and vilified.

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We don't understand what is inspiring these ISIS cadres [who have 'appeared' in Syria and Iraq] ?

And we don't know where these ISIS cadres are 'coming from' ?

What absurd propositions !!

i Quote:

ISIS is largely made up of moslem emigres who have come from [moslem communities resident in] Western nations.

ISIS is a creature of the West's own making.

Give the gift of freedoms to moslems, and what you get is ISIS!

Empower moslems, and what you get is ISIS!

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95425 Gender:	Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ? Reply #107 - Nov 24^th, 2014 at 12:21pm Actually, ISIL is the creature of Saddam's old Republican Guard. When the US sacked all the Ba'athists in the Iraqi army and government, guess where they all went. Who to blame? Uncle or Islam? Islam or Uncle? Sometimes a question is just a question.
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Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Reply #109 - Nov 24^th, 2014 at 2:26pm

ISIS ran through north-western Iraq so easily because the sunni tribal leaders adopted a "the enemy of my enemy..." approach. For them the real enemy is the authoritarian and exclusionary shiite regime in Baghdad.

As usual, religion is merely a symptom of the problem, not a cause. As soon as Baghdad starts negotiating more democratic participation for the sunnis, the islamists will be out on their ear - just like their predecessor, Al Qaeda in Iraq was turfed out by the sunnis as soon as the Americans (and their client in Baghdad) started addressing their legitimate greivances.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95425 Gender:	Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ? Reply #110 - Nov 24^th, 2014 at 3:41pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 24^th, 2014 at 1:12pm: From islam Good point, Sprint.
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Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Reply #111 - Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:13am

Q.
Where have all these ISIS monsters come from?

Err, well, ....one place these ISIS monsters are coming from, is Western Sydney!

[Since the recent 'emergence' of the murderous entity called 'ISIS', in Syria and Iraq,].....
All over the world moslem communities [being hosted within Western nations] have been falling over themselves, insisting that ISIS [and its murderous behaviour] have got nothing to do with mainstream ISLAM.

Quote:

Canada jihad murderer: “There can’t be world peace until there’s only Muslims”

Nov 22, 2014 09:07 pm | Robert Spencer

“He was always trying to convert me, (saying) ‘You should read the Qur’an, bro,’ ” Banek said.”

Yet according to mainstream analysts, Zehaf-Bibeau completely misunderstood the message of the Qur’an, and somehow got the crazy idea that it had something to do with warfare against unbelievers.

The cognitive dissonance grows by the second.

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ISIS is largely made up of moslem emigres who have come from [moslem communities resident in] Western nations.

ISIS is a creature of the West's own making.

Give the gift of freedoms to moslems, and what you get is ISIS!

Empower moslems, and what you get is ISIS!

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Reply #112 - Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:18am

Q.
Where have all these ISIS monsters come from?

Err, well, ....Western Sydney is one place these ISIS monsters are coming from !

Since the recent 'emergence' of the murderous entity called 'ISIS', in Syria and Iraq,.....
All over the world moslem communities [being hosted within Western nations] have been falling over themselves, insisting that ISIS [and its murderous behaviour] have got nothing to do with mainstream ISLAM.

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Director of US-funded UN school calls synagogue jihad murders “wonderful”

Nov 22, 2014 04:28 pm | Robert Spencer

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But the opinion of this person, has got nothing to do with ISLAM. Tongue

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ISIS is largely made up of moslem emigres who have come from [moslem communities resident in] Western nations.

ISIS is a creature of the West's own making.

Give the gift of freedoms to moslems, and what you get is ISIS!

Empower moslems, and what you get is ISIS!

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Reply #113 - Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:22am

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Where have all these ISIS monsters come from?

Err, well, ....Western Sydney is one place these ISIS monsters are coming from !

Since the recent 'emergence' of the murderous entity called 'ISIS', in Syria and Iraq,.....
All over the world moslem communities [being hosted within Western nations] have been falling over themselves, insisting that ISIS [and its murderous behaviour] have got nothing to do with mainstream ISLAM.

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Jordanian MPs hold moment of silence for synagogue jihad murderers
Nov 22, 2014 04:05 pm | Robert Spencer

Modern, moderate Jordan: still a hotbed of those who cheer when the people the Qur’an describes [Jews] as the worst enemies of the Muslims (cf. 5:82) are murdered.

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But the opinion of Jordanian MPs, has got nothing to do with ISLAM. Tongue

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ISIS is largely made up of moslem emigres who have come from [moslem communities resident in] Western nations.

ISIS is a creature of the West's own making.

Give the gift of freedoms to moslems, and what you get is ISIS!

Empower moslems, and what you get is ISIS!

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Reply #115 - Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:25am

Q.
Where have all these ISIS monsters come from?

Err, well, ....Western Sydney is one place these ISIS monsters are coming from !

Since the recent 'emergence' of the murderous entity called 'ISIS', in Syria and Iraq,.....
All over the world moslem communities [being hosted within Western nations] have been falling over themselves, insisting that ISIS [and its murderous behaviour] have got nothing to do with mainstream ISLAM.

