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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96218 Gender:	Re: More Islamophobic attacks? Reply #630 - May 14^th, 2015 at 4:38pm Soren wrote on May 14^th, 2015 at 12:00pm: I don't remember it Ah.
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Reply #631 - May 14^th, 2015 at 9:26pm

|dev|null wrote on May 13^th, 2015 at 5:31pm:

Soren wrote on May 13^th, 2015 at 3:35pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 12^th, 2015 at 5:21pm:

moses wrote on May 12^th, 2015 at 4:35pm:

I accept that muslims and their apologists are unable to explain how islam can be reformed.

By voting?

Haram.

Yet, within the Mosque it is used to determine governance issues and people Soren. Therefore, it must be OK... Grin

Well, all the bearded d!ckheads go on about how haram it is to participate in elections.

One more example of the Islamic cognitive dissonance that shows just how completely at a loss they are when it comes to reconciling the 7th and 21st centuries.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: More Islamophobic attacks? Reply #632 - May 14^th, 2015 at 9:27pm Karnal wrote on May 14^th, 2015 at 4:38pm: Soren wrote on May 14^th, 2015 at 12:00pm: I don't remember it Ah. Nor do you.
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Reply #633 - May 15^th, 2015 at 11:17am

Soren wrote on May 14^th, 2015 at 9:26pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 13^th, 2015 at 5:31pm:

Soren wrote on May 13^th, 2015 at 3:35pm:

|dev|null wrote on May 12^th, 2015 at 5:21pm:

moses wrote on May 12^th, 2015 at 4:35pm:

I accept that muslims and their apologists are unable to explain how islam can be reformed.

By voting?

Haram.

Yet, within the Mosque it is used to determine governance issues and people Soren. Therefore, it must be OK... Grin

Well, all the bearded d!ckheads go on about how haram it is to participate in elections.

So, they are "bearded d!ckheads" who don't participate in Mosque business.

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One more example of the Islamic cognitive dissonance that shows just how completely at a loss they are when it comes to reconciling the 7th and 21st centuries.

Yet their Mosques function... Grin

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moses Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6353	Re: More Islamophobic attacks? Reply #634 - May 15^th, 2015 at 5:52pm mosques (around the globe) are functioning perfectly well as recruiting centres for muslim women, children, teenagers and men, to perform islamic terrorist activities.
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 42173	Re: More Islamophobic attacks? Reply #635 - May 15^th, 2015 at 6:34pm moses wrote on May 15^th, 2015 at 5:52pm: mosques (around the globe) are functioning perfectly well as recruiting centres for muslim women, children, teenagers and men, to perform islamic terrorist activities. Really? Or is it only a small number of Mosques? The ones run by radicals?
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96218 Gender:	Re: More Islamophobic attacks? Reply #636 - May 15^th, 2015 at 11:59pm Soren wrote on May 14^th, 2015 at 9:27pm: Karnal wrote on May 14^th, 2015 at 4:38pm: Soren wrote on May 14^th, 2015 at 12:00pm: I don't remember it Ah. Nor do you. Oh, old boy, I even told you how to.answer it. Porkie pies about porkie pies, eh? Only the old boy, effendes.
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Reply #637 - May 16^th, 2015 at 1:20pm

Brian Ross wrote Quote:

Really? Or is it only a small number of Mosques? The ones run by radicals?

Every mosque run by muslims who believe and preach: the fundamental islamic belief that muhammad was the last and final prophet of allah, after whom there can be no prophet.

A distinguished apostle in every aspect was none other than saidina muhammad. He was sent to the world as the last prophet, the final one, after whom no other prophet was to be sent again by allah. This is the reason why he was granted a shari'ah or the law that was perfect and final requiring no revision in the days to come.

For the teaching of the last prophet were to be everbinding, to remain unchanged to the end of time, he was sent as a acme of perfection with over-flowing guidance and resplendent light. There can be no revision of the qur'an.

Every single one of them is a hotbed of islamic terrorism recruitment.

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Reply #638 - May 16^th, 2015 at 1:27pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 15^th, 2015 at 6:34pm:

moses wrote on May 15^th, 2015 at 5:52pm:

mosques (around the globe) are functioning perfectly well as recruiting centres for muslim women, children, teenagers and men, to perform islamic terrorist activities.

Really? Or is it only a small number of Mosques? The ones run by radicals? Roll Eyes

Which ones are run by radicals, Brain?

And how can you tell?

