longweekend58 wrote on Sep 20
th, 2014 at 11:29pm:
You'd think condemning IS for beheading innocent people and committing genocide would be pretty easy and a lay down misere for well. everyone. But no. there are quite a number of people in these very forums whose condemnation for these acts simply doesn't exist. Of course a few are insane like wharfy, but the rest supposedly live outside the padded room and have no such excuse.
Of course any normal person would condemn ISIS and the beheadings, but there isn't much we can do about it. How the hell is dropping bombs on them going to help? They're spread out and under cover. For every ISIS member killed, 3 innocent people will be taken out as well by our bombs as is always the case.
We weren't particularly happy about the Japanese beheading our diggers either, but now apparently we've forgiven them. Our primeminister tells us that they're our friends, so we'll be sharing military exercises with them and buying their submarines. Do you think that's OK?
In another few decades we'll probably accept and embrace ISIL too especially if they have something we want.
Quote:we have Buzz, Pansi, George, greens-lose and a handful of others who have refused to criticise such things. REFUSED. and you have to ask why.
But let there be some graffiti on mosque and suddenly out they come all vengeful and outraged. the Buzzard even compared a few bits of graffiti to the Crystal Night of the 1930s in Nazi Germany.
We're friends with the Germans too. Don't worry too much about the Australian Muslims having a voice. While the Conservatives are in power, they'll ensure that our Muslims become a shunned minority.
Quote:And when there are arrests including one person planning a multiple abduction and beheading, where is the condemnation? again conspicuously absent from the above.
The problem is quite a few of us don't believe much of anything this government tells us. Were these boys just talking tough like boys do, or was there a real terrorist plot? Of course we have to take action to ensure terrorism doesn't get a foothold here, but we'll never know how much propaganda is in the mix. In the meantime this revamped war on terrorism is going to incite even more hate.
Quote:but there are a handful whose 'condemnation' is no more than a few lame words barely rising to the level of disappointment of a late mail delivery at best.
peccerhead, aussie, DNA and a few others.
So what is it with you people? I know some of you actually believe it is all fake,. there is no IS, there is no local terrorist threat. For you I wish you all deep and rapid therapy. but what is the excuse for the rest of you? stupid, ignorant, brain dead. No, the reason is far worse than that. far far worse
you all hate tony abbott. not ONE apologist or ignorer for terrorism is a Liberal. Not one. Not all labor supporters are so ignorant, but a lot are. I find it inconceivable that anyone could let their political biases go so far deep into their psyche that of affects their ability to think, to respond or even to emote. you just hate abbott and that is all there is and all there will ever be for you. Deep, consuming hate. If it is a liberal policy then you must oppose it - even if it is a policy you would otherwise support.
This is true - there is a lot of dislike out there for Abbott - not dissimilar to the dislike you lot had for Gillard. Abbott hasn't stopped lying since he took office.
Quote:But Abbott-hate is so insidious it leads some of you to either deny the existence of terrorism and construct all manner of fanciful conspiracy scenarios to explain it or worse, to support it.
But would you denounce terrorism in clear unequivocal words? NOT A CHANCE. abbott hate gets in the way.
I denounce terrorism as any peace loving person would, but ISIL is not the only terrorist group on this planet. What are we doing about the others?
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