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Reply #30 - Sep 30th, 2014 at 12:25am
 

Mainstream Assembly of Muslim Jurists of America Condones Stoning Adulterers, and Sharia Supremacism

With regard to the Sharia, specifically, AMJA’s stated purpose is to “clarify the rulings of the sharia which are relevant for those who live in America.” AMJA is well-accepted by the mainstream American Muslim community.  
The Islamic scholars affiliated with this group maintain influential positions in universities, Islamic centers, and mosques throughout the United States. Notwithstanding this mainstream acceptance, includinguncritical endorsement of its annual American conferences to train American imams, AMJA openly sanctions the stoning to death of adulterers, albeit with the “caveat” that the adultery involves intercourse.
AMJA has also issued rulings which sanction the killing of apostates (here), “blasphemers” (including non-Muslims guilty of this “crime”; here), and condone marital rape. Even more ominously, another Arabic-language fatwa from AMJA’s Dr. Salah Al-Sawy leaves open the possibility for offensive jihad against America and the West, as soon as Muslims are strong enough to do so. When asked whether “the Islamic missionary effort in the West … [was] to the point where it could take advantage of offensive jihad,” Al-Sawy ruled:

The Islamic community does not possess the strength to engage in offensive jihad at this time. With our current capabilities, we are aspiring toward defensive jihad, and to improve our position with regards to jurisprudence at this stage. But there is a different discussion for each situation. Allah Almighty knows best.

http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/2014/09/27/like-ok-beheader-mainstream-assembly...

Tell your daughter, Brain: stoning for adultery is mainstream Islam. Don’t let her sleepwalk, like you, into a future she doesn’t want.






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Reply #31 - Sep 30th, 2014 at 12:42am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 12:13am:
As I've said, they feel alienated and radical Islam preys on them, Soren.  You and your ilk reject them, their parents reject them, they look for acceptance and they find it in radical Islam's ranks.

Poor lambs. People don’accept that they want to express theirmselves through jihad and sharia. Cruel world.

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Out of a matter of interest, were you ever a Boy Scout, Soren?  A member of the School Cadets?  Served in uniform anywhere?  Ever felt the experience of esprit de corps?  Some people put on uniforms.  Some people join church groups.  Its not unusual.

So jihad is like the Scouts or Sunday School.
You are out of your mind.
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Reply #32 - Sep 30th, 2014 at 12:45am
 
Soren wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 12:42am:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 12:13am:
As I've said, they feel alienated and radical Islam preys on them, Soren.  You and your ilk reject them, their parents reject them, they look for acceptance and they find it in radical Islam's ranks.

Poor lambs. People don’accept that they want to express theirmselves through jihad and sharia. Cruel world.

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Out of a matter of interest, were you ever a Boy Scout, Soren?  A member of the School Cadets?  Served in uniform anywhere?  Ever felt the experience of esprit de corps?  Some people put on uniforms.  Some people join church groups.  Its not unusual.

So jihad is like the Scouts or Sunday School.
You are out of your mind.


Sunday School, was it?

University of Balogney, eh?
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Reply #33 - Sep 30th, 2014 at 12:47am
 
Soren wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 12:42am:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 12:13am:
As I've said, they feel alienated and radical Islam preys on them, Soren.  You and your ilk reject them, their parents reject them, they look for acceptance and they find it in radical Islam's ranks.

Poor lambs. People don’accept that they want to express theirmselves through jihad and sharia. Cruel world.


You're not really a Psychiatrist are you, Soren?  I hope you're not, with attitudes like yours.   Roll Eyes

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Out of a matter of interest, were you ever a Boy Scout, Soren?  A member of the School Cadets?  Served in uniform anywhere?  Ever felt the experience of esprit de corps?  Some people put on uniforms.  Some people join church groups.  Its not unusual.

So jihad is like the Scouts or Sunday School.


No.  You really are being stupid if you draw that conclusion from what I've said, Soren.

You've never really felt you belonged, to anything, have you?  Never been a part of a group which gives a feeling of belonging?  Do even your Islamophobe pals reject you?   Roll Eyes

Is this why you attack Muslims?  Because of their exclusivity?  That they belong to a community you can't be a part of?

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You are out of your mind.


No, but it increasingly appears you are!   Roll Eyes
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Reply #34 - Sep 30th, 2014 at 12:57am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 12:47am:
Soren wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 12:42am:
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 12:13am:
As I've said, they feel alienated and radical Islam preys on them, Soren.  You and your ilk reject them, their parents reject them, they look for acceptance and they find it in radical Islam's ranks.

Poor lambs. People don’accept that they want to express theirmselves through jihad and sharia. Cruel world.


You're not really a Psychiatrist are you, Soren?  I hope you're not, with attitudes like yours.   Roll Eyes

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Out of a matter of interest, were you ever a Boy Scout, Soren?  A member of the School Cadets?  Served in uniform anywhere?  Ever felt the experience of esprit de corps?  Some people put on uniforms.  Some people join church groups.  Its not unusual.

So jihad is like the Scouts or Sunday School.


No.  You really are being stupid if you draw that conclusion from what I've said, Soren.

