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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 42151	More Islamophobic attacks? Sep 20^th, 2014 at 11:03am A dedicated thread to post information about Islamophobic attacks. Today: Threatening note warning of further attacks found at scene of Melbourne house fire
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Adamant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1892 Brisbane	Re: More Islamophobic attacks? Reply #1 - Sep 20^th, 2014 at 11:06am Brian Ross wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 11:03am: A dedicated thread to post information about Islamophobic attacks. Today: Threatening note warning of further attacks found at scene of Melbourne house fire Another false flag op by muslims.
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 42151	Re: More Islamophobic attacks? Reply #2 - Sep 20^th, 2014 at 11:14am Adamant wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 11:06am: Another false flag op by muslims. No, you're not biased, are you, Adamant.
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Reply #3 - Sep 20^th, 2014 at 11:21am

This I feel needs repeating here. Why? Because it shows the personal effect Islamophobia has on innocent people.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 7:39am:

You have my utmost respect, Aqua.

I am not a Muslim, but my son has a Muslim name. He has no real Islamic influence and is very much your typical Aussie kid. I am telling you this because you spoke of fear for your daughters - I'm afraid for my son. We recently moved house and I am living with a constant dull dread of that look of surprised distaste that is becoming more common as we meet our neighbours and names are exchanged. It used to be rare, but it's pretty much the norm lately. I have seriously considered changing his name because he is starting to suffer some mild anxiety. Imagine the fear of a little girl with the scarf?

These are crappy times, but when people like you stop and reconsider and look for the humanity behind the distorted pictures we're shown, only good will come of it.

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Adamant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1892 Brisbane	Re: More Islamophobic attacks? Reply #4 - Sep 20^th, 2014 at 11:22am Brian Ross wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 11:14am: No, you're not biased, are you, Adamant. No, but you are dripping in it. How from that article can you tell who wrote the note. Only a racist a racist bigot like yourself would jump to a conclusion like that.
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Reply #5 - Sep 20^th, 2014 at 1:11pm

Adamant wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 11:22am:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 11:14am:

No, you're not biased, are you, Adamant.

No, but you are dripping in it. How from that article can you tell who wrote the note.

Really, how? Roll Eyes

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Only a racist a racist bigot like yourself would jump to a conclusion like that.

How is anything I wrote "racist", Adamant? Wasn't it you who made the point that Muslim "isn't a race"? "Australian" and "Christian" aren't, either, the last time I checked. Roll Eyes

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 42151	Re: More Islamophobic attacks? Reply #6 - Sep 20^th, 2014 at 1:14pm Ban the burka photo shared by PUP senator Jacqui Lambie is of Afghan policewoman killed by Taliban...
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Reply #7 - Sep 20^th, 2014 at 1:21pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 1:11pm:

Adamant wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 11:22am:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 11:14am:

No, you're not biased, are you, Adamant.

No, but you are dripping in it. How from that article can you tell who wrote the note.

Really, how? Roll Eyes

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Only a racist a racist bigot like yourself would jump to a conclusion like that.

How is anything I wrote "racist", Adamant. Wasn't it you who made the point that Muslim "isn't a race"? "Australian" and "Christian" aren't, either, the last time I checked. Roll Eyes

That has to be a classic, brain questioning the use of the word racist. Grin

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Reply #8 - Sep 20^th, 2014 at 1:39pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 1:14pm:

Ban the burka photo shared by PUP senator Jacqui Lambie is of Afghan policewoman killed by Taliban... Roll Eyes

The photographer herself said that the picture was taken to show that even though it was a policewoman, she still had to wear the burqa when she left the police station.
Bernardi says the burqa is an oppressive garment, designed by men and is alien to Australia. This is stating the bleeding obvious.
Shorten then defends women's 'right' to wear the burqa - even though the policewoman's example demonstrates that women have to wear it even when they are armed officers of the law, rather than choose to wear it.

All this faux outrage seems to me a craven pandering to the sensibilities of the men who expect their women to be fully covered up. Why do we owe respect to such men?

I think it is not for the law to regulate everything. But I think it is perfectly OK to exert moral and community pressure on niqabi and burqa wearing community to chuck these anachronistic symbols in the bin. You can dress perfectly modestly in Australia without needing to resort to some oppressive, atavistic Arabian honour code.

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Reply #9 - Sep 20^th, 2014 at 2:47pm

Soren wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 1:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 11:03am:

A dedicated thread to post information about Islamophobic attacks.

