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Reply #135 - Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 3:32pm

More Islamophobic attacks.....

ISIS in Australia [who moslems say, are NOT moslems], ....have attacked moslems in Australia....

That is my take on it, anyway! Shocked

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1414992239/0#0

[And ISIS did declare that they intended to attack apostates, didn't they.]

Will this on-moslem-violence never end ?????

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96421	Re: More Islamophobic attacks? Reply #136 - Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 3:46pm Shurely shome mishtake.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96421	Re: More Islamophobic attacks? Reply #137 - Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 3:47pm Never, Y. As the old boy says, Islam is the enemy. It's very purpose is to be the enemy. Always, absolutely, never ever. On stilts. How could the violence ever end? You'd have nothing to post about.
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Reply #138 - Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 7:54pm

Soren wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 7:26am:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 11:53pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 10:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 2:20pm:

What concerns you about asylum seekers, Sore End?

That most of them are not genuine. The previous Labor Foreign Minister himself said so. He has all the inside info you don't.

To put it simply, Soren, he lied.

Everyone who has a different view to yours is a lying racist bigot.

No, they are not. I often have disagreements with many other posters here and elsewhere but I very rarely call them "lying" anything, unless it is proven they lied. As for being "racists" and/or "bigots", that depends on what they post. You however call anybody who has a contrary opinion to yourself about Muslims and Islam an "apologetic", don't you, Soren? Roll Eyes

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The foreign minister would lie about something like this, because the foreign minister is a racist xenophobe.

No Brain, he called a spade a spade. it is well documented and well-known that the boat arrivals ditched their passports and memorised stories in order to be given the benefit of the doubt.

No, Soren, no assessments had been made, therefore, it was impossible to discover whether or not they were genuine refugees. If they were not genuine refugees, why hadn't they been deported? If it was as open and shut as you proclaim, surely they would have all been sent home immediately? Roll Eyes

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139199 Gender:	Re: More Islamophobic attacks? Reply #139 - Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 8:41pm Soren wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 10:32pm: There is an orderly refugee intake (the queue) that these people seek actively to circumvent (jump) There is no queue for asylum seekers.
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Reply #140 - Nov 4^th, 2014 at 10:50am

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 7:54pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 7:26am:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 11:53pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 10:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 2:20pm:

What concerns you about asylum seekers, Sore End?

That most of them are not genuine. The previous Labor Foreign Minister himself said so. He has all the inside info you don't.

To put it simply, Soren, he lied.

Everyone who has a different view to yours is a lying racist bigot.

No, they are not. I often have disagreements with many other posters here and elsewhere but I very rarely call them "lying" anything, unless it is proven they lied. As for being "racists" and/or "bigots", that depends on what they post. You however call anybody who has a contrary opinion to yourself about Muslims and Islam an "apologetic", don't you, Soren? Roll Eyes

I and others call you an apologist (a lot milder term than your heresy-sniffing 'racists' and 'bigot') because you excuse yourself from making a judgement on the basis that you are not of their religion or country of origin. You also deliberately conflate criticism of Islam with 'persecution', no less, of every unnamed Muslim, which is a stupid and dishonest thing to do. But you do it because you cannot think of a good argument and so this way you can simply denounce anyone who criticises Islam and its role in justifying jihad and sharia.

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Reply #141 - Nov 4^th, 2014 at 7:41pm

Soren wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 10:50am:

I and others call you an apologist (a lot milder term than your heresy-sniffing 'racists' and 'bigot') because you excuse yourself from making a judgement on the basis that you are not of their religion or country of origin. You also deliberately conflate criticism of Islam with 'persecution', no less, of every unnamed Muslim, which is a stupid and dishonest thing to do. But you do it because you cannot think of a good argument and so this way you can simply denounce anyone who criticises Islam and its role in justifying jihad and sharia.

Soren, if someone posts something that is obviously "racist" (and the issue of "race", not religion - just to stop your usual tap dancing), what do you refer to it as? Say, if someone was to call Nelson Mandella an "old black person"?

So, if someone posts something that is obviously "bigoted" (towards religion), what do you refer to it as? Say, if someone was to suggested that, "All Catholics kiss the Pope's arse and worship Satan"?

