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Re: More Islamophobic attacks?
Reply #345 - Feb 22nd, 2015 at 6:25pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 6:17pm:
Soren wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 5:13pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 3:31pm:
Soren wrote on Feb 21st, 2015 at 9:22pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 20th, 2015 at 11:01pm:
There is no "underlying hate of Islam" that I've detected, Matty/Adam/Anti.   Roll Eyes

You couldn't detect the truth if it was up you, Brain.

http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/38498...


Soren,  ISIS is not Islam. 


Islam has nuffin' to do with the Islamic State.

Sure. The Pope is not Catholic.


So, does Joseph Kony determine what Christian is or does, Soren?   Roll Eyes


Yes, of course he does, EVERYONE KNOWS that Kony IS the most respected Chritsan in the world and everything he does and says is eagerly followed by the Pope, the Queen, the Protestant Churches, all Christians.



You are lunatic, Brain, and a dreadful and sinister disgrace.



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Re: More Islamophobic attacks?
Reply #346 - Feb 22nd, 2015 at 6:49pm
 
Soren wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 6:25pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 6:17pm:
Soren wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 5:13pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 3:31pm:
Soren wrote on Feb 21st, 2015 at 9:22pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 20th, 2015 at 11:01pm:
There is no "underlying hate of Islam" that I've detected, Matty/Adam/Anti.   Roll Eyes

You couldn't detect the truth if it was up you, Brain.

http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/38498...


Soren,  ISIS is not Islam. 


Islam has nuffin' to do with the Islamic State.

Sure. The Pope is not Catholic.


So, does Joseph Kony determine what Christian is or does, Soren?   Roll Eyes


Yes, of course he does, EVERYONE KNOWS that Kony IS the most respected Chritsan in the world and everything he does and says is eagerly followed by the Pope, the Queen, the Protestant Churches, all Christians.

You are lunatic, Brain, and a dreadful and sinister disgrace.


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fanatic
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Pronunciation: /fəˈnatɪk

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Definition of fanatic in English:
noun
1A person filled with excessive and single-minded zeal, especially for an extreme religious or political cause: religious fanatics
More example sentences Synonyms
1.1 informal A person with an obsessive interest in and enthusiasm for a particular activity: a fitness fanatic
More example sentences Synonyms
adjective
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Filled with or expressing excessive zeal: his eyes had a fanatic iciness
More example sentences
Origin

mid 16th century (as an adjective): from French fanatique or Latin fanaticus 'of a temple, inspired by a god', from fanum 'temple'. The adjective originally described behaviour that might result from possession by a god or demon, hence the earliest sense of the noun 'a religious maniac' (mid 17th century).

[Source]

Perhaps you'd care to explain how this definition applies to me, Soren?  You appear to be more of a fanatic than myself, only ever commenting on one or two topics (ie "Islam" and "Left-Wingers").   Roll Eyes
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Re: More Islamophobic attacks?
Reply #347 - Feb 22nd, 2015 at 10:05pm
 
LOL

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 6:49pm:
Perhaps you'd care to explain how this definition applies to me, Soren?  You appear to be more of a fanatic than myself, only ever commenting on one or two topics (ie "Islam" and "Left-Wingers").


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Re: More Islamophobic attacks?
Reply #348 - Feb 23rd, 2015 at 7:03am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 6:49pm:
Soren wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 6:25pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 6:17pm:
Soren wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 5:13pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 3:31pm:
Soren wrote on Feb 21st, 2015 at 9:22pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 20th, 2015 at 11:01pm:
There is no "underlying hate of Islam" that I've detected, Matty/Adam/Anti.   Roll Eyes

You couldn't detect the truth if it was up you, Brain.

http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/38498...


Soren,  ISIS is not Islam. 


Islam has nuffin' to do with the Islamic State.

Sure. The Pope is not Catholic.


So, does Joseph Kony determine what Christian is or does, Soren?   Roll Eyes


Yes, of course he does, EVERYONE KNOWS that Kony IS the most respected Chritsan in the world and everything he does and says is eagerly followed by the Pope, the Queen, the Protestant Churches, all Christians.

You are lunatic, Brain, and a dreadful and sinister disgrace.


