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Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Reply #136 - Nov 26^th, 2014 at 12:17pm

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Islamic State to Christians: Convert to Islam, pay jizya or be killed
Nov 23, 2014 06:27 am | Robert Spencer

“Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” (9:29)

ITEM ABOVE;
The vast majority of these ISIS monsters, were lately, the citizens of nations like Australia.

AND CONSIDER;
Many of these ISIS monsters were refugees, or the children of refugees. [i.e. they were persons [or were, the children of persons] who sought out a sanctuary, FOR THEMSELVES, in nations like Australia!]

And now, these persons have chosen to leave the [lawful] influences over them, that are present, in a nation like Australia.

They have chosen to once again, to return, to being moslems, living in a moslem majority land.

Q.
And their 'choice' [once they have returned to that 'environment'] is what ?

A.
Now, having returned to a moslem majority land, their choice is to seek [in every way!] to persecute those who are [politically 'different', and] weaker than themselves.

These moslems monsters [who have returned to moslem majority land], have reverted to 'type'.

They have reverted to, 'practising moslem'.

They have reverted to, being robbers, rapists, murderers, oppressors - of those who are [politically 'different', and] weaker than themselves.

AND CONSIDER;
The vast majority of these ISIS monsters, are moslems who were lately, living in the suburbs of cities like Sydney and Melbourne [and cities in many other Western nations].

THE LESSON #1;
Even within a political [non-ISLAMIC] 'environment' like Australia;
1/ you can't take ISLAM out of the moslem,
AND,
2/ you can't take the moslem out of ISLAM.

Moslem = = ISLAM

ISLAM = = moslem.

Moslem = = a monstrous human being.

THE LESSON #2;
The laws of a nation like Australia are able to [somewhat] 'constrain' the intent of 'the moslem'.

But the laws and the 'environment' of a nation like Australia will never change [i.e. reform] who 'the moslem' is.

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Even within a nation like Australia 'the moslem', can be seen [in 'an unguarded moment'] to be 'exciting' [in moslem children] a murderous hatred of Australians, and of [all] persons who do not believe, as moslems believe.

as per being shown, here.....

Muslims brainwash children in Australia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krk5piUzp1E

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Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

ISLAM......

ISLAMIC LAW
"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06

THE KORAN
"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

THE 'PROPHET' OF ISLAM

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."

- DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

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ISLAM is a 'factory' which produces human monsters [...who are taught that they must obey the criminal dictates of ISLAM].

Moslem = = a monster.

A moslem is a person whose psyche has become 'enthralled' by the criminal 'ideals' which are encapsulated within ISLAM.

Moslem = = a follower of ISLAM.

THE RELIGION OF PEACE

http://thereligionofpeace.com/

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Reply #137 - Nov 26^th, 2014 at 12:21pm

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Islamic State training children to be jihad killers
Nov 24, 2014 09:30 pm | Robert Spencer

“We’re going to kill you, O kuffar. Insha’allah we’ll slaughter you.”

Kuffar = Infidels.

Insha’allah = Allah willing.

Not that this has anything to do with Islam.

“Children of the Jihad: ISIS Behead Kurdish Children; Train Kazakh Children to Fight,” by Donna Rachel Edmunds, Breitbart, November 24, 2014

Monstrous human beings.

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

IMAGE.....
TEACHING 'THE CHILDREN OF THE CALIPHATE', HOW TO BE GOOD MOSLEMS....

IMAGE.....
TEACHING 'THE CHILDREN OF THE CALIPHATE', HOW TO BE GOOD MOSLEMS....
WARNING, DO NOT LOOK!

http://www.barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/201408260406105.jpeg

IMAGE.....
WARNING, DO NOT LOOK!
http://images.catholic.org/media/2014/07/25/14063030871961_700.jpg
https://creepingsharia.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/bttzqduiiaa-kmz1.jpg
http://images.catholic.org/media/2014/08/08/14075172271961_700.jpg

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Reply #138 - Nov 26^th, 2014 at 12:27pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:56am:

MumboJumbo wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 11:50am:

Yadda, could you explain that a bit more? If you keep repeating it, you will eventually bludgeon gandy into submission. He will see the error of his infidel ways.

I know. Gandy’s already thanking Y for his contributions. It won’t be long until Gandy renounces Islam and joins the struggle.

All you have to do is blame Islam, G. It’s that easy.

Ah, don't blame islam, Y. That's racist. It's them varmint musselmen that take it seriously. They're the pests, and be needin' an exterminator.

Karnal wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 12:05pm:

What intelligence are you basing your claim.on?

His own, Karnal. Forgiven.

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Why the bugger did I get stuck on a planet chalked full of imbeciles?

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Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Reply #139 - Nov 26^th, 2014 at 12:27pm

Yadda wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 12:17pm:

ISLAM is a 'factory' which produces human monsters [...who are taught that they must obey the criminal dictates of ISLAM].

Moslem = = a monster.

A moslem is a person whose psyche has become 'enthralled' by the criminal 'ideals' which are encapsulated within ISLAM.

