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Re: Come on Australia...
Reply #45 - Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 8:13am

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Sep 21^st, 2014 at 9:12am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 6:35am:

You are abnormally afraid true blue....sux to be you !!!!

How can you enjoy life when you're looking behind your back for the bogie man every minute of the day?

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131112021119/animaljam/images/6/6c/My_Scare...

Fear is normal: it's healthy infact!

Do you have locks on your door?

Cheesy

horse, a sensible post from you at last.
I try to understand fear and have tried to conquer it all my life. its not easy getting on a horse when your guts are churning because you have just been thrown.
but conquer it we must.

fear is mainly fear of the unknown.
hence why I am off to the mosque to talk to some muslims and overcome this fear.

I find 2 truths on here.

one, rightards (and I include myself as someone who champions the small business person and the suburban battler) are easily made fearful and this is not a good thing.

two, leftards simply do not help the situation.
greg constantly calling people snivelling cowards does not make people confront their fears. it simply makes them angry and this is not a good thing.

so we have a terrible feedback loop going on with righties getting fearful and angry and the taunts from the left simply adding fuel to the fire. then the righties add more fuel and I can see that this can/will have disastrous consequences.

I have always been focused on trying to fix problems and I like new adventures.

I love Buddhism and I find Christianity very worthwhile. my fears led me to places I didn't want to go and now I look forward to the discovering for myself the true state of the muslim sentiment.

I used to drop in at the uniting church sometimes in my valley and found the people, just lovely. its why when lefties call Christians pedophiles and ass clowns I get upset.
I can see now that to not give the muslims the same courtesy is hypocritical and will not lead to a way forward.

god is great

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Re: Come on Australia...
Reply #46 - Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 8:27am

aquascoot wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 8:13am:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Sep 21^st, 2014 at 9:12am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 6:35am:

You are abnormally afraid true blue....sux to be you !!!!

How can you enjoy life when you're looking behind your back for the bogie man every minute of the day?

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131112021119/animaljam/images/6/6c/My_Scare...

Fear is normal: it's healthy infact!

Do you have locks on your door?

Cheesy

horse, a sensible post from you at last.
I try to understand fear and have tried to conquer it all my life. its not easy getting on a horse when your guts are churning because you have just been thrown.
but conquer it we must.

fear is mainly fear of the unknown.
hence why I am off to the mosque to talk to some muslims and overcome this fear.

I find 2 truths on here.

one, rightards (and I include myself as someone who champions the small business person and the suburban battler) are easily made fearful and this is not a good thing.

two, leftards simply do not help the situation.
greg constantly calling people snivelling cowards does not make people confront their fears. it simply makes them angry and this is not a good thing.

so we have a terrible feedback loop going on with righties getting fearful and angry and the taunts from the left simply adding fuel to the fire. then the righties add more fuel and I can see that this can/will have disastrous consequences.

I have always been focused on trying to fix problems and I like new adventures.

I love Buddhism and I find Christianity very worthwhile. my fears led me to places I didn't want to go and now I look forward to the discovering for myself the true state of the muslim sentiment.

I used to drop in at the uniting church sometimes in my valley and found the people, just lovely. its why when lefties call Christians pedophiles and ass clowns I get upset.
I can see now that to not give the muslims the same courtesy is hypocritical and will not lead to a way forward.

god is great

It would be useful to me and I believe useful to most if after your meeting you were to update us on your findings back here. Just a thought

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Re: Come on Australia...
Reply #47 - Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 9:16am

aquascoot wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 8:13am:

I used to drop in at the uniting church sometimes in my valley and found the people, just lovely. its why when lefties call Christians pedophiles and ass clowns I get upset.

My aunt is a very religious Christian. She attends church and my two cousins are members of the youth group etc. My uncle is an atheist, so he doesn't participate but the rest of them are right into it. I can honestly say that my aunt is the sweetest, most giving person I know and her kids are the same. I think they'd be that way without religion, but I like to think of them as perfect examples of the true spirit of Christianity.

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Reply #49 - Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 10:07am

cods wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 9:22am:

did you hear where that have cancelled pray meeting s in Goulburn Jail..for muslims after a riot in there...

thats our TOP punishment... Roll Eyes

Please learn to actually think about things. That's the nicest way I can put it without calling you stupid or something else that would be insulting and later regretted.

If prison inmates riot, they're punished with loss of privileges at the least. It's also a mark on their record when it comes to parole assessment which will lead to an increase in the time of a sentence that is actually served.