Quote:

Pakistani Muslim leader: Only “culture of jihad” can solve society’s problems
Nov 22, 2014 03:50 pm | Robert Spencer

Munawwar Hassan wants jihad, not democracy.

Where did he get the crazy idea that democracy and Islam were incompatible?

Has he been listening to the rantings of greasy Islamophobes?

“Jihad should replace democracy to overcome challenges: Munawar Hasan,” The News International, November 22, 2014

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ISIS is largely made up of moslem emigres who have come from [moslem communities resident in] Western nations.

ISIS is a creature of the West's own making.

Give the gift of freedoms to moslems, and what you get is ISIS!

Empower moslems, and what you get is ISIS!

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Reply #116 - Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:27am

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Where have all these ISIS monsters come from?

Err, well, ....Western Sydney is one place these ISIS monsters are coming from !

Since the recent 'emergence' of the murderous entity called 'ISIS', in Syria and Iraq,.....
All over the world moslem communities [being hosted within Western nations] have been falling over themselves, insisting that ISIS [and its murderous behaviour] have got nothing to do with mainstream ISLAM.

Quote:

Australia: Islamic State claims responsibility for Muslim’s knife attack on cops
Nov 22, 2014 03:37 pm | Robert Spencer

The claim to have reconstituted the caliphate clearly resonates with many Muslims worldwide; it is the principal reason why we see so many Muslims from Western countries going to Syria and Iraq to join the Islamic State.

Thus there is nothing implausible about this claim of responsibility.

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ISIS is largely made up of moslem emigres who have come from [moslem communities resident in] Western nations.

ISIS is a creature of the West's own making.

Give the gift of freedoms to moslems, and what you get is ISIS!

Empower moslems, and what you get is ISIS!

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Reply #117 - Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:31am

Q.
Where have all these ISIS monsters come from?

Err, well, ....Western Sydney is one place these ISIS monsters are coming from !

Since the recent 'emergence' of the murderous entity called 'ISIS', in Syria and Iraq,.....
All over the world moslem communities [being hosted within Western nations] have been falling over themselves, insisting that ISIS [and its murderous behaviour] have got nothing to do with mainstream ISLAM.

Quote:

Kenya: Muslims murder 28 non-Muslims who couldn’t recite Qur’an verses
Nov 22, 2014 09:42 am | Robert Spencer

Meanwhile, Barack Obama and John Kerry and David Cameron and the rest assure us that this kind of thing has nothing to do with Islam.

We are ruled by fantasists and liars.

“‘One by One They Were Shot in the Head’:

Islamist Hijackers Use a Simple Test to Find — and Kill — Non-Muslims,”

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Why, did these Somali moslems want to identify the non-moslems on the bus again ?????? Tongue

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ISIS is largely made up of moslem emigres who have come from [moslem communities resident in] Western nations.

ISIS is a creature of the West's own making.

Give the gift of freedoms to moslems, and what you get is ISIS!

Empower moslems, and what you get is ISIS!

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Reply #118 - Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:33am

Q.
Where have all these ISIS monsters come from?

Err, well, ....Western Sydney is one place these ISIS monsters are coming from !

Since the recent 'emergence' of the murderous entity called 'ISIS', in Syria and Iraq,.....
All over the world moslem communities [being hosted within Western nations] have been falling over themselves, insisting that ISIS [and its murderous behaviour] have got nothing to do with mainstream ISLAM.

Quote:

Ex-FSA fighter: Islamic State “magnet that attracts large numbers of Muslims”
Nov 23, 2014 07:43 pm | Robert Spencer

“We have a Free Syrian Army and a moderate opposition that we have steadily been working with that we have vetted.” — Barack Obama, September 2014

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ISIS is largely made up of moslem emigres who have come from [moslem communities resident in] Western nations.

ISIS is a creature of the West's own making.

Give the gift of freedoms to moslems, and what you get is ISIS!

Empower moslems, and what you get is ISIS!

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Reply #119 - Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:36am

Q.
Where have all these ISIS monsters come from?

Err, well, ....Western Sydney is one place these ISIS monsters are coming from !

Since the recent 'emergence' of the murderous entity called 'ISIS', in Syria and Iraq,.....
All over the world moslem communities [being hosted within Western nations] have been falling over themselves, insisting that ISIS [and its murderous behaviour] have got nothing to do with mainstream ISLAM.

Quote:

Muslim MP: 2,000 Muslims from UK fighting for Islamic State
Nov 23, 2014 07:19 pm | Robert Spencer

The concept of the caliphate is what gives the Islamic State its appeal among young Muslims in the West,

.....but Western authorities cannot acknowledge that, for it would suggest that the Islamic State has something to do with Islam.

And so they lurch about in the darkness looking for alternate explanations.

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ISIS is largely made up of moslem emigres who have come from [moslem communities resident in] Western nations.

ISIS is a creature of the West's own making.

Give the gift of freedoms to moslems, and what you get is ISIS!

Empower moslems, and what you get is ISIS!

ISIS is the 'creature', of an empowered and 'enabled' mainstream moslem community.
.....those mainstream moslem communities, that are resident in Western nations!

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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