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fanatic
Line breaks: fan|atŠic
Pronunciation: /fəˈnatɪk

/
Definition of fanatic in English:
noun
1A person filled with excessive and single-minded zeal, especially for an extreme religious or political cause: religious fanatics
More example sentences Synonyms
1.1 informal A person with an obsessive interest in and enthusiasm for a particular activity: a fitness fanatic
More example sentences Synonyms
adjective
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Filled with or expressing excessive zeal: his eyes had a fanatic iciness
More example sentences
Origin

mid 16th century (as an adjective): from French fanatique or Latin fanaticus 'of a temple, inspired by a god', from fanum 'temple'. The adjective originally described behaviour that might result from possession by a god or demon, hence the earliest sense of the noun 'a religious maniac' (mid 17th century).

[Source]

Perhaps you'd care to explain how this definition applies to me, Soren?  You appear to be more of a fanatic than myself, only ever commenting on one or two topics (ie "Islam" and "Left-Wingers").   Roll Eyes

You are lunatic, Brain, and a dreadful and sinister disgrace.

And a vain, preening fathead.

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Re: More Islamophobic attacks?
Reply #349 - Feb 23rd, 2015 at 8:00am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 3:31pm:
Soren wrote on Feb 21st, 2015 at 9:22pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 20th, 2015 at 11:01pm:
There is no "underlying hate of Islam" that I've detected, Matty/Adam/Anti.   Roll Eyes

You couldn't detect the truth if it was up you, Brain.

http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/38498...



Soren,  ISIS is not Islam.

It represents as you well know, one small interpretation of Islam.






Brian Ross,

In what sense isn't ISIS and ISLAM the same beast ?



e.g.

ISIS supports jihad warfare

ISLAM supports jihad warfare



ISIS supports dhimmitude

ISLAM supports dhimmitude

[dhimmitude = = servitude/enslavement of Jews and Christians, enforcing a status of 'serfdom' upon Jews and Christians]



ISIS supports stoning for adultery

ISLAM supports stoning for adultery



ISIS supports amputation for theft

ISLAM supports amputation for theft



ISIS supports the death penalty for apostasy

ISLAM supports the death penalty for apostasy



ISIS supports the supremacy of ISLAM being established through warfare against disbelievers

ISLAM supports the supremacy of ISLAM being established through warfare against disbelievers






Brian Ross,

Please, do tell us;

In what sense is ISIS 'different' from ISLAM ?






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FROM THE LIPS OF MOSLEMS....

FROM THE LIPS OF THE GRAND MUFTI OF SAUDI ARABIA....


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Creed of the sword
Mark Durie
September 23, 2006
.....the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, Sheikh Abdel Aziz al-Sheikh, issued a statement on the official Saudi news service, defending Muslims' divine right to resort to violence: "The spread of Islam has gone through several phases, secret and then public, in Mecca and Medina. God then authorised the faithful to defend themselves and to fight against those fighting them, which amounts to a right legitimised by God. This ... is quite reasonable, and God will not hate it."
Saudi Arabia's most senior cleric also explained that war was never Islam's ancient founder, the prophet Mohammed's, first choice: "He gave three options: either accept Islam, or surrender and pay tax, and they will be allowed to remain in their land, observing their religion under the protection of Muslims." Thus, according to the Grand Mufti, the third option of violence against non-Muslims was only a last resort, if they refused to convert or surrender peacefully to the armies of Islam.
.......At the beginning, in Mohammed's Meccan period, when he was weaker and his followers few, passages of the Koran encouraged peaceful relations and avoidance of conflict: "Invite (all) to the way of your Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious." (16:125)
Later, after persecution and emigration to Medina in the first year of the Islamic calendar, authority was given to engage in warfare for defensive purposes only: "Fight in the path of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits, for God does not love transgressors." (2:190)
As the Muslim community grew stronger and conflict with its neighbours did not abate, further revelations expanded the licence for waging war, until in Sura 9, regarded as one of the last chapters to be revealed, it is concluded that war against non-Muslims could be waged more or less at any time and in any place to extend the dominance of Islam.


http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20460114-601,00.html




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Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami



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How Circumstance Dictates Islamic Behavior
January 18, 2012

Preach Peace When Weak, Wage War When Strong


"...all notions of peace with non-Muslims are based on circumstance.

When Muslims are weak, they should be peaceful; when strong, they should go on the offensive."

Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami - an ISLAMIC scholar and Egyptian Salafi leader
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/how-circumstance-dictates-isla...