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Reply #50 - Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 10:23am

John Smith wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 2:03pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 9:50am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 9:34am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 7:39am:

You have my utmost respect, Aqua.

I am not a Muslim, but my son has a Muslim name. He has no real Islamic influence and is very much your typical Aussie kid. I am telling you this because you spoke of fear for your daughters - I'm afraid for my son. We recently moved house and I am living with a constant dull dread of that look of surprised distaste that is becoming more common as we meet our neighbours and names are exchanged. It used to be rare, but it's pretty much the norm lately. I have seriously considered changing his name because he is starting to suffer some mild anxiety. Imagine the fear of a little girl with the scarf?

These are crappy times, but when people like you stop and reconsider and look for the humanity behind the distorted pictures we're shown, only good will come of it.

Changing the name to an Australian name is the least you could do. My German grandfather and all his brothers and sisters anglesised their names when WW! whipped up a fever of hatred against the Hun.

JUST DO IT!

Don't delay, procrastinate, linger in limbo, or loiter at Opportunity's Door to make this long-overdue change.

NOW! sister.

Don't let him continue to drag this dead cat around with him. Life has enough 'challenges' without you making it any more difficult through your own volition.

Swap his Mohammadan name for a nice, harmless, politically-neutral name like ... er ... 'Herbert'.

Cool

No.

I'm not going to validate ignorance and he doesn't want to either. His name has a beautiful meaning that suits him. I'll continue to teach him to be proud of who he is.

can you anglecise his name? My real name is very Italian, but I only use it on legal documents or with people who know me closely, instead I use a translated version (John Smith) ... not for any other reason than its just impler to use John .... I got sick of having to correct everyone pronunciation all the time ...

Ey Giovannni wasa matta for you?

I lived in an area with many Italians ... no problem with most names .... Giovanni would get shortened to Gio ... Giuseppe to Gus etc. Nothing wrong with Mario, Alfio & similar shorter names .

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Reply #51 - Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 3:22pm

Gnads wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 10:23am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 2:03pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 9:50am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 9:34am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 7:39am:

You have my utmost respect, Aqua.

I am not a Muslim, but my son has a Muslim name. He has no real Islamic influence and is very much your typical Aussie kid. I am telling you this because you spoke of fear for your daughters - I'm afraid for my son. We recently moved house and I am living with a constant dull dread of that look of surprised distaste that is becoming more common as we meet our neighbours and names are exchanged. It used to be rare, but it's pretty much the norm lately. I have seriously considered changing his name because he is starting to suffer some mild anxiety. Imagine the fear of a little girl with the scarf?

These are crappy times, but when people like you stop and reconsider and look for the humanity behind the distorted pictures we're shown, only good will come of it.

Changing the name to an Australian name is the least you could do. My German grandfather and all his brothers and sisters anglesised their names when WW! whipped up a fever of hatred against the Hun.

JUST DO IT!

Don't delay, procrastinate, linger in limbo, or loiter at Opportunity's Door to make this long-overdue change.

NOW! sister.

Don't let him continue to drag this dead cat around with him. Life has enough 'challenges' without you making it any more difficult through your own volition.

Swap his Mohammadan name for a nice, harmless, politically-neutral name like ... er ... 'Herbert'.

Cool

No.

I'm not going to validate ignorance and he doesn't want to either. His name has a beautiful meaning that suits him. I'll continue to teach him to be proud of who he is.

can you anglecise his name? My real name is very Italian, but I only use it on legal documents or with people who know me closely, instead I use a translated version (John Smith) ... not for any other reason than its just impler to use John .... I got sick of having to correct everyone pronunciation all the time ...

Ey Giovannni wasa matta for you?

I lived in an area with many Italians ... no problem with most names .... Giovanni would get shortened to Gio ... Giuseppe to Gus etc. Nothing wrong with Mario, Alfio & similar shorter names .

no problem with the name, it was the idiots who couldn't pronounce it .... I can't tell you the number of times I spent waiting for my name to be called out in a govt. office, only to realise after about the 3rd or 4th attempt that they were calling my name .. Giovanni would become Geo vaney or some other such rubbish ..

by the way, Giuseppe isn't Gus, its Joe, Gustavo is Gus ... I bet Giuseppe reminisces about the idiots who used to call him Gus Grin

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Reply #52 - Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 4:47pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 3:22pm:

no problem with the name, it was the idiots who couldn't pronounce it .... I can't tell you the number of times I spent waiting for my name to be called out in a govt. office, only to realise after about the 3rd or 4th attempt that they were calling my name .. Giovanni would become Geo vaney or some other such rubbish ..