You've never really felt you belonged, to anything, have you?  Never been a part of a group which gives a feeling of belonging?  Do even your Islamophobe pals reject you?   Roll Eyes

Is this why you attack Muslims?  Because of their exclusivity?  That they belong to a community you can't be a part of?

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You are out of your mind.


No, but it increasingly appears you are!   Roll Eyes

I draw conclusions from the endless silly innuendos in your questions. You put these stupid questions and talk in inept analogies like being a radicalised muslim is like being a scout or belonging to a church group like sunday school because you have no coherent, evidence-based refutation for anything. You compare current Islamic practices and ideas to what the West abandoned centuries ago. That is just desperate.
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Reply #35 - Sep 30th, 2014 at 4:30am
 
Any discussion on the problems of Islam in  Australia MUST centre around south-western Syxney as it has Australia's largest concentration of Muslims. Lack of assimilation, crime, implementation of Sharia, terror threats, language barriers; it's all there.
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Reply #36 - Oct 5th, 2014 at 6:51am
 
Muslim victimhood is a myth cultivated by some muslims and by progressives.

On Tuesday, The Age published an opinion piece by Race Discrimination Commissioner Tim Soutphommasane that was essentially a fudge. He began by conceding that “all of us are rightly disturbed by the prospect of terrorist acts on Australian soil; counter-terror raids in Sydney and Brisbane, and the shooting of teenager Numan Haider in Melbourne, have highlighted community concern”.Soutphommasane’s reference to the shooting of Haider by Victorian Police failed to mention the evidence that the deceased had wounded and attempted to murder two counter-terrorist policemen.

The Race Discrimination Commissioner also declined to remind The Age readers that Haider’s family had migrated from Afghanistan to ­settle in Australia and that he obtained a good ­education, had a job and a car, and lived in a fine house. Haider was no victim.Soutphommasane went on to argue that “Muslim Australians are entitled to a fair go”. This suggests that they do not get a fair go already. It’s another way of saying that Muslim Australians are victims.

.This led to writer Gabrielle Lord contacting the Australian Human Rights Commission to express her disappointment with the Race Discrimination Commissioner’s comments, which she interpreted as “largely a reprimand to the non-Muslims of Australia”.  Lord’s position is that “rather than chiding non-Muslims for their suspicions, fears (and on occasions bigotry), a Race Relations Commissioner would surely be better advised to address those Muslims in our community who bear a lethal hatred and contempt towards all of us non-Muslims and tell them this will not be tolerated”. 



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Reply #37 - Oct 5th, 2014 at 8:42pm
 
mrkamikaze wrote on Sep 30th, 2014 at 4:30am:
Any discussion on the problems of Islam in  Australia MUST centre around south-western Syxney as it has Australia's largest concentration of Muslims. Lack of assimilation, crime, implementation of Sharia, terror threats, language barriers; it's all there.


And that those points aren't necessarily true about Muslim populations in other regions of Australia.   Isn't that interesting?    Gee, could it be other factors, other than Islam which drive them?    Roll Eyes
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Reply #38 - Oct 5th, 2014 at 9:25pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 5th, 2014 at 8:42pm:
Gee, could it other factors, other than Islam which drive them?


Most certainly.

We can start by not pandering to a minority group of would be killers!

We can ban any of them forming in the street shouting KILL THOSE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE IN A PEADOPHILE PROPHET! Jail all the bastards that do. That's men women and children. If we are able ( not born here ) deport them instead.

We can ask them why don't you wish to assimilate! If they don't want to...........

We offer a one way ticket to ISIS man women and child!!!!!!!!!!
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Reply #39 - Oct 6th, 2014 at 12:09am
 
Adamant wrote on Oct 5th, 2014 at 9:25pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 5th, 2014 at 8:42pm:
Gee, could it other factors, other than Islam which drive them?


Most certainly.

We can start by not pandering to a minority group of would be killers!

We can ban any of them forming in the street shouting KILL THOSE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE IN A PEADOPHILE PROPHET! Jail all the bastards that do. That's men women and children. If we are able ( not born here ) deport them instead.

We can ask them why don't you wish to assimilate! If they don't want to...........

We offer a one way ticket to ISIS man women and child!!!!!!!!!!


By all means, Adamant, charge them with incitement to violence.  However, that charge isn't usually considered serious enough to warrant deportation, as much as you might desire it.  I am glad though, that you recognise you cannot deport Australian citizens.  It shows some of my message is finally sinking in.   

Of course, your incitement of Muslims with your deliberate insults to their religious beliefs causing them offence can also be charged under Section 18c of the Commonwealth Racial Discrimination Act.  However, I'm sure you're aware that, though, aren't you?   Roll Eyes


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Reply #40 - Oct 6th, 2014 at 7:55pm
 
Of course muslims don't insult anyone else with the teachings of pure hate espoused by islam, allah, muhammad and the qur'an, do they?

It beggars belief how muslims are such a backward, inbred, illiterate bunch of psychopathic homicidal maniacs, if their cult, god, prophet and holy writings, are the epitome of spiritual enlightenment, as muslims and their apologists keep telling us.
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