Brian Ross wrote on Nov 10^th, 2014 at 12:58am:


Absolutely not. The only person responsible for the old boy's belief system is the Muselmen.

It's an existential question. Your Muslim is the enemy, you see. He has always been the enemy. His very purpose is to be the enemy. Always, absolutely, never ever.

How can the old boy be responsible for his belief system?

I blame Islam.

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 10^th, 2014 at 12:58am:



If their co-religions expressly acted in the name of their shared religion, then they are responsible. They have shaped their shared religion as much as all their co-religionists. If they haven't and it has gone to the dogs, they should step up and shape it into something they can be proud of.

Belief is a personal choice of conscience, not a fate.  You are responsible.

Communists resigned from the party when membership was unconscionable.Catholics leave the Church, people leave belief systems. They are not immutable, even if they pretend to be Allah's final word.

There comes a point when you either do not want to associate with your co-religionists or you take upon yourself the correction of your religion.  If you area mere fellow-traveller all your life then you probably can't be bothered either way - in which case you are, well, a fellow traveller, rather than a committed believer -  and so you do not much care about the reputation.

Soren wrote on Nov 11^th, 2014 at 5:31pm:


For those whom appear to enjoy tap dancing...

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 10^th, 2014 at 12:58am:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 16^th, 2014 at 4:45pm:



If someone jumps to the accusation of 'racists!!!!' I condemn that.  Nelson Mandela was a black man. Nige r is an unpleasant word for black people but it's a word, like f vck for making love. Whatchagonna do? Honkey is a white person. Pom is an Englishman. Chink is an east Asian. Using these words is impolite and in most settings unwelcome. But blacks call each other n iggers all the time, so they are switched onto the po-mo irony of language in a way you, po-faced little heresy sniffer, never will be.



Bigoted - well, kiss my Lutheran arse, you little anti-religious equal opportunity knocker of all religions (except Islam of course). Is that bigoted? Is any disagreement with Islam bigoted? You never worry about religion, numpty, you only ever worry about Islam. Can you please model for us the correct criticism of Islam? (we will be waiting foir a very, very long time).


Criticising religion - why the bloody hell can't anyone criticise any religion as long as they want? There are people where who criticise the Libs and Labor, left and right without letup. What the bloody hell is so special about Islam (other than the underlying, seething threat of violence) that it cannot be criticised without letup? I don't think it has any redeeming features. Are you going to censor what I think?  Why can't Islam be criticised without letup?
So I have to cuddle Nazism for 10 minutes in every hour of criticism? 20 minutes? Half and half?


What I like about this Forum is that I can come across people like you, who do not exist in the real world because they would not dare to be so amazingly stupid in front of people who know them. 

Soren wrote on Nov 16^th, 2014 at 5:41pm:


So, then I take it you're perfectly OK with and accepting of the concepts of racism - that one race is superior to another on the basis of biological determinism - the colour of one's skin, the shape of one's eyes/nose/ears/etc, determines one's psychological and intelligence characteristics, Soren?  Afterall the use of racist language is merely the outward expression of such beliefs, right?

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You seem to miss the point - again - perhaps deliberately.  Bigotry is when an argument's rightness or wrongness is determined on the basis of the belief and prejudice of the person making it, not on the basis of its merits.  ie, "He is a Muslim, therefore he is wrong!"  or "Catholics are all Papists and their church is corrupt, therefore they wrong!"   Doesn't matter whether the argument is wrong or right, what is more important is the source, Soren.  So therefore, the point, "Islam has a big emphasis on charity and respect for the aged," is immaterial, it is damned in the eyes of the bigot because it is Islam, not whether or not it is correct or commendable.    According to you, it seems, this is perfectly OK.   Which suggests what about your viewpoint?

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Comparing apples and oranges again, Soren?

So, I take it you have no problems with anti-Semitism?   

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You call it "stupidity", I call it common decency.  How often do you rail about a person's religion in front of them the way you go on about Islam?  You must lead a very lonely existence if you have no consideration of the feelings and emotions of others...   

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 16^th, 2014 at 5:55pm:



I think you are terrible, dishonest w anker and an idiot.

Can I think that? 
Or are you going to raid my mind and impose your stupid, fascist heresy-sniffing nonsense on what I think?

moses wrote on Nov 16^th, 2014 at 5:27pm:


Depends, is it warranted to criticise an entire religion and all it's followers for what a minority do?

So, how are you Christians getting on with your Paedophile thing again?   Oh, and that Christian Terrorism stuff?  Corruption in the Catholic Church?  Just so many things that Christianity needs to address, right? 

moses wrote on Nov 17^th, 2014 at 4:16pm:


Where have I defended Terrorism?

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You desperately shy away from any responsibility for the failings of your religion and your co-religionists.

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Yet they believe they are following Christian doctrine.

Who are you to declare them apostates?  What authority do you have?  You're a nobody who is a notable racist/bigot/religious persecutor!  You try and shirk all responsibility for what your co-religionists are doing in the name of your religion.  They are promoting "hate speech, jihad, hijrah, taqiyya and kitman, terrorism, self alienation from normal society, etc." and you're acting as their apologist!  You should be deported immediately!  All your kind should be nuked, immediately!