Mamma Mia!!!! Cheesy

(hope you don't mind the exclamation)

I never thought a name like Giovanni would be that difficult to pronounce, but now that you mentioned it, I suppose there's a chance that I might get it wrong.

So is it something like . . . Jee-O-var-ny? Cool

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Reply #53 - Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 5:21pm

Mnemonic wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 4:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 3:22pm:

no problem with the name, it was the idiots who couldn't pronounce it .... I can't tell you the number of times I spent waiting for my name to be called out in a govt. office, only to realise after about the 3rd or 4th attempt that they were calling my name .. Giovanni would become Geo vaney or some other such rubbish ..

Mamma Mia!!!! Cheesy

(hope you don't mind the exclamation)

I never thought a name like Giovanni would be that difficult to pronounce, but now that you mentioned it, I suppose there's a chance that I might get it wrong.

So is it something like . . . Jee-O-var-ny? Cool

Hi, I don't think it's 4 syllables, I always used 3.... Jo-var-nee, howz that sound? Cool

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Reply #54 - Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 5:23pm

Mnemonic wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 4:47pm:

Mamma Mia!!!! Cheesy

(hope you don't mind the exclamation)

not at all

I never thought a name like Giovanni would be that difficult to pronounce, but now that you mentioned it, I suppose there's a chance that I might get it wrong.

So is it something like . . . Jee-O-var-ny? Cool

joe - VAHN - knee ... short and sharp

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Reply #55 - Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 5:27pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 5:23pm:

Mnemonic wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 4:47pm:

Mamma Mia!!!! Cheesy

(hope you don't mind the exclamation)

not at all

I never thought a name like Giovanni would be that difficult to pronounce, but now that you mentioned it, I suppose there's a chance that I might get it wrong.

So is it something like . . . Jee-O-var-ny? Cool

joe - VAHN - knee ... short and sharp

Yep, 3 syllables like I said in my post below

My mum calls my husband (although his real name is John), she still puts her Italian slant on it and calls him Joe-vahn).

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Reply #56 - Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 8:52pm

Religiousness is the true definition of fear. Even so-called educated folks can't accepf the fair possibility that we live in a godless universe. If that's the case our deaths will bring about eons of drifting in a black, soulless emptiness. That primordial terror has spawned religion, politics and a whole boatload of sensitive bull s.h.i.t. (much of it posted on ozpolitics by gutless types trying to apoease their consciences).

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Reply #58 - Sep 24^th, 2014 at 7:03am

OK, so I dropped in and saw the mosque that is closest to me.
there were 2 guys there and they were initially a little guarded. I think they have got a lot of coverage.
I said I just wanted to see for myself as I saw this mosque featured on the news and the guy said to please drop in and see for yourself, so I was seeing for myself.

firstly, the 2 guys I met there were very well mannered but perhaps a little humourless.
they felt quite scared I think and they told me that several families in the area (this is the mosque closest to the bookshop where the guys were arrested ) had decided to sell up and move.
that made me feel very bad, right off the bat.
they said that it is very hard for muslims to get the message out as they don't really have a spokesman , as such. they did seem disorganised.

I would say they seemed a bit flustered.
they asked me about my religion and I said Buddhist Christian spiritualist and they were very quick to condem the killings of Christians in mosul.

one of these guys had lost his wife and was raising 3 small boys. he seemed a really decent fellow. I showed him a pic of my one arab horse on my phone and we chatted about horses for a while and he said his father raised horses in south Africa. I didn't know he was from south Africa. must be a different part of the middle east .

I was going to ask him about fatwas and what the arab league was all about but I just wanted the guy to have a positive experience and I wanted a positive experience.

so he found out where my farm was and he and all the men from the mosque had gone camping at the camp ground near there a few months earlier. he told me they all just lay under a big shelter awning type tarp and didn't like Australian tents.
so chatted for a while about echidnas and then camels as it had always been an aim of mine to eventually buy one. Not quite sure if he thought I was serious but I was/am

anyway, was a positive experience.

and the lawn mower chap was there mowing the yard and I said, not much work on because its been so dry and he said, they are great customers.

his mower put a rock through the mosque glass door and he offered to claim it for them on his own insurance and they told him not to worry about it.

that speaks volumes for character.

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