Brian Ross wrote on May 16
th, 2015 at 8:19pm:
double plus good wrote on May 16
th, 2015 at 3:47pm:
Karnal wrote on May 16
th, 2015 at 3:43pm:
Really. Monis stopped attending his mosque after members of the Muslim community, including an imam, dobbed him in to the cops.
Imams and community leaders like Hilaly blame "Sheik Google" for good reason. Joining foreign battles and violent jihads is a very underground thing. It has to be. Those found guilty of facilitating such activities in Australia get custodial sentences.
David Hicks found no support for foreign jihad in Australian mosques back in the late 1990s. He was actively discouraged from going to Pakistan. Hicks said that the solution to all human affairs was prayer. It was not easy hooking up with the militant group he found in Pakistan, and this was not encouraged by any mosque or imam - far from it. He obtained these connections from people he hooked up with while travelling.
Mosques in Australia do not preach violent jihad. I doubt you’ll find such a message in too many foreign mosques either. Radical imams have their occasional gripe, but you rarely hear this in a mosque.
Mosques, the world over, are places for prayer, not sabre rattling. You’ll find few exceptions to this rule - ISIL is one. If you can think of any others I’d be pleased to hear about them.
You are saying most of the jihadis busted in oz stopped going to a mosque. You've quoted Monis. That's one. What about all the others. They can attend a mosque and still be a radical. Prove your statement.
I think you'll find that Karnal is right about the mainstream Mosques. Its the smaller, self-created prayer-halls which the radicals tend to congregate at. The radicals want similar minded people around them and the mainstream Mosques aren't interested in conflict.
THREE terrorists had repaid the kindness of Australians with an evil plot to slaughter dozens of soldiers at an army base, a judge said yesterday.
Justice Betty King said the families of Saney Aweys, 28, and Nayev El Sayed, 27, had fled civil war in Somalia and Lebanon, while Libyan Wissam Fattal, 35, came to Australia to further his kickboxing career.
"The fact that Australia welcomed all of you, and nurtured you and your families, is something that should cause you all to hang your heads in shame that this was the way you planned to show your thanks for that support," the judge said.
"Your views about Australia and Australians, and your attitude towards the country's armed forces, its civilians, and its government, were clear. Your plans were evil."
Justice King jailed the three for 18 years, and set minimum terms of 13 1/2 years
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The judge said Fattal, Aweys and El Sayed were all unrepentant radical Muslims and would remain a threat to the public while they held extremist views. But of the three, only Fattal can be deported on his release from jail. His co-conspirators have Australian citizenship.
Justice King said the men had planned an armed attack on Sydney's Holsworthy army base by up to six men, who would shoot dead as many people as they could before they were killed.
She said they all had a connection to the Preston mosque, support for a Somalian terrorist group, and were driven by extremist Muslim views.
Preston Mosque is a mainstream mosque, is it not??
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