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Reply #150 - Nov 5^th, 2014 at 8:12pm

Soren wrote on Nov 5^th, 2014 at 2:44pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 7:41pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 10:50am:

I and others call you an apologist (a lot milder term than your heresy-sniffing 'racists' and 'bigot') because you excuse yourself from making a judgement on the basis that you are not of their religion or country of origin. You also deliberately conflate criticism of Islam with 'persecution', no less, of every unnamed Muslim, which is a stupid and dishonest thing to do. But you do it because you cannot think of a good argument and so this way you can simply denounce anyone who criticises Islam and its role in justifying jihad and sharia.

Soren, if someone posts something that is obviously "racist" (and the issue of "race", not religion - just to stop your usual tap dancing), what do you refer to it as? Say, if someone was to call Nelson Mandella an "old black person"?

So, if someone posts something that is obviously "bigoted" (towards religion), what do you refer to it as? Say, if someone was to suggested that, "All Catholics kiss the Pope's arse and worship Satan"?

So, if someone continually criticises one religion and it's adherents, without let up and in an often unwarranted way, despite being criticised themselves for doing it, what do you call it?

So it's not ok to dislike and criticise any single belief system, say, Nazism, Islam, Catholicism, Satanism, whatever, one has to find something nice, something to like about it to make any criticism fair? And one has to dislike and criticise all other system in equal measure lest you call them a bigot and a persecutor?

Old boy post number two: the soft bigotry of low expectations. No one has the right to not be offended.

Brian brings out the best in the old boy.

Many thanks, Brain.

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Reply #151 - Nov 5^th, 2014 at 8:30pm

Soren wrote on Nov 5^th, 2014 at 2:44pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 7:41pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 10:50am:

I and others call you an apologist (a lot milder term than your heresy-sniffing 'racists' and 'bigot') because you excuse yourself from making a judgement on the basis that you are not of their religion or country of origin. You also deliberately conflate criticism of Islam with 'persecution', no less, of every unnamed Muslim, which is a stupid and dishonest thing to do. But you do it because you cannot think of a good argument and so this way you can simply denounce anyone who criticises Islam and its role in justifying jihad and sharia.

Soren, if someone posts something that is obviously "racist" (and the issue of "race", not religion - just to stop your usual tap dancing), what do you refer to it as? Say, if someone was to call Nelson Mandella an "old black person"?

So, if someone posts something that is obviously "bigoted" (towards religion), what do you refer to it as? Say, if someone was to suggested that, "All Catholics kiss the Pope's arse and worship Satan"?

So, if someone continually criticises one religion and it's adherents, without let up and in an often unwarranted way, despite being criticised themselves for doing it, what do you call it?

So it's not ok to dislike and criticise any single belief system, say, Nazism, Islam, Catholicism, Satanism, whatever, one has to find something nice, something to like about it to make any criticism fair? And one has to dislike and criticise all other system in equal measure lest you call them a bigot and a persecutor?

You have the zeal of a heresy sniffer-outer, Brain. You cannot argue, you can only denounce.

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I'd call it religious persecution, Soren and guess who does it? You. Roll Eyes

You are ridiculous.

Avoiding the questions, again, Soren? How unsurprising. I didn't ask you about motivation, I didn't ask you about alternative belief systems. I asked you about what do you call a person's argument when it fulfils those requirements. So, please answer them.

Soren, if someone posts something that is obviously "racist" (and the issue of "race", not religion - just to stop your usual tap dancing), what do you refer to it as? Say, if someone was to call Nelson Mandella an "old n_i_g_g_e_r"?

So, if someone posts something that is obviously "bigoted" (towards religion), what do you refer to it as? Say, if someone was to suggested that, "All Catholics kiss the Pope's arse and worship Satan"?

So, if someone continually criticises one religion and it's adherents, without let up and in an often unwarranted way, despite being criticised themselves for doing it, what do you call it?

How do you identify these sorts of comments, Soren? Roll Eyes

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Reply #152 - Nov 5^th, 2014 at 8:46pm

Brain, come come. The old boy thinks the very idea of racism is ridiculous. Of course the tinted races should be subjugated. To suggest otherwise is old boy post number two: the soft bigotry of low expectations.

After all, we expect much more subjugation from the tinted races, thank you very much. Thwy’re inferior.