So, if someone continually criticises one religion and it's adherents, without let up and in an often unwarranted way, despite being criticised themselves for doing it, what do you call it? I'd call it religious persecution, Soren and guess who does it? You. Roll Eyes

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Reply #142 - Nov 4^th, 2014 at 8:04pm

Soren wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 10:50am:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 7:54pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2014 at 7:26am:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 11:53pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 2^nd, 2014 at 10:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 31^st, 2014 at 2:20pm:

What concerns you about asylum seekers, Sore End?

That most of them are not genuine. The previous Labor Foreign Minister himself said so. He has all the inside info you don't.

To put it simply, Soren, he lied.

Everyone who has a different view to yours is a lying racist bigot.

No, they are not. I often have disagreements with many other posters here and elsewhere but I very rarely call them "lying" anything, unless it is proven they lied. As for being "racists" and/or "bigots", that depends on what they post. You however call anybody who has a contrary opinion to yourself about Muslims and Islam an "apologetic", don't you, Soren? Roll Eyes

I and others call you an apologist (a lot milder term than your heresy-sniffing 'racists' and 'bigot') because you excuse yourself from making a judgement on the basis that you are not of their religion or country of origin. You also deliberately conflate criticism of Islam with 'persecution', no less, of every unnamed Muslim, which is a stupid and dishonest thing to do. But you do it because you cannot think of a good argument and so this way you can simply denounce anyone who criticises Islam and its role in justifying jihad and sharia.

Old boy, are you arguing here that you’re not a bigot and a racist?

Or are you just feigning offense because Brian uses such supposedly passe terms?

I’m curious.

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Reply #143 - Nov 4^th, 2014 at 8:39pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 7:41pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 10:50am:

I and others call you an apologist (a lot milder term than your heresy-sniffing 'racists' and 'bigot') because you excuse yourself from making a judgement on the basis that you are not of their religion or country of origin. You also deliberately conflate criticism of Islam with 'persecution', no less, of every unnamed Muslim, which is a stupid and dishonest thing to do. But you do it because you cannot think of a good argument and so this way you can simply denounce anyone who criticises Islam and its role in justifying jihad and sharia.

Soren, if someone posts something that is obviously "racist" (and the issue of "race", not religion - just to stop your usual tap dancing), what do you refer to it as? Say, if someone was to call Nelson Mandella an "old black person"?

Mandela WAS a(n old) black man. The whole thing about Mandela was that he was BLACK. His Blackness was significant. It was the point.
He could not have been who he was if were WHITE.

Don't be ridiculous, Brain.

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Reply #144 - Nov 4^th, 2014 at 8:43pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 7:41pm:

Soren, if someone posts something that is obviously "racist" (and the issue of "race", not religion - just to stop your usual tap dancing), what do you refer to it as? Say, if someone was to call Nelson Mandella an "old black person"?

Is it "racist" to describe someone as an old (well, now dead) black person?

Surely nobody'd be offended by being described as a "black" person any more than as a "white" person - provided they were the requisite tint, of course.

Now, it would be racist to use a racial slur, but that's a whole other post...

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Why the bugger did I get stuck on a planet chalked full of imbeciles?

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Reply #145 - Nov 4^th, 2014 at 8:58pm

Soren wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 8:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 7:41pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 10:50am:

I and others call you an apologist (a lot milder term than your heresy-sniffing 'racists' and 'bigot') because you excuse yourself from making a judgement on the basis that you are not of their religion or country of origin. You also deliberately conflate criticism of Islam with 'persecution', no less, of every unnamed Muslim, which is a stupid and dishonest thing to do. But you do it because you cannot think of a good argument and so this way you can simply denounce anyone who criticises Islam and its role in justifying jihad and sharia.

Soren, if someone posts something that is obviously "racist" (and the issue of "race", not religion - just to stop your usual tap dancing), what do you refer to it as? Say, if someone was to call Nelson Mandella an "old black person"?

Mandela WAS a(n old) black man. The whole thing about Mandela was that he was BLACK. His Blackness was significant. It was the point.
He could not have been who he was if were WHITE.

Don't be ridiculous, Brain.

