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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40764 Gender:	Re: More Islamophobic attacks? Reply #105 - Oct 31^st, 2014 at 11:48am polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 11:17am: Or to put it another way, a vast majority of Australians don't hold negative views towards muslims. Over 5 million do.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 138981 Gender:	Re: More Islamophobic attacks? Reply #106 - Oct 31^st, 2014 at 12:15pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 11:48am: polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 11:17am: Or to put it another way, a vast majority of Australians don't hold negative views towards muslims. Over 5 million do. More than 17 million don't.
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Reply #107 - Oct 31^st, 2014 at 12:34pm

This is probably more important than anything else - when looking at religions, Islam is way ahead.

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people were five times more likely to hold negative attitudes towards Muslims than any other religious group.

This shows that the negative attitude is not towards ALL religions, as the equivalence mongers like to pretend, but is specifically about the followers of Islam. People can clearly tell the difference between Catholics or Buddhists on the one hand and followers of Islam on the other.

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Reply #108 - Oct 31^st, 2014 at 12:52pm

Soren wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 12:34pm:

This is probably more important than anything else - when looking at religions, Islam is way ahead.

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people were five times more likely to hold negative attitudes towards Muslims than any other religious group.

This shows that the negative attitude is not towards ALL religions, as the equivalence mongers like to pretend, but is specifically about the followers of Islam. People can clearly tell the difference between Catholics or Buddhists on the one hand and followers of Islam on the other.

Again, no surprises here.

The amount of fear-mongering that's going on about Muslims at the moment, is bound to produce those results.

Plus, it's a particularly silly religion anyway.

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Reply #109 - Oct 31^st, 2014 at 12:59pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 12:52pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 12:34pm:

This is probably more important than anything else - when looking at religions, Islam is way ahead.

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people were five times more likely to hold negative attitudes towards Muslims than any other religious group.

This shows that the negative attitude is not towards ALL religions, as the equivalence mongers like to pretend, but is specifically about the followers of Islam. People can clearly tell the difference between Catholics or Buddhists on the one hand and followers of Islam on the other.

Again, no surprises here.

The amount of fear-mongering that's going on about Muslims at the moment, is bound to produce those results.

Plus, it's a particularly silly religion anyway.

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Reply #110 - Oct 31^st, 2014 at 1:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 12:52pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 12:34pm:

This is probably more important than anything else - when looking at religions, Islam is way ahead.

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people were five times more likely to hold negative attitudes towards Muslims than any other religious group.

This shows that the negative attitude is not towards ALL religions, as the equivalence mongers like to pretend, but is specifically about the followers of Islam. People can clearly tell the difference between Catholics or Buddhists on the one hand and followers of Islam on the other.

Again, no surprises here.

The amount of fear-mongering that's going on about Muslims at the moment, is bound to produce those results.

Plus, it's a particularly silly religion anyway.

So which one? Fear-mongering or particularly silly?

"Significant changes from the June dataset relate to identification with Australia, trust in government and a change of rankings in the main problems facing Australia.

A strong agreement with the importance of maintaining the Australian way of life is at its highest level since the Scanlon Surveys began in 2007, and sits at 71%. In June, the figure was 49%.

Trust in government increased from 26% in June to 36% in October, the highest level recorded since 2009.

Lastly, in responding to an open-ended question, 17% of respondents cited terrorism and national security as the most important issue facing Australia. This issue was ranked second overall in the October poll. In June, just 1% of respondents nominated the same issue.

Notably, attitudes towards Muslims did not change from June to October."
http://scanlonfoundation.org.au/australians-support-immigration-multiculturalism...

The attitude towards Islam is unchanged but people are concerned about terrorism and national security.

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Reply #111 - Oct 31^st, 2014 at 1:09pm

Soren wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 1:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 12:52pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 12:34pm:

This is probably more important than anything else - when looking at religions, Islam is way ahead.

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people were five times more likely to hold negative attitudes towards Muslims than any other religious group.

This shows that the negative attitude is not towards ALL religions, as the equivalence mongers like to pretend, but is specifically about the followers of Islam. People can clearly tell the difference between Catholics or Buddhists on the one hand and followers of Islam on the other.

Again, no surprises here.

The amount of fear-mongering that's going on about Muslims at the moment, is bound to produce those results.

Plus, it's a particularly silly religion anyway.

So which one? Fear-mongering or particularly silly?

Both.

What makes you think there can be only one reason?

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 138981 Gender:	Re: More Islamophobic attacks? Reply #112 - Oct 31^st, 2014 at 1:11pm Soren wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 1:03pm: The attitude towards Islam is unchanged but people are concerned about terrorism and national security. How is that surprising? Seriously? The fear-mongering has reached epic proportions: in parliament, in the media, in here, etc.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40764 Gender:	Re: More Islamophobic attacks? Reply #113 - Oct 31^st, 2014 at 1:24pm it'ld be hard to see many people disliking buddhism. Or agnosicm, athiesm, christianity, wiccans .............
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 138981 Gender:	Re: More Islamophobic attacks? Reply #114 - Oct 31^st, 2014 at 1:48pm Soren wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 1:03pm: The attitude towards Islam is unchanged but people are concerned about terrorism and national security. And let's not forget this piece of fear-mongering from the Abbott "Government": "Department of Immigration and Border Protection" What a clever little name change.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 138981 Gender:	Re: More Islamophobic attacks? Reply #115 - Oct 31^st, 2014 at 1:49pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 1:24pm: it'ld be hard to see many people disliking buddhism. Or agnosicm, athiesm, christianity, wiccans ............. Scientology?
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Reply #116 - Oct 31^st, 2014 at 1:57pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 1:48pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 1:03pm:

The attitude towards Islam is unchanged but people are concerned about terrorism and national security.

And let's not forget this piece of fear-mongering from the Abbott "Government":

"Department of Immigration and Border Protection"

People want elected governments to control the borders, not smugglers.

Public concern over asylum seeker arrivals by boat has dropped. In 2013, the issue was seen as the major problem facing Australia by 12 % of people. In 2014, less than 4% of people hold the same view.

“It would seem that acceptance of the government’s measures to stop the arrival of asylum seekers by boat has influenced this outcome,” said Professor Markus.

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Reply #117 - Oct 31^st, 2014 at 1:59pm

Soren wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 1:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 1:48pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 1:03pm:

The attitude towards Islam is unchanged but people are concerned about terrorism and national security.

And let's not forget this piece of fear-mongering from the Abbott "Government":

"Department of Immigration and Border Protection"

People want elected governments to control the borders, not smugglers.

What do you need "protection" from, Soren?

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96364	Re: More Islamophobic attacks? Reply #118 - Oct 31^st, 2014 at 2:02pm According to Soren, Ananda Margas and Armenians. The old boy, you see, likes to pretend they're Muselmen. Shurely shome mishtake, eh?
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Reply #119 - Oct 31^st, 2014 at 2:17pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 1:59pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 1:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 1:48pm:

Soren wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 1:03pm:

The attitude towards Islam is unchanged but people are concerned about terrorism and national security.

And let's not forget this piece of fear-mongering from the Abbott "Government":

"Department of Immigration and Border Protection"

People want elected governments to control the borders, not smugglers.

What do you need "protection" from, Soren?

http://www.eurekastreet.com.au/uploads/image/13/35211.jpg

Unless you are a one worlder, earthian or advocate for open borders I don't think it is controversial that one of the roles of government is to maintain borders.

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