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Reply #639 - May 16^th, 2015 at 2:38pm

Australian mosques are notoriously conservative and dull. They preach prayer. Troublemakers are not tolerated.

The real action happens in.small groups or cells, set up in people’s houses. "Recruitment" happens largely online, on hysterical discussion boards like this one. Radical Muslims in Australia are quite isolated. Many are new converts. The message they get from mosques is prayer, Quran reading and other boring stuff, and this frustrates them no end.

Many of the troublemakers and "terrorist suspects" caught in Australia had stopped attending mosques.

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Reply #641 - May 16^th, 2015 at 3:06pm

Karnal wrote on May 16^th, 2015 at 2:38pm:

Australian mosques are notoriously conservative and dull. They preach prayer. Troublemakers are not tolerated.

The real action happens in.small groups or cells, set up in people’s houses. "Recruitment" happens largely online, on hysterical discussion boards like this one. Radical Muslims in Australia are quite isolated. Many are new converts. The message they get from mosques is prayer, Quran reading and other boring stuff, and this frustrates them no end.

Many of the troublemakers and "terrorist suspects" caught in Australia had stopped attending mosques.

"Radical" Islam is a convenient myth for apologists and other excuse makers. If they believe Moh was the messenger of God, they are dangerous.

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Reply #642 - May 16^th, 2015 at 3:43pm

Really. Monis stopped attending his mosque after members of the Muslim community, including an imam, dobbed him in to the cops.

Imams and community leaders like Hilaly blame "Sheik Google" for good reason. Joining foreign battles and violent jihads is a very underground thing. It has to be. Those found guilty of facilitating such activities in Australia get custodial sentences.

David Hicks found no support for foreign jihad in Australian mosques back in the late 1990s. He was actively discouraged from going to Pakistan. Hicks said that the solution to all human affairs was prayer. It was not easy hooking up with the militant group he found in Pakistan, and this was not encouraged by any mosque or imam - far from it. He obtained these connections from people he hooked up with while travelling.

Mosques in Australia do not preach violent jihad. I doubt you’ll find such a message in too many foreign mosques either. Radical imams have their occasional gripe, but you rarely hear this in a mosque.

Mosques, the world over, are places for prayer, not sabre rattling. You’ll find few exceptions to this rule - ISIL is one. If you can think of any others I’d be pleased to hear about them.

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Reply #643 - May 16^th, 2015 at 3:45pm

issuevoter wrote on May 16^th, 2015 at 3:06pm:

Karnal wrote on May 16^th, 2015 at 2:38pm:

Australian mosques are notoriously conservative and dull. They preach prayer. Troublemakers are not tolerated.

The real action happens in.small groups or cells, set up in people’s houses. "Recruitment" happens largely online, on hysterical discussion boards like this one. Radical Muslims in Australia are quite isolated. Many are new converts. The message they get from mosques is prayer, Quran reading and other boring stuff, and this frustrates them no end.

Many of the troublemakers and "terrorist suspects" caught in Australia had stopped attending mosques.

"Radical" Islam is a convenient myth for apologists and other excuse makers. If they believe Moh was the messenger of God, they are dangerous.

Feel free to correct my thinking, Issue. I’m only repeating what I’ve heard and read. If you can show me otherwise, I’ll be forced to change my mind.

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Reply #644 - May 16^th, 2015 at 3:47pm

Karnal wrote on May 16^th, 2015 at 3:43pm:

Really. Monis stopped attending his mosque after members of the Muslim community, including an imam, dobbed him in to the cops.

Imams and community leaders like Hilaly blame "Sheik Google" for good reason. Joining foreign battles and violent jihads is a very underground thing. It has to be. Those found guilty of facilitating such activities in Australia get custodial sentences.

David Hicks found no support for foreign jihad in Australian mosques back in the late 1990s. He was actively discouraged from going to Pakistan. Hicks said that the solution to all human affairs was prayer. It was not easy hooking up with the militant group he found in Pakistan, and this was not encouraged by any mosque or imam - far from it. He obtained these connections from people he hooked up with while travelling.

Mosques in Australia do not preach violent jihad. I doubt you’ll find such a message in too many foreign mosques either. Radical imams have their occasional gripe, but you rarely hear this in a mosque.

Mosques, the world over, are places for prayer, not sabre rattling. You’ll find few exceptions to this rule - ISIL is one. If you can think of any others I’d be pleased to hear about them.

You are saying most of the jihadis busted in oz stopped going to a mosque. You've quoted Monis. That's one. What about all the others. They can attend a mosque and still be a radical. Prove your statement.

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