Now stop.disturbing the old boy. As Sprint would say, your posts amount to stalking. No one has the right to not be offended, and I think it most unfair that you would infer such mean things about the old boy.

He has feelings too, you know.

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Reply #153 - Nov 5^th, 2014 at 8:49pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 5^th, 2014 at 8:30pm:

Avoiding the questions, again, Soren? How unsurprising. I didn't ask you about motivation, I didn't ask you about alternative belief systems. I asked you about what do you call a person's argument when it fulfils those requirements. So, please answer them.

Soren, if someone posts something that is obviously "racist" (and the issue of "race", not religion - just to stop your usual tap dancing), what do you refer to it as? Say, if someone was to call Nelson Mandella an "old n_i_g_g_e_r"?

So, if someone posts something that is obviously "bigoted" (towards religion), what do you refer to it as? Say, if someone was to suggested that, "All Catholics kiss the Pope's arse and worship Satan"?

So, if someone continually criticises one religion and it's adherents, without let up and in an often unwarranted way, despite being criticised themselves for doing it, what do you call it?

How do you identify these sorts of comments, Soren? Roll Eyes

Nobody is doing these thing so I don't know why you ask these questions. Unless of course you have already decided the answers. (which you have) In which case why ask the questions?

Either way, you are ridiculous, heresy-sniffing or both.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96367	Re: More Islamophobic attacks? Reply #154 - Nov 5^th, 2014 at 8:52pm Old boy, why don’t you use old boy post number three and put Brain out of his misery? Use Rudyard Kipling.
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Reply #155 - Nov 5^th, 2014 at 8:54pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 5^th, 2014 at 8:46pm:

Brain, come come. The old boy thinks the very idea of racism is ridiculous. Of course the tinted races should be subjugated. To suggest otherwise is old boy post number two: the soft bigotry of low expectations.

After all, we expect much more subjugation from the tinted races, thank you very much. Thwy’re inferior.

Now stop.disturbing the old boy. As Sprint would say, your posts amount to stalking. No one has the right to not be offended, and I think it most unfair that you would infer such mean things about the old boy.

He has feelings too, you know.

Gibberish.
The only point you are making by acting like a fool, PB, is that you area fool.

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Reply #156 - Nov 5^th, 2014 at 8:57pm

Soren wrote on Nov 5^th, 2014 at 8:54pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 5^th, 2014 at 8:46pm:

Brain, come come. The old boy thinks the very idea of racism is ridiculous. Of course the tinted races should be subjugated. To suggest otherwise is old boy post number two: the soft bigotry of low expectations.

After all, we expect much more subjugation from the tinted races, thank you very much. Thwy’re inferior.

Now stop.disturbing the old boy. As Sprint would say, your posts amount to stalking. No one has the right to not be offended, and I think it most unfair that you would infer such mean things about the old boy.

He has feelings too, you know.

Gibberish.
The only point you are making by acting like a fool, PB, is that you area fool.

Oh, old boy. That’s old boy post number one. That’s the idiot post.

Good choice.

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Reply #157 - Nov 5^th, 2014 at 11:10pm

Soren wrote on Nov 5^th, 2014 at 8:49pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 5^th, 2014 at 8:30pm:

Avoiding the questions, again, Soren? How unsurprising. I didn't ask you about motivation, I didn't ask you about alternative belief systems. I asked you about what do you call a person's argument when it fulfils those requirements. So, please answer them.

Soren, if someone posts something that is obviously "racist" (and the issue of "race", not religion - just to stop your usual tap dancing), what do you refer to it as? Say, if someone was to call Nelson Mandella an "old n_i_g_g_e_r"?

So, if someone posts something that is obviously "bigoted" (towards religion), what do you refer to it as? Say, if someone was to suggested that, "All Catholics kiss the Pope's arse and worship Satan"?

So, if someone continually criticises one religion and it's adherents, without let up and in an often unwarranted way, despite being criticised themselves for doing it, what do you call it?

How do you identify these sorts of comments, Soren? Roll Eyes

Nobody is doing these thing so I don't know why you ask these questions.

Of course people are doing these things, Soren.