Moslem = = a follower of ISLAM.

THE RELIGION OF PEACE

http://thereligionofpeace.com/

All moslems are, moslems.

Dictionary;
Muslim = = a follower of Islam.

Every moslem is a follower of ISLAM, who is enthralled by the reputed deeds of Mohammed, and who has respect for the laws and tenets of his MOSLEM nation.

If he did NOT, then that person would NOT be a moslem.

THE 'UNBELIEVABLE' 'SLANDER' AND THE 'MISREPRESENTATION' OF ISLAM [and of 'the moslem']

- WHICH 'EMANATES' FROM THE INERRANT KORAN.....

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"Fighting [against unbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

THE 'UNBELIEVABLE' 'SLANDER' AND THE 'MISREPRESENTATION' OF ISLAM [and of 'the moslem']

- WHICH 'EMANATES' FROM THE LIPS OF ISLAMIC LEADERS....

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Use children as troops, says cleric
January 18, 2007
SYDNEY'S most influential radical Muslim cleric has been caught on film calling Jews pigs and urging children to die for Allah.
Firebrand Sheik Feiz Mohammed, head of the Global Islamic Youth Centre in Liverpool [Australia], delivered the hateful rants on a collection of DVDs called the Death Series being sold in Australia and overseas.
.........Sheik Feiz says in the video.
"We want to have children and offer them as soldiers defending Islam. Teach them this: There is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid (holy warrior). Put in their soft, tender hearts the zeal of jihad and a love of martyrdom."
An Australian citizen born in Sydney who has spent the past year living in Lebanon, Sheik Feiz was exposed this week in a British documentary Undercover Mosque.
......"The peak, the pinnacle, the crest, the highest point, the pivot, the summit of Islam is jihad," he declares in the film, before denouncing "kaffirs" (non-Muslims).

"Kaffir is the worst word ever written, a sign of infidelity, disbelief, filth, a sign of dirt."

......Sheik Feiz - who just two weeks ago said he felt like an "alien" in his own country - leads about 4000 followers through his Global Islamic Youth Centre in Sydney's southwest.
He also accused Australian authorities of being over-zealous in their approach to clerics like him.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21074839-2,00.html
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014863.php

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Reply #140 - Nov 26^th, 2014 at 12:36pm

http://www.loonwatch.com/2014/08/is-isis-beheading-children-in-iraq/

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Fueling the speculation has been websites, like Catholic Online, that purport to have pictures of children beheaded by ISIS. (The images on the site are extremely graphic and disturbing. I’d advise not looking at them.) Catholic Online, which is not officially connected to the Catholic Church, has only one picture that could be of a beheaded child. But there is no way to know whether it is real or whether it occurred in Iraq. There is no source or context for the photos and the story is credited to “News Consortium.”

One of the pictures that Catholic Online includes — and that has become ubiquitous on social media — shows a baby with three rifles pointed at his head (see image above). While the image is outrageous, it was not a photo taken of ISIS in northern Iraq.

The photo originally appeared online April 11, 2014 on the Facebook page of a person from Yemen. Numerous people on that page attest that the clothes the child is wearing are obviously Yemeni. A few days later, though, the image started popping up on pro-Syrian Army websites claiming that it was an Armenian child who was taken by Syrian rebels. Whatever the original context for the photo, we know based on the date alone that it was not recently taken in Mosul or northern Iraq.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Reply #141 - Nov 26^th, 2014 at 12:51pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 12:36pm:

http://www.loonwatch.com/2014/08/is-isis-beheading-children-in-iraq/

re Yadda's last image (warning: graphic)

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Fueling the speculation has been websites, like Catholic Online, that purport to have pictures of children beheaded by ISIS. (The images on the site are extremely graphic and disturbing. I’d advise not looking at them.) Catholic Online, which is not officially connected to the Catholic Church, has only one picture that could be of a beheaded child. But there is no way to know whether it is real or whether it occurred in Iraq. There is no source or context for the photos and the story is credited to “News Consortium.”

One of the pictures that Catholic Online includes — and that has become ubiquitous on social media — shows a baby with three rifles pointed at his head (see image above). While the image is outrageous, it was not a photo taken of ISIS in northern Iraq.

The photo originally appeared online April 11, 2014 on the Facebook page of a person from Yemen. Numerous people on that page attest that the clothes the child is wearing are obviously Yemeni. A few days later, though, the image started popping up on pro-Syrian Army websites claiming that it was an Armenian child who was taken by Syrian rebels. Whatever the original context for the photo, we know based on the date alone that it was not recently taken in Mosul or northern Iraq.

Yeah,

The Australian, ABC, 4 []'s should despatch an investigative reporting team to Racca, Syria, so that we can have a verified account of what those ISIS cadres are really doing.

I'd like to see a person like Zoe Daniels despatched on this assignment. Tongue

In recent years Zoe Daniels has always been shown to have had a soft spot, for the moslems [who are always being portrayed, as being persecuted], in her reports.

I'm sure Zoe will get along, just fine, with ISIS.

They wouldn't hurt a hair on her head! .....oh no!