Today:

Threatening note warning of further attacks found at scene of Melbourne house fire

The photographer herself said that the picture was taken to show that even though it was a policewoman, she still had to wear the burqa when she left the police station.
Bernardi says the burqa is an oppressive garment, designed by men and is alien to Australia. This is stating the bleeding obvious.
Shorten then defends women's 'right' to wear the burqa - even though the policewoman's example demonstrates that women have to wear it even when they are armed officers of the law, rather than choose to wear it.

All this faux outrage seems to me a craven pandering to the sensibilities of the men who expect their women to be fully covered up. Why do we owe respect to such men?

I think it is not for the law to regulate everything. But I think it is perfectly OK to exert moral and community pressure on niqabi and burqa wearing community to chuck these anachronistic symbols in the bin. You can dress perfectly modestly in Australia without needing to resort to some oppressive, atavistic Arabian honour code.

I think you're replying to the wrong post or are you even in the wrong thread, Soren? Roll Eyes

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Reply #11 - Sep 20^th, 2014 at 3:46pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 11:21am:

This I feel needs repeating here. Why? Because it shows the personal effect Islamophobia has on innocent people.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 7:39am:

You have my utmost respect, Aqua.

I am not a Muslim, but my son has a Muslim name. He has no real Islamic influence and is very much your typical Aussie kid. I am telling you this because you spoke of fear for your daughters - I'm afraid for my son. We recently moved house and I am living with a constant dull dread of that look of surprised distaste that is becoming more common as we meet our neighbours and names are exchanged. It used to be rare, but it's pretty much the norm lately. I have seriously considered changing his name because he is starting to suffer some mild anxiety. Imagine the fear of a little girl with the scarf?

These are crappy times, but when people like you stop and reconsider and look for the humanity behind the distorted pictures we're shown, only good will come of it.

when islamics stop beheading infidels things might change.
when islamics stop trying to impose their laws over ours things might change.
when islamics assimilate things might change.

it is up to islam.
islam has decided, so has Australia.

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Reply #12 - Sep 20^th, 2014 at 3:48pm

Soren wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 1:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 1:14pm:

Ban the burka photo shared by PUP senator Jacqui Lambie is of Afghan policewoman killed by Taliban... Roll Eyes

The photographer herself said that the picture was taken to show that even though it was a policewoman, she still had to wear the burqa when she left the police station.
Bernardi says the burqa is an oppressive garment, designed by men and is alien to Australia. This is stating the bleeding obvious.
Shorten then defends women's 'right' to wear the burqa - even though the policewoman's example demonstrates that women have to wear it even when they are armed officers of the law, rather than choose to wear it.

All this faux outrage seems to me a craven pandering to the sensibilities of the men who expect their women to be fully covered up. Why do we owe respect to such men?

I think it is not for the law to regulate everything. But I think it is perfectly OK to exert moral and community pressure on niqabi and burqa wearing community to chuck these anachronistic symbols in the bin. You can dress perfectly modestly in Australia without needing to resort to some oppressive, atavistic Arabian honour code.

Yet the fallacies and ignorance of these views have been refuted by Annie, now haven't they, Soren? Roll Eyes

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 42151	Re: More Islamophobic attacks? Reply #13 - Sep 20^th, 2014 at 5:49pm Heated clashes at mosque protest at Maroochydore
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Reply #14 - Sep 20^th, 2014 at 6:43pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 3:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 11:21am:

This I feel needs repeating here. Why? Because it shows the personal effect Islamophobia has on innocent people.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Sep 20^th, 2014 at 7:39am:

You have my utmost respect, Aqua.

I am not a Muslim, but my son has a Muslim name. He has no real Islamic influence and is very much your typical Aussie kid. I am telling you this because you spoke of fear for your daughters - I'm afraid for my son. We recently moved house and I am living with a constant dull dread of that look of surprised distaste that is becoming more common as we meet our neighbours and names are exchanged. It used to be rare, but it's pretty much the norm lately. I have seriously considered changing his name because he is starting to suffer some mild anxiety. Imagine the fear of a little girl with the scarf?

These are crappy times, but when people like you stop and reconsider and look for the humanity behind the distorted pictures we're shown, only good will come of it.

when islamics stop beheading infidels things might change.
when islamics stop trying to impose their laws over ours things might change.
when islamics assimilate things might change.

it is up to islam.
islam has decided, so has Australia.

what did australia decide?

Do vandalise mosques, cars and threaten to attack muslims in australia?

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