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: More Islamophobic attacks?
Reply #350 - Feb 23rd, 2015 at 9:19am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 3:31pm:
Soren wrote on Feb 21st, 2015 at 9:22pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 20th, 2015 at 11:01pm:
There is no "underlying hate of Islam" that I've detected, Matty/Adam/Anti.   Roll Eyes

You couldn't detect the truth if it was up you, Brain.

http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/38498...


Soren,  ISIS is not Islam.  It represents as you well know, one small interpretation of Islam.   It's the equivalent to saying Joseph Kony represents all of Christianity!   Roll Eyes



To say that the Islamic State has nothing to do with Islam is like saying that the Crusades had nothing to do with Christianity.

Rank stupidity - and you are it's standard-bearer, vain little preener.



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Re: More Islamophobic attacks?
Reply #351 - Feb 23rd, 2015 at 9:33am
 
Soren wrote on Feb 23rd, 2015 at 9:19am:
To say that the Islamic State has nothing to do with Islam is like saying that the Crusades had nothing to do with Christianity


The crusades had the official seal of approval from the head of all of Christendom in the west - the Pope. While there is no equivalent head in Islam, muslim leaders across the world are almost united in their opposition to IS.

The difference between the two couldn't be more stark.
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #352 - Feb 23rd, 2015 at 9:55am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 23rd, 2015 at 9:33am:
Soren wrote on Feb 23rd, 2015 at 9:19am:
To say that the Islamic State has nothing to do with Islam is like saying that the Crusades had nothing to do with Christianity


The crusades had the official seal of approval from the head of all of Christendom in the west - the Pope.

While there is no equivalent head in Islam, muslim leaders across the world are almost united in their opposition to IS.

The difference between the two couldn't be more stark.






Not really.

The reason why established
"muslim leaders across the world are almost united in their opposition to IS"
, is because established moslem leaders across the world all see ISIS as a threat to their own current position and authority, on 'the moslem street'.

Established moslem leaders across the world are almost all despots and dictators, who oppress their subjects.

And ISIS ?

What type of regime would ISIS try to institute for itself ???

I think we can all see, what type of regime ISIS is trying to establish, in Syria and Iraq.






Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1412206324/1#1
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The truth is that in the real 'ISLAMIC' world, every distinct moslem ISLAMIC group, is in competition with and against, every other distinct ISLAMIC group.


Each and every distinct ISLAMIC group [separated by distance from each other], will assert that - they only - are the true expression of pure ISLAM.

And therefore it is they alone, who have the right to both subjugate and to rule over every other ISLAMIC group [....even those moslems who ostensibly belong their own moslem faction].

It is true!           Smiley






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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1410694482/49#49
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Every moslem ISLAMIC group, is in competition with every other ISLAMIC group.

There have been wars among moslems, since 2 minutes after Mohammed died.

Hamas, ISIS, Taleban and Boko Haram, all proffer themselves to the 'moslem street', individually, as the true expression of ISLAM.



And so do the Saudis, and the Iranians.



The truth is that moslems form alliances, with those they hate, against those they hate even more!!!

ISIS and Al-Qaeda are COMPETITORS for the 'moslem street' !!!!!

The Saudis and Al-Qaeda are COMPETITORS for the 'moslem street' !!!!!

And so it is, with every moslem group.


Even moslem groups resident within Australia, tell us, that they are the true expression of ISLAM.

And if they had the means and the opportunity, those very moslem groups resident within Australia, would be slaughtering each other - AND US.



It is true!           Smiley

WAKE UP.





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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: More Islamophobic attacks?
Reply #353 - Feb 23rd, 2015 at 10:28am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 23rd, 2015 at 9:33am:
Soren wrote on Feb 23rd, 2015 at 9:19am:
To say that the Islamic State has nothing to do with Islam is like saying that the Crusades had nothing to do with Christianity


The crusades had the official seal of approval from the head of all of Christendom in the west - the Pope. While there is no equivalent head in Islam, muslim leaders across the world are almost united in their opposition to IS.

The difference between the two couldn't be more stark.

As well as MANY Islamic leaders supporting it, certainly supporting its aims if not all its barbaric methods.
For example, there would be widespread Muslim support for ending the Anglo-French settlement of the middle east (ISIL's done that, so tick); a caliphate (tick); sharia governed Islamic jurisdictions (tick); jihad against the shia and alawi (tick) infidels in Muslims lands (tick); making Islam the central pillar of political life (tick).