As to why I ask these questions? I ask them of course to find out information, to discover your views on the matter. Why do you so studiously avoiding answering them? Are they really that hard? Roll Eyes

Why tap dance around them? Why not just answer them? Roll Eyes

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Reply #158 - Nov 6^th, 2014 at 3:27pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 5^th, 2014 at 11:10pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 5^th, 2014 at 8:49pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 5^th, 2014 at 8:30pm:

Avoiding the questions, again, Soren? How unsurprising. I didn't ask you about motivation, I didn't ask you about alternative belief systems. I asked you about what do you call a person's argument when it fulfils those requirements. So, please answer them.

Soren, if someone posts something that is obviously "racist" (and the issue of "race", not religion - just to stop your usual tap dancing), what do you refer to it as? Say, if someone was to call Nelson Mandella an "old n_i_g_g_e_r"?

So, if someone posts something that is obviously "bigoted" (towards religion), what do you refer to it as? Say, if someone was to suggested that, "All Catholics kiss the Pope's arse and worship Satan"?

So, if someone continually criticises one religion and it's adherents, without let up and in an often unwarranted way, despite being criticised themselves for doing it, what do you call it?

How do you identify these sorts of comments, Soren? Roll Eyes

Nobody is doing these thing so I don't know why you ask these questions.

Of course people are doing these things, Soren.

As to why I ask these questions? I ask them of course to find out information, to discover your views on the matter. Why do you so studiously avoiding answering them? Are they really that hard? Roll Eyes

Why tap dance around them? Why not just answer them? Roll Eyes

You are not asking honest questions. you are sniffing for heresy.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96367	Re: More Islamophobic attacks? Reply #159 - Nov 6^th, 2014 at 6:46pm Sometimes a question is just a question, old boy.
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Datalife Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2405 Gender:	Re: More Islamophobic attacks? Reply #160 - Nov 6^th, 2014 at 6:48pm Soren wrote on Nov 6^th, 2014 at 3:27pm: You are not asking honest questions. you are sniffing for heresy. Lol, brilliant, Brian, the witch smeller pursuivant.
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Reply #161 - Nov 6^th, 2014 at 7:29pm

Datalife wrote on Nov 6^th, 2014 at 6:48pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 6^th, 2014 at 3:27pm:

You are not asking honest questions. you are sniffing for heresy.

Lol, brilliant, Brian, the witch smeller pursuivant. Grin

No no, the old boy sniffs another delicasie. He must assess the grade, you see.

It’s scientific. The old boy’s a Freudian. University of Balogney.

You might have something, DL. Any chance you could bend over for the old boy?

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Reply #162 - Nov 6^th, 2014 at 7:37pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 6^th, 2014 at 7:29pm:

Datalife wrote on Nov 6^th, 2014 at 6:48pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 6^th, 2014 at 3:27pm:

You are not asking honest questions. you are sniffing for heresy.

Lol, brilliant, Brian, the witch smeller pursuivant. Grin

No no, the old boy sniffs another delicasie. He must assess the grade, you see.

It’s scientific. The old boy’s a Freudian. University of Balogney.

You might have something, DL. Any chance you could bend over for the old boy?

Gone beyond repetitive static to radio ga ga.

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Reply #163 - Nov 6^th, 2014 at 11:07pm

Soren wrote on Nov 6^th, 2014 at 3:27pm:

You are not asking honest questions. you are sniffing for heresy.

Nope. I'm asking an honest question. I'm trying to figure out how you can hold such a strange belief that you aren't allowed to correctly identify an argument for what it is. Roll Eyes

If it isn't "racism", then what is it, Soren? Well? Roll Eyes

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Reply #164 - Nov 7^th, 2014 at 9:25am

Datalife wrote on Nov 6^th, 2014 at 7:37pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 6^th, 2014 at 7:29pm:

Datalife wrote on Nov 6^th, 2014 at 6:48pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 6^th, 2014 at 3:27pm:

You are not asking honest questions. you are sniffing for heresy.

Lol, brilliant, Brian, the witch smeller pursuivant. Grin

No no, the old boy sniffs another delicasie. He must assess the grade, you see.

It’s scientific. The old boy’s a Freudian. University of Balogney.

You might have something, DL. Any chance you could bend over for the old boy?

Gone beyond repetitive static to radio ga ga.

Shurely shome mishtake.

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