Here, the old boy attacks such liberal shiboleths as Nelson Mandella. It was, to the old boy, all a guilt-driven appeasement of an awful darkie victim. Apartheid was a decent Lutheran racial system brought down by an awful bleck victim mentality. This is the old boy’s claim. He’s said it all before.

No mention of the 30 odd years said darkie was imprisoned in the highest possible prison classification for being BLACK .And being political.

For the old boy, the history of colonialism and Apartheid in South Africa is just a victim tactic by the blecks, who should not be running the joint at all.

Old boy post number two, innit. Insert Rudyard Kipling poem. Just don’t call the old boy a bigot.

That’s not fair.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: More Islamophobic attacks? Reply #146 - Nov 4^th, 2014 at 8:59pm Karnal wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 8:04pm: Old boy, are you arguing here that you’re not a bigot and a racist? Or are you just feigning offense because Brian uses such supposedly passe terms? I’m curious. No, PB, I am arguing that you are a Paki Bvgger. Make it what you will. Be even curious. Who cares.
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Reply #147 - Nov 4^th, 2014 at 9:11pm

Soren wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 8:59pm:

Who cares.

Who cares?

But, old boy, you cared enough to address Brian’s post. You were most taken back at being considered a racist and a bigot. You protested vigourously.

Please care. I’d hate to see such a lover of humanity give up caring.

We believe in you, old boy. Don’t give up on us.

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Reply #148 - Nov 4^th, 2014 at 11:57pm

Soren wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 8:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 7:41pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 10:50am:

I and others call you an apologist (a lot milder term than your heresy-sniffing 'racists' and 'bigot') because you excuse yourself from making a judgement on the basis that you are not of their religion or country of origin. You also deliberately conflate criticism of Islam with 'persecution', no less, of every unnamed Muslim, which is a stupid and dishonest thing to do. But you do it because you cannot think of a good argument and so this way you can simply denounce anyone who criticises Islam and its role in justifying jihad and sharia.

Soren, if someone posts something that is obviously "racist" (and the issue of "race", not religion - just to stop your usual tap dancing), what do you refer to it as? Say, if someone was to call Nelson Mandella an "old black person"?

Mandela WAS a(n old) black man. The whole thing about Mandela was that he was BLACK. His Blackness was significant. It was the point.
He could not have been who he was if were WHITE.

Don't be ridiculous, Brain.

Ah, the political correctness translator strikes, Soren. I said in fact:

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Say, if someone was to call Nelson Mandella an "old n_i_g_g_e_r"?

So, would that be a racist statement in your view? What would you refer to it as? "Racism", perhaps? Roll Eyes

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Reply #149 - Nov 5^th, 2014 at 2:44pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 7:41pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 10:50am:

I and others call you an apologist (a lot milder term than your heresy-sniffing 'racists' and 'bigot') because you excuse yourself from making a judgement on the basis that you are not of their religion or country of origin. You also deliberately conflate criticism of Islam with 'persecution', no less, of every unnamed Muslim, which is a stupid and dishonest thing to do. But you do it because you cannot think of a good argument and so this way you can simply denounce anyone who criticises Islam and its role in justifying jihad and sharia.

Soren, if someone posts something that is obviously "racist" (and the issue of "race", not religion - just to stop your usual tap dancing), what do you refer to it as? Say, if someone was to call Nelson Mandella an "old black person"?

So, if someone posts something that is obviously "bigoted" (towards religion), what do you refer to it as? Say, if someone was to suggested that, "All Catholics kiss the Pope's arse and worship Satan"?

So, if someone continually criticises one religion and it's adherents, without let up and in an often unwarranted way, despite being criticised themselves for doing it, what do you call it?

So it's not ok to dislike and criticise any single belief system, say, Nazism, Islam, Catholicism, Satanism, whatever, one has to find something nice, something to like about it to make any criticism fair? And one has to dislike and criticise all other system in equal measure lest you call them a bigot and a persecutor?

You have the zeal of a heresy sniffer-outer, Brain. You cannot argue, you can only denounce.

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I'd call it religious persecution, Soren and guess who does it? You. Roll Eyes

You are ridiculous.

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