ISIL is ticking a lot of things on the Muslim wishlist, if not quite all of it. The violence is embarrassing mostly because it is based on the early examples of Mohammed and his band of brothers.

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Reply #354 - Feb 25th, 2015 at 11:02pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 23rd, 2015 at 9:33am:
Soren wrote on Feb 23rd, 2015 at 9:19am:
To say that the Islamic State has nothing to do with Islam is like saying that the Crusades had nothing to do with Christianity


The crusades had the official seal of approval from the head of all of Christendom in the west - the Pope. While there is no equivalent head in Islam, muslim leaders across the world are almost united in their opposition to IS.

The difference between the two couldn't be more stark.

Al Baghdadi is the caliph.  Has more followers than Mohammed did after 2 years.



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Reply #355 - Feb 26th, 2015 at 1:11pm
 
Soren wrote on Feb 25th, 2015 at 11:02pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 23rd, 2015 at 9:33am:
Soren wrote on Feb 23rd, 2015 at 9:19am:
To say that the Islamic State has nothing to do with Islam is like saying that the Crusades had nothing to do with Christianity


The crusades had the official seal of approval from the head of all of Christendom in the west - the Pope. While there is no equivalent head in Islam, muslim leaders across the world are almost united in their opposition to IS.

The difference between the two couldn't be more stark.

Al Baghdadi is the caliph.  Has more followers than Mohammed did after 2 years.


So?  Mohammed was relying on word of mouth.  Al Baghdadi is relying on Facebook and Twitter to get his converts...   Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy
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Reply #356 - Feb 27th, 2015 at 6:51pm
 
Soren wrote on Feb 23rd, 2015 at 9:19am:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 3:31pm:
Soren wrote on Feb 21st, 2015 at 9:22pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 20th, 2015 at 11:01pm:
There is no "underlying hate of Islam" that I've detected, Matty/Adam/Anti.   Roll Eyes

You couldn't detect the truth if it was up you, Brain.

http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/38498...


Soren,  ISIS is not Islam.  It represents as you well know, one small interpretation of Islam.   It's the equivalent to saying Joseph Kony represents all of Christianity!   Roll Eyes



To say that the Islamic State has nothing to do with Islam is like saying that the Crusades had nothing to do with Christianity.

Rank stupidity - and you are it's standard-bearer, vain little preener.


So, how much does Joseph Kony represent Christianity, Soren?

Islamic State proclaims itself Islamic but its the equivalent to Joseph Kony proclaiming his African Republic Christian.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #357 - Feb 27th, 2015 at 9:02pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 6:51pm:
Soren wrote on Feb 23rd, 2015 at 9:19am:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 3:31pm:
Soren wrote on Feb 21st, 2015 at 9:22pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 20th, 2015 at 11:01pm:
There is no "underlying hate of Islam" that I've detected, Matty/Adam/Anti.   Roll Eyes

You couldn't detect the truth if it was up you, Brain.

http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/38498...


Soren,  ISIS is not Islam.  It represents as you well know, one small interpretation of Islam.   It's the equivalent to saying Joseph Kony represents all of Christianity!   Roll Eyes



To say that the Islamic State has nothing to do with Islam is like saying that the Crusades had nothing to do with Christianity.

Rank stupidity - and you are it's standard-bearer, vain little preener.


So, how much does Joseph Kony represent Christianity, Soren?

Islamic State proclaims itself Islamic but its the equivalent to Joseph Kony proclaiming his African Republic Christian.   Roll Eyes

You are an idiot.
Why?
Because you would not be able to perceive pertinent points if you were repeatedly smacked in the face with them. Your ability to distinguish pertinent from irrelevant is zero.

You are simply too stupid. It is a paradigm difference. You operate in lala land while he rest of us are aiming for a rational discussion. Not your plateau.

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Reply #358 - Feb 27th, 2015 at 9:03pm
 
You do realize it goes in one ear and straight out his other.
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The quran was not written by allah unless allah has no knowledge of science and historical facts. No quran or prophet mohammed existed until 60 years after mohammed's death.
 
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Reply #359 - Feb 27th, 2015 at 10:07pm
 
SweetLambo wrote on Feb 27th, 2015 at 9:03pm:
You do realize it goes in one ear and straight out his other.

I do.

But in this relativising world even basic truths need to be spelled out  - and spelled out every day.
Idiots must be named every day. Their reduced ability to comprehend and their limited attention span necessitate it.
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