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ? Reply #142 - Nov 26^th, 2014 at 1:22pm Yadda - serious question if I may: If you saw an image being used to prosecute the case against islam and muslims that you either knew or had good reason to believe was fake, would you object to the use of such an image in this way? Yes or no, if you could please.
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Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Reply #143 - Nov 26^th, 2014 at 1:36pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 1:22pm:

Yadda - serious question if I may:

If you saw an image being used to prosecute the case against islam and muslims that you either knew or had good reason to believe was fake, would you object to the use of such an image in this way?

Yes or no, if you could please.

gandalf,

If i knew that an image was fake, yes, i would object to its use, to criticise ISLAM and/or moslems.

I would see the use of such a fake image, as being 1/ wrong to do, and 2/ [eventually?] counter-productive.

Never old.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ? Reply #144 - Nov 26^th, 2014 at 3:12pm Thank you Y. I appreciate the candid response.
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Reply #145 - Nov 26^th, 2014 at 3:29pm

So, Yadda if you knew an image which portrayed Muslims in an unfavourable light had questionable veracity would you still use that image and claim it was real?

If an image which was questionable or shown to be false had been used by you (innocently) in one of your posts, would you apologise for it's use?

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Reply #146 - Nov 26^th, 2014 at 4:30pm

Yadda wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 1:36pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 1:22pm:

Yadda - serious question if I may:

If you saw an image being used to prosecute the case against islam and muslims that you either knew or had good reason to believe was fake, would you object to the use of such an image in this way?

Yes or no, if you could please.

gandalf,

If i knew that an image was fake, yes, i would object to its use, to criticise ISLAM and/or moslems.

I would see the use of such a fake image, as being 1/ wrong to do, and 2/ [eventually?] counter-productive.

Never old.

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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gvXwPghPsU4/TiV9dY_RIKI/AAAAAAAAC-k/yA0crbVWgvA/s320/1...

A very real image, Y.

Those are the real 10 Commandments, no?

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Reply #147 - Nov 26^th, 2014 at 6:43pm

QUESTION;
Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?

ANSWER;
These ISIS 'monsters', day by day, year by year, have been a creation of the philosophy known as ISLAM.

e.g.

MEET A MOSLEM MONSTER....

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Aqsa Mahmood - the pretty moslem medical student, from the UK.

That young moslem woman chose to abandon her medical studies in the UK.

And chose to travel to Syria/Iraq, so that she could supervise the rape [by moslems men] of kidnapped Yazidi women.

'British' woman, Aqsa Mahmood - running ISIS brothels, allowing killers to rape kidnapped Yazidi women.

'British' woman, Aqsa Mahmood,

"said she wanted to behead Christians with a “blunt knife”."

Quote:

Mirror Online-British female jihadis running ISIS brothels allowing killers to rape kidnapped Yazidi women

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/british-female-jihadis-running-isis-4198165

AND ANOTHER MOSLEM 'FEMME FATALE' [MONSTER]....

Salwa Al-Mutairi - has called for the legalizing sex slavery in Kuwait.
So as to protect moslem men, from sexual corruption [....this would be 'achieved', by allowing Kuwaiti moslem men to have non-moslem sex slaves]!

Quote:

Kuwait: "Female political activist" calls for legalizing sex slavery to protect men from "adultery or corruption"
.....We want our youth to be protected from adultery,” said Al-Mutairi, suggesting that these maids could be brought as prisoners of war in war-stricken nations like Chechnya to be sold on later to devout merchants.

This is not religiously forbidden,” she added

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/06/kuwait-female-political-activist-calls-for-leg...

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"I hope that Kuwait will enact the law for...sex slaves"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/06/i-hope-that-kuwait-will-enact-the-law-forsex-s...

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Egyptian imam: "When I want a sex slave, I just go to the market and choose the woman I like and purchase her"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/06/egyptian-imam-when-i-want-a-sex-slave-i-just-g...

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Imam: having sex-slaves "may no longer be fashionable," but it's still legal in Islam

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/08/imam-having-sex-slaves-may-no-longer-be-fashio...

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UK: Imam misunderstands Islam, says it allows a Muslim man to have as many concubines as he wants

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/05/uk-imam-misunderstands-islam-says-it-allows-a-...

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These people [those who hold such views] are living among us, here in Australia, today.

They call themselves, moslems.

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Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ?
Reply #148 - Nov 26^th, 2014 at 8:53pm

|dev|null wrote on Nov 26^th, 2014 at 3:29pm:

So, Yadda if you knew an image which portrayed Muslims in an unfavourable light had questionable veracity would you still use that image and claim it was real?

If an image which was questionable or shown to be false had been used by you (innocently) in one of your posts, would you apologise for it's use?

Grin

Or blatantly false rape statistics used as a shocking thread title...

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95421 Gender:	Re: Where have these ISIS 'monsters' come from ? Reply #149 - Nov 26^th, 2014 at 8:56pm No no, if Y knew they were fake, 1. It would be wrong to do, and 2. Counter-productive. Google: taqiyya +++
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